Why does Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater exist? *SPOILERS!*

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#1 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Well, Metal Gear Solid 1 pretty much put the lid on everything and wrapped it up. There was nothing that had to be resolved.

In Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, we are left with hundreds of questions. Most noteably, what the hell happened with the Patriots? They all died... one hundred years ago? How?

Then Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is a... prequel? Why? Why wasn't Metal Gear Solid 3 what Metal Gear Solid 4 is? Why'd they decide to continue the story seven years later instead of having the next installment clear up the questions?

Now, I've only beaten Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2, and played a little bit of 4. Haven't tried 3 yet, so please, if you are going to spoil anything in the story of 3 or 4, please put *SPOILERS!* so I know.

By the way, are the Solid Snake Tales in Metal Gear Solid 2 worth doing? There's, like, five of, I guess, what Snake was doing during Raiden's part. Is it worth doing them? How long are they?

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#2 CJL13
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Eva's chest.

Also the Snake tales are non-canon and not as good as the rest of the game.

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#3 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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your topic name is misleading
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your topic name is misleadingULTIMATEZWARRIO

I had no idea what else to call it.

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MGS3 is the backstory, it fleshes out all of 1,2 and 4. The numerous references to the past to the cloning projects of the big boss etc, why the big boss did what he did. If you played through it all you'd fully understand.

Far too much to go into all the detail, but suffice to say, without 3 you wouldn't have the complete story.

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MGS3 is the backstory, it fleshes out all of 1,2 and 4. The numerous references to the past to the cloning projects of the big boss etc, why the big boss did what he did. If you played through it all you'd fully understand.

Far too much to go into all the detail, but suffice to say, without 3 you wouldn't have the complete story.

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Alrighy, then. I guess I will play 3 before 4.

Thanks.

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Play 3 before 4 while you still have the chance.

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#8 Solid_Link22
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It has to exist or else you do not get the complete story.
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Play the 3, it's simply amazing and adds a lot of depth to the series, especially when you play the 4.
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Why is it a prequel? Because Kojima wanted to make a prequel. It answers a few questions about the pasts of certain characters, and hints at the origins of the Patriots. But I think it has more to do with Hideo's desire to divorce himself from the series. MGS2 was supposed to be his last MGS game, and so was MGS3. He didn't intend to answer all the threads he left hanging in 2.

I've only played 2, 3, and 4, and I find 3 to be the best of the series, largely because it's divorced from a lot of the extraneous canon baggage that drag down the other two games.

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You have no clue why they made the game and yet you haven't played it? It's elementary my dear Watson. You obviously need to play the game to understand why the made it.
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to explain more, leading up to MGS2..silly.

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You have no clue why they made the game and yet you haven't played it? It's elementary my dear Watson. You obviously need to play the game to understand why the made it.foxhound_fox

But Sherlock Holmes, I was just wondering why he wouldn't want to continue the saga and make 3 later! But I guess it makes sense if it gives more backstory on some stuff. Both are out now, anyway, so it's win-win... except I don't have a PS3 yet.

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you need to play 3 to understand the ending to 4
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Why is it a prequel? Because Kojima wanted to make a prequel. It answers a few questions about the pasts of certain characters, and hints at the origins of the Patriots. But I think it has more to do with Hideo's desire to divorce himself from the series. MGS2 was supposed to be his last MGS game, and so was MGS3. He didn't intend to answer all the threads he left hanging in 2.

I've only played 2, 3, and 4, and I find 3 to be the best of the series, largely because it's divorced from a lot of the extraneous canon baggage that drag down the other two games.

sonicmj1

Wait... Why should we believe him that 4 is the last game?

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to answer the topic question....to serve as a plot device in the sequel

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But Sherlock Holmes, I was just wondering why he wouldn't want to continue the saga and make 3 later! But I guess it makes sense if it gives more backstory on some stuff. Both are out now, anyway, so it's win-win... except I don't have a PS3 yet.DeathScape666

Why did Team ICO make Shadow of the Colossus after ICO when Shadow of the Colossus predates ICO chronologically? Why even make prequels at all?

To expand the story. Big Boss is the basis of the Metal Gear/Metal Gear Solid story arc, without understanding him, you cannot understand the story.
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It gives alot of story on big boss and fleshes out the character and gives more insight on the american government in the MGS universe.
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Eva's chest.

Also the Snake tales are non-canon and not as good as the rest of the game.

CJL13

Wow, they must REALLY suck then.

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#20 CT-Link
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You dare question Kojima's way of story-telling???

I didn't dare...bought the game (Snake Eater)...played it...enjoyed it...played it 5 more times...cried my heart out...and YES it does exist for a reason, which is seen after playing MGS4 (so they've told me, since I don't have a PS3).

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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Why is it a prequel? Because Kojima wanted to make a prequel. It answers a few questions about the pasts of certain characters, and hints at the origins of the Patriots. But I think it has more to do with Hideo's desire to divorce himself from the series. MGS2 was supposed to be his last MGS game, and so was MGS3. He didn't intend to answer all the threads he left hanging in 2.

I've only played 2, 3, and 4, and I find 3 to be the best of the series, largely because it's divorced from a lot of the extraneous canon baggage that drag down the other two games.

DeathScape666

Wait... Why should we believe him that 4 is the last game?

I don't know, considering he's already been talking about MGS5. I mean, after MGS4, the series really does feel complete, but there are still a few gaps that could be filled in.

The idea is that he'll just be the producer, and he'll let the rest of his team take over without him. But we'll see how long that lasts...

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]But Sherlock Holmes, I was just wondering why he wouldn't want to continue the saga and make 3 later! But I guess it makes sense if it gives more backstory on some stuff. Both are out now, anyway, so it's win-win... except I don't have a PS3 yet.foxhound_fox

Why did Team ICO make Shadow of the Colossus after ICO when Shadow of the Colossus predates ICO chronologically? Why even make prequels at all?

To expand the story. Big Boss is the basis of the Metal Gear/Metal Gear Solid story arc, without understanding him, you cannot understand the story.

Yeah, I still don't quite know who this "Big Boss" character is at all. He was constantly referenced in 1 and 2, so I can't wait to see who this guy really is in 3. I would also try Portable Ops before 4, but I don't have a PSP.

I guess it was a good idea giving us 3 before 4, instead of 4 being 3, and in turn having 3 being 4, because then it would have a much epic closing if 4 was 4 and 3 was 3. You'd have a better understanding in total, and an epic close to the Metal Gear Solid franchise.

But 5 will come about. He said 2 and 3 were his last ones... C'mon! Metal Gear Solid is a money-maker, and Kojima really does like coming up with stories, as I can see.

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MGS3 is arguably the best in the series. Hell, I don't think there is a better moment in the series than when as Big Boss you fight The Boss in the meadow at the end and have to kill her. Hell, the ladder climb in itself was the definition of epic.
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#24 foxhound_fox
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Yeah, I still don't quite know who this "Big Boss" character is at all. He was constantly referenced in 1 and 2, so I can't wait to see who this guy really is in 3. I would also try Portable Ops before 4, but I don't have a PSP.

I guess it was a good idea giving us 3 before 4, instead of 4 being 3, and in turn having 3 being 4, because then it would have a much epic closing if 4 was 4 and 3 was 3. You'd have a better understanding in total, and an epic close to the Metal Gear Solid franchise.

But 5 will come about. He said 2 and 3 were his last ones... C'mon! Metal Gear Solid is a money-maker, and Kojima really does like coming up with stories, as I can see.

DeathScape666

He is the source of pretty much every single plot element in the entire series. I'd say getting his own game is pretty important.
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#25 foxhound_fox
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*spoilers*Cloud_Insurance

The poster who made this thread hasn't played the game. Show some courtesy and not reveal the ending.
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#26 Berry_on_Wheels
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MGS3 adds more questions to the hundreds from 2, which are all neatly summed up in 4. It adds a lot to the story.

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for the money
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#28 UnknownSniper65
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More like why can't video game writers have the foresight to not need to make prequels so we don't have to waste time on the backstory three games into the series.