Why does everything need to be remade this gen?

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#1 Icrackurnuts
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Personally I don’t mind remakes but not every game needs it and I think there getting way out of hand right now

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#2 Pedro
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No idea, especially when some folks believe in generations.🤭

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#3  Edited By Icrackurnuts
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@Pedro: ??

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#4 mrbojangles25
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I mean, some of these remakes are pretty sweet though. System Shock was great. Half-Life: Black Mesa was incredible.

Now, if you're talking about remasters, yes, I agree; those are kind of lame, for a variety of reasons.

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#5 SolidGame_basic
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I mean there’s thousands and thousands of games that have not been remade lol

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#6 Last_Lap
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You need to ask Sony that question as they're the worst offenders.

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#7 R4gn4r0k
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I refuse to answer until you remade this thread.

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#8 Warm_Gun
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Because players are a shallow species. Film enthusiasts rightfully disregard remakes, for the most part. Also because games are too expensive to make and publishers are so afraid of failure. Easier to go back to old financially proven games.

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#9  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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#10  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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I'm gonna give you the default answer. Game development on new IPs takes way too long than it was for last-gen and most of all, new IP games requires taking risks. There's a reason why you see more remasters and remakes, they are just fillers for current-gen.

Look, I'm all in for remasters and remakes that can't be played outside of emulation. PC port of the original Silent Hill 2 can barely runs on modern PCs without serious modding tweaking as an example. Remasters and Remakes aren't the problem, it's a problem when a game really needs it the most than others. I would rather see Guerilla Games remaster Killzone Trilogy instead of Horizon: Zero Dawn and Sony Bend remaster The Getaway instead of Days Gone. Where's my Infamous remasters games Sony? PS4 games that run at 60fps on PS5 through backwards compatibility don't need remasters...especially if they are already beautiful to begin with.

MS barely remasters/remake anything, but I still want Halo: CE to get the remake treatment as it's really hard to go back and play it after playing Halo: Infinite. Again, I will always accept a good remake of an old game, where a remake actually matters, such as Dead Space Remake is a good example. Another example of a good decision remake in the last few years is Resident Evil 2 & 4 remakes. They really needed it. Even Soul Reaver games needed the remasters just to be playable by today's standard.

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#11 lhughey
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I was going to respond, but @Davillion answered accurately. Remakes require much less risk. The remade game already has a proven following and the creative direction has been vetted by the previous success. Just stamp out another one with improved visuals for about 33% of the original

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#12 adsparky
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Because it's a proven formula that most probably will sell well. Also, it costs a lot less when you don't have to do something from scratch.

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#13 R4gn4r0k
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@adsparky said:

Because it's a proven formula that most probably will sell well. Also, it costs a lot less when you don't have to do something from scratch.

Good point, entirely new games have a long pre development time and have a lot of stages like nailing the art style and setting, cutting ideas etc;

If you're remaking an old game you can go into full production way faster and you cut out a few years of development.

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#14 hrt_rulz01
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I don't mind the odd remake or remaster, if they're done well and actually enhance the original experience. But some of them are blatant money grabs...

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#15 Boiled-Hotdug
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I mean...I don't mind them...just wish it was older titles like Grand Theft Auto IV or Metal Gear Solid IV

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@R4gn4r0k: gfy

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#17 Archangel3371
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I’d like to see more to be honest. Probably don’t really need anything from the previous gen though since current gen is backwards compatible and those games are available to be purchased on the digital storefronts. Anything prior to that is certainly welcome though. There’s always people experiencing gaming for the first time so always folks who never played a whole bunch of these old classics.

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#18  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Because companies that are pumping them out, like Sony for example, can't afford to swing and miss on bad games, like concord for example.... Remakes and remastered games are a low risk investment in proven franchises to milk the easily duped fanbase into buying the same game again. That way the AAA publishers can continue to bring you 300 million dollar games that aren't as good as they were ten years ago.

I wonder how many thousands of hours went into remastering games this gen and how that impacts creativity going forward....

Also... Many remakes are wonderful. Very happy to have updated versions of dragon quest 3, Metroid Prime and even Actraiser Renaissance... Actual aged, classic games deserved of updating to modern sensibilities.

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#19 my_user_name
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Money.

I'm not against em if the games are pre 7th gen .

7th gen - a simple remaster will suffice in most cases and only necessary if games are stuck on old hardware.

8th gen - **** off Sony

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#20 TooFastNquick
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Because its hard to be original these days?

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#21 Ghosts4ever
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Nothing wrong with remakes.

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#22 pmanden
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Ever heard Abba's song Money, Money, Money? There is your answer.

To be fair, a lot of old, great games deserve a remake. Only problem is those cases where the original is better than the remake. That is kind of embarrassing.

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#23 UItravioIence
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Easy money to fund future projects?

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#24 Saint-George
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Easy folk to milk

You know who I mean

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#25 R4gn4r0k
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@ghosts4ever said:

Nothing wrong with remakes.

Yup, I'm looking forward to the Max Payne remakes.

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#26  Edited By Litchie
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Easy to make and sell.

@toofastnquick said:

Because its hard to be original these days?

Kind of, but it's not hard to be more original than AAA studios are today. Their focus is to chase the latest fads and bring in the most profit. Can they redo a game they've already made before and bring in extra profits between their latest microtransaction-ridden bullshit games, they will.

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#27 robert_sparkes
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Sony have really pushed the remasters this gen some of them are not needed. Did horizon zero dawn need a remaster it already looked incredible.

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#28 uninspiredcup  Online
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They go where money is made.

If they think they can get easy money with minimal effort, they will do it.

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#29 Miquella
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Out of ideas

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@toofastnquick said:

Because its hard to be original these days?

Half-Life would like to have a word with you and so does Crysis.

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#31 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Probably the biggest reason is cost--it simply costs less money via resources and time to create these sort of games which creates a good return for the game developers/publishers while also knowing the interest will be there (based on the prior games success) so there's also less a risk factor involved.

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#32 ermacness
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@icrackurnuts said:

@Pedro: ??

Well that’s his opinion as he is allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I don’t agree with it as I do believe in generations.

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#33 Pedro
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@ermacness said:
@icrackurnuts said:

@Pedro: ??

Well that’s his opinion as he is allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I don’t agree with it as I do believe in generations.

I didn't share my opinion.🙃

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#34 ermacness
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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:
@icrackurnuts said:

@Pedro: ??

Well that’s his opinion as he is allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I don’t agree with it as I do believe in generations.

I didn't share my opinion.🙃

Yeah you did, you’re just unaware of the occurrence.

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#35 Pedro
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@ermacness said:

Yeah you did, you’re just unaware of the occurrence.

You tried. 🤭

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#36 DaVillain  Moderator
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@ermacness said:

Well that’s his opinion as he is allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I don’t agree with it as I do believe in generations.

Except those were Jim Ryan's words when he said that "We Believe in Generations" and not Sony as a whole. I never took his words that seriously because that quote has been panned.

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#37 Nirgal
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Basically game development cost are rising and making new projects is considered risky.

Remaking an existing game is both less expensive to develop and less risky.

Still i understand why it's disappointing for us consumers.

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#38 onesiphorus
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@toofastnquick said:

Because its hard to be original these days?

How many original ideas do succeed? Most fail, even those that are ahead of their time.

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#39 Pedro
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@onesiphorus said:
@toofastnquick said:

Because its hard to be original these days?

How many original ideas do succeed? Most fail, even those that are ahead of their time.

This is true. Many original games fail. Gamers then complain that there isn't anything new, but they always default to buying the same games. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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#40 ermacness
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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

Yeah you did, you’re just unaware of the occurrence.

You tried. 🤭

As did you.

🤣🤣🤣

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#41  Edited By ermacness
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@davillain said:
@ermacness said:

Well that’s his opinion as he is allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I don’t agree with it as I do believe in generations.

Except those were Jim Ryan's words when he said that "We Believe in Generations" and not Sony as a whole. I never took his words that seriously because that quote has been panned.

Generations are a thing. It’s a literal fact that generations still exist.

I’m not too sure what Pedro is going on about.

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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#42  Edited By Pedro
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

You tried. 🤭

As did you.

🤣🤣🤣

And I succeeded.🤭

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#43 rmpumper
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@Pedro said:

No idea

That's what the game devs are thinking as well, so they just release the same old shit multiple times instead of making something new.

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#44  Edited By ermacness
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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

You tried. 🤭

As did you.

🤣🤣🤣

And I succeeded.🤭

So you think.

🤣🤣🤣

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#45 pillarrocks
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Turok and Turok 2 are good remasters of a N64 game fixing what limitations the N64 had. I just think certain games don't need the remaster treatment though have yet to see a game that got remade and was terrible than the original.

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#46 Pedro
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

You tried. 🤭

As did you.

🤣🤣🤣

And I succeeded.🤭

So you think.

🤣🤣🤣

You tried again.🤭

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#47 WitIsWisdom
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The gaming industry for the most part doesn't care about preserving history as they would try to have you believe.... these remasters and even most remakes are a LOT cheaper to produce and make them much larger profit margins. It's lazy and maximizes their potential earnings. Of course not all games that are remade fall under these circumstances, but the vast majority certainly do.

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#48  Edited By ermacness
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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

As did you.

🤣🤣🤣

And I succeeded.🤭

So you think.

🤣🤣🤣

You tried again.🤭

Touché.

I can go all day.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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#49 Pedro
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And again.🤭