Why does everyone on SW hate FF13

Its beautiful, fun and while linear for the first few hours you eventually get side quests. Its not any less of a rpg then any other.

Whats so bad about not being able to go back to old lvs that would serve no purpose gameplay wise and would just ruin the story.

Is this not the best techno trance remix of gaming music youve ever heard

Its beautiful, fun and while linear for the first few hours you eventually get side quests. Its not any less of a rpg then any other.

Whats so bad about not being able to go back to old lvs that would serve no purpose gameplay wise and would just ruin the story.

Is this not the best techno trance remix of gaming music youve ever heard

Respawn-d

Because it wasn't very good, But that's just my opinion of it. I'm glad some people are enjoying it. At around the 15 hour mark, it became a chore for me.

Because it wasn't very good, But that's just my opinion of it. I'm glad some people are enjoying it. At around the 15 hour mark, it became a chore for me.

heretrix

Yeah so did Mass a Bore for me Opinion huh good aint it. Dosent change the fact both are great games just some are not to our liking. Just gotta ignore the haters and look for the more level headed posters who give good reasons why they dislike a game.

Well you see, the thing is we must first ask ourselves is, does it have da foilage?siLVURcross

I lol'd.

The hate comes from the changes and the fact its multiplat.

Not everyone on SW hates it. I enjoyed it a lot overall. It did not meet my expectations however, but still a great game imo.

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Because it wasn't very good, But that's just my opinion of it. I'm glad some people are enjoying it. At around the 15 hour mark, it became a chore for me.

jwsoul

Yeah so did Mass a Bore for me Opinion huh good aint it. Dosent change the fact both are great games just some are not to our liking. Just gotta ignore the haters and look for the more level headed posters who give good reasons why they dislike a game.

I said it was my opinion that I couldn't get into it, I wasn't bashing the game. I meant it wasn't very good for me.Don't let it bother you dude. I'm pretty much as levelheaded as you can get here.

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Because it wasn't very good, But that's just my opinion of it. I'm glad some people are enjoying it. At around the 15 hour mark, it became a chore for me.

heretrix

Yeah so did Mass a Bore for me Opinion huh good aint it. Dosent change the fact both are great games just some are not to our liking. Just gotta ignore the haters and look for the more level headed posters who give good reasons why they dislike a game.

I said it was my opinion that I couldn't get into it, I wasn't bashing the game. I meant it wasn't very good for me.Don't let it bother you dude. I'm pretty much as levelheaded as you can get here.

Its beautiful, fun and while linear for the first few hours you eventually get side quests. Its not any less of a rpg then any other.

Whats so bad about not being able to go back to old lvs that would serve no purpose gameplay wise and would just ruin the story.

Is this not the best techno trance remix of gaming music youve ever heard

Respawn-d

Because

1. Was worst that FF12, an already huge disaster for FF back then

2. Proves that all and any talent of Square moved to Mistwaker, since FF10 was their last great game and real FF

3. Lost Odyssey is a 100x better JRPG and game

4. The game is not just linear, has no NPC's, no towns never feels like a RPG in the slightest, and also is exremely tedious to go through, i hated the cutscenes to proportions i never though possible, was like watching the worst thing in my life on screen actually, was that cheesy

5. The game had nothing good aside the combat system, which wihtout anything else feels like a forced action title with some upgrades and bosses frankly were nothing like older titles

In short, FF12 was one of the worst games i have ever played with releative ease (bland, generic and plyed itself ) and FF13 is 10 times worst, imagine that

If you call FF13 RPG, then any game can be called RPG times 1000

Games like Demon Soul, Fable 2, Mass Effect 1-2 make FF13 look redicoulous, one indifferent and totally mediocre title, without anything noteworthy really

The first 30 hours of FFXIII- push up on the analog stick to progress and battle a group of enemies. DO THIS ANOTHER THIRTY THOUSAND TIMES.

I have made it to chapter 11 now so it's a welcome change of pace.At leastthere's a lot of experimenting to be done with the battle system, it saves the first half of the game.

I don't hate it. I actually really like it. The art design and environments were gorgeous as was much of the music, I enjoyed the story and liked the characters (especially Fang and Lightning), I thought the battle system was the best I've ever encountered in a JRPG and a step forward, I thought the presentation was top notch. I even liked the majority of the voice work.

That being said, I must admit that there definitely some extremely underwhelming aspects of the game. The game needed WAY more exploration and more variety to break up the combat (it felt like fight after fight, then a cutscene, then more fighting, then a cutscene...). It does not need to be non-linear, but it felt too single-minded for its own good. Also, I feel the pacing really takes a hit once you arrive at Gran Pulse. People kept saying that this was the best section of the game, so I was expecting alot, and when I finally got there, I found that the more linear parts of the game had WAY stronger pacing and the story is much more interesting during those parts.

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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]

Yeah so did Mass a Bore for me Opinion huh good aint it. Dosent change the fact both are great games just some are not to our liking. Just gotta ignore the haters and look for the more level headed posters who give good reasons why they dislike a game.

jwsoul

I said it was my opinion that I couldn't get into it, I wasn't bashing the game. I meant it wasn't very good for me.Don't let it bother you dude. I'm pretty much as levelheaded as you can get here.

They put too much effort into the graphics, not enough into the gameplay imo. Why couldn't they keep to the old turn based system they've used the other 12? With FF games,you either love them or hate them why would they feel the need to change that after so long?

Its a good game, people are bieng stupid about it because its gone multi. Big whoop. Nonetheless great game. Nuff' said.killa4lyfe

It is easilly one of the worst games i have ever played

You see i play the best games, not every crap that comes out, so i dont compare it to the worst, but to the best and comparing to that is pure crap for me

I only bought it because i never though FF could go so wrong, but i should have known with FF12 huge fiasco

Now i will never, ever buy a Square game ever again, Mistwalker is my new Square

lol I found the game overly hard ;3 easy at first then BAM stuck....I doubt I will ever beat the game lol. ;3 I don't think the other FF's were that hard.. Besides that there wasn't anything wrong with traditional turn base they didn't havet to revamp anything...

[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Its a good game, people are bieng stupid about it because its gone multi. Big whoop. Nonetheless great game. Nuff' said.theseekar

It is easilly one of the worst games i have ever played

You see i play the best games, not every crap that comes out, so i dont compare it to the worst, but to the best and comparing to that is pure crap for me

I only bought it because i never though FF could go so wrong, but i should have known with FF12 huge fiasco

Now i will never, ever buy a Square game ever again, Mistwalker is my new Square

Is that why you said one of your most anticipated games is Two Worlds 2? :roll:

This is game design!

The guys behind FFXIII took a central theme of "moving forward" and implemented it into every faucet of its design. From the linear dungeons, you had to go forward, to the summoned beast, they arrived when you "lost your way," Never have I seen a game that was so consistent with its storytelling, characters and theme.

Although FFXIII didn't have some of the lore and characteristics of genre that they themselves created, I can't help but admire it's genius design.

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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]Its a good game, people are bieng stupid about it because its gone multi. Big whoop. Nonetheless great game. Nuff' said.GreySeal9

It is easilly one of the worst games i have ever played

You see i play the best games, not every crap that comes out, so i dont compare it to the worst, but to the best and comparing to that is pure crap for me

I only bought it because i never though FF could go so wrong, but i should have known with FF12 huge fiasco

Now i will never, ever buy a Square game ever again, Mistwalker is my new Square

Is that why you said one of your most anticipated games is Two Worlds 2? :roll:

Yes, that is one of the best 2010 titles by far, it is Oblivion times 10

GameSpot Score
7.5 good

Two Worlds
The GoodHuge scope and setting
Smooth, simple RPG system that still allows for a lot of character customization
Great variety of quests
Nice-looking visuals

Of course TW2 is a 100x better looking and playing game

No Over World.

Its beautiful, fun and while linear for the first few hours you eventually get side quests. Its not any less of a rpg then any other.

Whats so bad about not being able to go back to old lvs that would serve no purpose gameplay wise and would just ruin the story.

Is this not the best techno trance remix of gaming music youve ever heard

Respawn-d

I agree, its one of my favourite games this gen.

FFXII was different aswell and it got a monumental amount of hate online, but to me it was a fantastic game.

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It is easilly one of the worst games i have ever played

You see i play the best games, not every crap that comes out, so i dont compare it to the worst, but to the best and comparing to that is pure crap for me

I only bought it because i never though FF could go so wrong, but i should have known with FF12 huge fiasco

Now i will never, ever buy a Square game ever again, Mistwalker is my new Square

theseekar

Is that why you said one of your most anticipated games is Two Worlds 2? :roll:

Yes, that is one of the best 2010 titles by far, it is Oblivion times 10

GameSpot Score
7.5 good

Two Worlds
The GoodHuge scope and setting
Smooth, simple RPG system that still allows for a lot of character customization
Great variety of quests
Nice-looking visuals

Of course TW2 is a 100x better looking and playing game

How the hell do you know this? You haven't played it.

Seriously, it's fine that you're interested it it and it's possible (though unlikely that it will surprise people). But your smug attitude about only playing the best is pretty ridiculous when you're hyping the sequel of a game that is generally regarded as mediocre.

I have been a fan of the series since the first. FFXIII may have killed the whole series for me... I am no longer anticipating final fantasy games now. Thats how bad it was. The game design was horrible, i dont think there was any sort of plan when making this game. Changing weapons was useless.... you control one person in battle.... when I say control, I mean press the "autobattle" button cuz inputing your own commands is useless. The story is horrible, the characters shallow, the music forgettable, exploration non-existent, character building is linier, the world is not at all immersive.... I could go on.

I started playing ff8 now, and though that game was a disappointment back when it came out, it is 9999x better then ff13.

I like it so far its just collecting dust right now though i stopped playing around 20 hours in. Its not a bad game i just dont care to complete it atm. But so far i feel LO is 100 times better story wise.bigboss5ak

Well, LO has towns and NPCs too, and is a real RPG, not some random actino title Square decided to make, probably for casuals

I have been a fan of the series since the first. FFXIII may have killed the whole series for me... I am no longer anticipating final fantasy games now. Thats how bad it was. The game design was horrible, i dont think there was any sort of plan when making this game. Changing weapons was useless.... you control one person in battle.... when I say control, I mean press the "autobattle" button cuz inputing your own commands is useless. The story is horrible, the characters shallow, the music forgettable, exploration non-existent, character building is linier, the world is not at all immersive.... I could go on.

I started playing ff8 now, and though that game was a disappointment back when it came out, it is 9999x better then ff13.

AntiType

Well, all Square talent was goen when Mistwalker was formed, because after FF10 their games go from bad to worst

FF13vs could well be the worst game of all time, at best will be another medocre to terrible Square crapy action game

Square Enix is Public Enemy #1.

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I have been a fan of the series since the first. FFXIII may have killed the whole series for me... I am no longer anticipating final fantasy games now. Thats how bad it was. The game design was horrible, i dont think there was any sort of plan when making this game. Changing weapons was useless.... you control one person in battle.... when I say control, I mean press the "autobattle" button cuz inputing your own commands is useless. The story is horrible, the characters shallow, the music forgettable, exploration non-existent, character building is linier, the world is not at all immersive.... I could go on.

I started playing ff8 now, and though that game was a disappointment back when it came out, it is 9999x better then ff13.

theseekar

Well, all Square talent was goen when Mistwalker was formed, because after FF10 their games go from bad to worst

FF13vs could well be the worst game of all time, at best will be another medocre to terrible Square crapy action game

While I really didn't like FF13 either (just a bad game), Mistwalker has yet to produce a single good game either.

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[QUOTE="AntiType"]

I have been a fan of the series since the first. FFXIII may have killed the whole series for me... I am no longer anticipating final fantasy games now. Thats how bad it was. The game design was horrible, i dont think there was any sort of plan when making this game. Changing weapons was useless.... you control one person in battle.... when I say control, I mean press the "autobattle" button cuz inputing your own commands is useless. The story is horrible, the characters shallow, the music forgettable, exploration non-existent, character building is linier, the world is not at all immersive.... I could go on.

I started playing ff8 now, and though that game was a disappointment back when it came out, it is 9999x better then ff13.

goblaa

Well, all Square talent was goen when Mistwalker was formed, because after FF10 their games go from bad to worst

FF13vs could well be the worst game of all time, at best will be another medocre to terrible Square crapy action game

While I really didn't like FF13 either (just a bad game), Mistwalker has yet to produce a single good game either.

I have high hopes for monolithsoft

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

I have been a fan of the series since the first. FFXIII may have killed the whole series for me... I am no longer anticipating final fantasy games now. Thats how bad it was. The game design was horrible, i dont think there was any sort of plan when making this game. Changing weapons was useless.... you control one person in battle.... when I say control, I mean press the "autobattle" button cuz inputing your own commands is useless. The story is horrible, the characters shallow, the music forgettable, exploration non-existent, character building is linier, the world is not at all immersive.... I could go on.

I started playing ff8 now, and though that game was a disappointment back when it came out, it is 9999x better then ff13.

theseekar

Well, all Square talent was goen when Mistwalker was formed, because after FF10 their games go from bad to worst

FF13vs could well be the worst game of all time, at best will be another medocre to terrible Square crapy action game

I liked the game alot and I thought it was amazing but I understand if some people didn't like the first half of it being closed and getting bored, the game never opens up till chapter 10 or 11, lacking towns and mini games, that's legitimate criticism.

Great game. It does get some unnecessary hate from people, but the majority of people on System Wars seem more unimpressed rather than just hate it.

Great game. It does get some unnecessary hate from people, but the majority of people on System Wars seem more unimpressed rather than just hate it.

lundy86_4

Well, it gets hat because i actually bought this crap, even though i hated FF12, thinking that the other team making was the FF10 one

Seems Mistwalker took any talent of Square with them, so their games are pure crap now, that is all

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Great game. It does get some unnecessary hate from people, but the majority of people on System Wars seem more unimpressed rather than just hate it.

theseekar

Well, it gets hat because i actually bought this crap, even though i hated FF12, thinking that the other team making was the FF10 one

Seems Mistwalker took any talent of Square with them, so their games are pure crap now, that is all

You think it's crap? So why do I care exactly?

It has some downfalls, such as the bad pacing and linearity (though the linearity isn;t that awful), but it has an interesting cast of characters, great lore and an interesting story.

Mistwalker produced Lost Odyssey, which is quite a good game with reasonable reviews, but also has some downfalls. Some of them being a dated battle system and a poor and uninteresting antagonist. It was also received poorer than FFXIII by critics.

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Because it wasn't very good, But that's just my opinion of it. I'm glad some people are enjoying it. At around the 15 hour mark, it became a chore for me.

Yeah so did Mass a Bore for me Opinion huh good aint it. Dosent change the fact both are great games just some are not to our liking. Just gotta ignore the haters and look for the more level headed posters who give good reasons why they dislike a game.

I said it was my opinion that I couldn't get into it, I wasn't bashing the game. I meant it wasn't very good for me.Don't let it bother you dude. I'm pretty much as levelheaded as you can get here.

I didn't find FFXIII to be that good of a game. (only FF title I've played that I didn't finish)