why does Natal get all the hype??????

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#1 PrimusGears
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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

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#2 Blue-Sky
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Why should it gain more hype? Whats ambitious about it? Does it really stand out? Do you understand what hype is?

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#3 ktrotter11
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Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for now
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#4 Chris_Williams
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u typing this thread, adds to the hype ur talking about...-_-.. and its not getting all the hype, Microsoft just thinks they came out with the greatest invention ever...i had to laugh while typing that

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Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for nowktrotter11
I like how you pull facts out of your ****!
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It feels like its getting the most hype because it is. MS knows that all you have to do is pull out the smoke and mirrors, get people excited about it, and then release it (no matter if its good or not). I've said before and I'll say it again, MS is running aournd saying this will change gaming, that being without a controller will make you feel like part of the game. But the reality is, unless you want some wii-sports type stuff, some on-rails type stuff, some stand and shoot type stuff, its almost pointless. Bu, bu, but you can use some of the features WITH a controller. Yes, yes you can. And it should be labeled "tacked on" since thats how 360 fanboys treated the six-axis. Also, it shows MS' as the puppet master claiming its for controller-less gaming but their core audience will not use it like that at all.
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Because Sony's idea isn't as good. (imo)
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#8 lhughey
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because its a much bigger evolution of motion tech than the Sony device.
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#9 Microsoft1234
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u typing this thread, adds to the hype ur talking about...-_-.. and its not getting all the hype, Microsoft just thinks they came out with the greatest invention ever...i had to laugh while typing that

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#10 dragonfly110
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it may be because MIcroosoft is supporting Natal a lot more then sony is, so more people know about it thus making more people excited about it.

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#11 Killzowner
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thats funny cuz i hear alot about sonys motion control, and how it is the best one for gaming.
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#12 dragonfly110
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thats funny cuz i hear alot about sonys motion control, and how it is the best one for gaming.Killzowner

err when have you heard that other then the threads that you yourself make?

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#13 johnlennon28
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when ps3 eye came out it was just like an ordinary unrevolutinary accessory, but people are creating hype for natal like the ps3 eye didnt exist before, so the way I see it, its more of a knowledge of MS when it comes to good marketing strategy
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#14 beast667
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I think both Natal and sonys thing are kinda stupid, and I don't understand any hype for both of them.
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[QUOTE="Killzowner"]thats funny cuz i hear alot about sonys motion control, and how it is the best one for gaming.dragonfly110

err when have you heard that other then the threads that you yourself make?

from everyone who is excited about playing HARDCORE games with motion tech. it was fun for a while on the wii, but they just dont make the kind of games that sony devs make, and sony devs are already working with the motion control. Cant wait to see the game. Natal however is more focused on non-hardcore gaming, such as folder movements, pc applications, and casual dinosaur walking experiences.
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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

PrimusGears

Because Sony aren't really hyping it and most people see it as a Wiimote rip off. Meanwhile M$ is hyping Natal and its an almost ridiculous concept.

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#17 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Killzowner"]thats funny cuz i hear alot about sonys motion control, and how it is the best one for gaming.Killzowner

err when have you heard that other then the threads that you yourself make?

from everyone who is excited about playing HARDCORE games with motion tech. it was fun for a while on the wii, but they just dont make the kind of games that sony devs make, and sony devs are already working with the motion control. Cant wait to see the game. Natal however is more focused on non-hardcore gaming, such as folder movements, pc applications, and casual dinosaur walking experiences.

er Im not a lemming (I personally think all 3 motion things are lame) but natal isnt used for any of that stuff that I know of :P How can you move PC applications on a 360 (unless you are talking about the PC natal of course...) its used as an add on for games (not completely take over the games like the wii mote) I mean Rare is working on it, you know its gonna have something good in it with them.

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Because Sony's ball-a-stick looks like Ninty's M+. Natal is Doing something different from Sony and Nintendo. That's why it stands out more.

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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

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Sony is still developing it and making sure games can be run on it usefully. Microsoft is putting it together in and possibly planning to fixx the glitches and failures as they go. That's why they hype it more so that more people buy it before it potentially bombs. My Opinion.
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#20 Killzowner
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Killzowner"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

err when have you heard that other then the threads that you yourself make?

from everyone who is excited about playing HARDCORE games with motion tech. it was fun for a while on the wii, but they just dont make the kind of games that sony devs make, and sony devs are already working with the motion control. Cant wait to see the game. Natal however is more focused on non-hardcore gaming, such as folder movements, pc applications, and casual dinosaur walking experiences.

er Im not a lemming (I personally think all 3 motion things are lame) but natal isnt used for any of that stuff that I know of :P How can you move PC applications on a 360 (unless you are talking about the PC natal of course...) its used as an add on for games (not completely take over the games like the wii mote) I mean Rare is working on it, you know its gonna have something good in it with them.

see thats the thing, microsoft has actually said they are looking at pc applications and such for natal. this shows they are not putting 100% effort of its use for 360 and gaming only. Sony however is not worried about anything else except gaming for their motion control. This is why i take them serious.
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Killzowner"] from everyone who is excited about playing HARDCORE games with motion tech. it was fun for a while on the wii, but they just dont make the kind of games that sony devs make, and sony devs are already working with the motion control. Cant wait to see the game. Natal however is more focused on non-hardcore gaming, such as folder movements, pc applications, and casual dinosaur walking experiences.Killzowner

er Im not a lemming (I personally think all 3 motion things are lame) but natal isnt used for any of that stuff that I know of :P How can you move PC applications on a 360 (unless you are talking about the PC natal of course...) its used as an add on for games (not completely take over the games like the wii mote) I mean Rare is working on it, you know its gonna have something good in it with them.

see thats the thing, microsoft has actually said they are looking at pc applications and such for natal. this shows they are not putting 100% effort of its use for 360 and gaming only. Sony however is not worried about anything else except gaming for their motion control. This is why i take them serious.

can you give me a link at where Sony said that? Id like to read it.

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#22 navyguy21
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Its simple - MS is hyping it because they want it to sell. Sure it LOOKS new and fresh, but thats because of presentation and marketing. Why do people take ths crap so personally?? any smart company is going to hype their product to death, no matter how incremental it is over other products. Do you really think they would hop on stage and say 'Well, this has been done before, we just added some new features so we can expand our userbase"?? That would be product suicide!! Come on people, its these peoples JOB to hype products, and its up to WE THE CONSUMER, to see through the PR crap, but we all know that most people buy into the hype anyway, so thats why they do it.
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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

PrimusGears
no, because Sony is focusing on the games and you should be happy about it. Ms' strategy is not only oriented to give its costumers qualitative games, but also to gain another chunk of the market constituted by the casual gamers.
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It feels like its getting the most hype because it is. MS knows that all you have to do is pull out the smoke and mirrors, get people excited about it, and then release it (no matter if its good or not). I've said before and I'll say it again, MS is running aournd saying this will change gaming, that being without a controller will make you feel like part of the game. But the reality is, unless you want some wii-sports type stuff, some on-rails type stuff, some stand and shoot type stuff, its almost pointless. Bu, bu, but you can use some of the features WITH a controller. Yes, yes you can. And it should be labeled "tacked on" since thats how 360 fanboys treated the six-axis. Also, it shows MS' as the puppet master claiming its for controller-less gaming but their core audience will not use it like that at all.PoppaGamer

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but in my opinion Natal is a step in the right direction for full functioning VR simulation. Imagine 10 years from now? Natal is a good steping stone for such technology, might not be perfect now, it's not, but a good solid step. I'm interested in trying it.

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Because Microsoft, unlike Sony, knows how to market their ****.

Natal has already been on TV, and on popular websites, and it was all over E3, so yah.

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One word. Marketing.

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#27 FatalDomain
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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

PrimusGears
Sorry man but Sony and its fans need to understand its days of gaming domination are over. No longer can Sony simply make an announcement and have to industry foaming at the mouth. If Sony wants to make a splash, they need to show and prove they have the goods. That hearsay stuff is obsolete in this gen, the industry wants constant updates of info about the device, its benefits, and anything else related to the technology. Game On....
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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]It feels like its getting the most hype because it is. MS knows that all you have to do is pull out the smoke and mirrors, get people excited about it, and then release it (no matter if its good or not). I've said before and I'll say it again, MS is running aournd saying this will change gaming, that being without a controller will make you feel like part of the game. But the reality is, unless you want some wii-sports type stuff, some on-rails type stuff, some stand and shoot type stuff, its almost pointless. Bu, bu, but you can use some of the features WITH a controller. Yes, yes you can. And it should be labeled "tacked on" since thats how 360 fanboys treated the six-axis. Also, it shows MS' as the puppet master claiming its for controller-less gaming but their core audience will not use it like that at all.Innovazero2000

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but in my opinion Natal is a step in the right direction for full functioning VR simulation. Imagine 10 years from now? Natal is a good steping stone for such technology, might not be perfect now, it's not, but a good solid step. I'm interested in trying it.

I agree, its a stepping stone. I just don't think MS should be launching it now because of where we are at in this gen and the lack of use for it. That aside, my biggest beef is with the misinformation MS is spreading about the product. Its all hype and not much to deliver with.
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Because M$ is a hype machine. They can even sell broken products and get away with it.
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Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for nowktrotter11
thats why it's WIP
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Because M$ is a hype machine. They can even sell broken products and get away with it.Odrec
+1 @ that. Microsoft: Leader on defectous products since 1995....
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I don't get it either. It seems the same as Eyetoy which was not that good.
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Killzowner"] from everyone who is excited about playing HARDCORE games with motion tech. it was fun for a while on the wii, but they just dont make the kind of games that sony devs make, and sony devs are already working with the motion control. Cant wait to see the game. Natal however is more focused on non-hardcore gaming, such as folder movements, pc applications, and casual dinosaur walking experiences.Killzowner

er Im not a lemming (I personally think all 3 motion things are lame) but natal isnt used for any of that stuff that I know of :P How can you move PC applications on a 360 (unless you are talking about the PC natal of course...) its used as an add on for games (not completely take over the games like the wii mote) I mean Rare is working on it, you know its gonna have something good in it with them.

see thats the thing, microsoft has actually said they are looking at pc applications and such for natal. this shows they are not putting 100% effort of its use for 360 and gaming only. Sony however is not worried about anything else except gaming for their motion control. This is why i take them serious.

I'm glad Sony doesn't look to put their hardware in other things outside of gaming. You know like Cell processors in computers or BluRay players other than in PS3. I know when I talk about Sony they are only about gaming. WOOT!

Back on topic, the reason I see Natal getting more attention is because it is being made avilable to the public. At E3 the public was able to play with it, heck it was even on the Jimmy Fallon show.

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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but in my opinion Natal is a step in the right direction for full functioning VR simulation. Imagine 10 years from now? Natal is a good steping stone for such technology, might not be perfect now, it's not, but a good solid step. I'm interested in trying it.

I agree, its a stepping stone. I just don't think MS should be launching it now because of where we are at in this gen and the lack of use for it. That aside, my biggest beef is with the misinformation MS is spreading about the product. Its all hype and not much to deliver with.

For once, i agree with you :P I think its too late to make a difference now, they shouldve waited until next gen to do it.
I don't get it either. It seems the same as Eyetoy which was not that good.kage_53
Eyetoy doesnt have facial or voice recognition, nor can it scan in a 3D space, so its clearly an upgrade, but so far, i dont think its as accurate as the Sony wand thingy
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Companies are supposed to hype their crap. Sony should do the same with their motion thing too but people here hate it when Sony hype stuff.
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]I agree, its a stepping stone. I just don't think MS should be launching it now because of where we are at in this gen and the lack of use for it. That aside, my biggest beef is with the misinformation MS is spreading about the product. Its all hype and not much to deliver with.

For once, i agree with you :P I think its too late to make a difference now, they shouldve waited until next gen to do it.
I don't get it either. It seems the same as Eyetoy which was not that good.kage_53
Eyetoy doesnt have facial or voice recognition, nor can it scan in a 3D space, so its clearly an upgrade, but so far, i dont think its as accurate as the Sony wand thingy

sony said recently that the ps eye has now face recognition and can track your entire body (including fingers) I think.
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Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for nowktrotter11
ah, no nude motion sensing! Bummer.
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[QUOTE="ktrotter11"]Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for nowdkrustyklown
ah, no nude motion sensing! Bummer.

lol, you dont have to have bright colors, that dude is delusional, you can have all the nude motion sensing you want :P
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"][QUOTE="ktrotter11"]Natal looks nice but the recognition stuff is bs..u have to wear bright colors just to be seen by the camera..well atleast for nownavyguy21
ah, no nude motion sensing! Bummer.

lol, you dont have to have bright colors, that dude is delusional, you can have all the nude motion sensing you want :P

Not really, the floppage would proabably throw off the detection.
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#40 Ontain
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Again it feels like Sony is missing the ball? What is going on? I hear nothing about the "SONY MOTION CONTROLLER", I mean cant they come up with a name already?

PrimusGears
because MS is really serious and behind Natal and Sony is behind it's motion controller about as much as it was behind the eyetoy.
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1.because microsoft is actually smart and markets their stuff unlike other game companies.

2.cows won't shut up about it.

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#42 fedor19820
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is it true that the sony motion stuff is going to be more accurate since its using the wii like remotes + the ps3 eye

i remember hearing about it during E3but sure if it was confirmed or verified

i have a wii and the only game i like using the wii motes is for wii sports baseball other than that am not a fan of motion controls and i dont care for ms or sony's attempt i prefer controlers lol

it has to be a game were ur doing natural motions (like the baseball game) for me to get into the motion stuff

but playing something like marvel ultimate alliance i prefer the old fashon way of pressing buttons and using analog stick

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i really dont know why people are hyping it :/
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Because motion control is only cool when Microsoft does it.
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#45 theflash118
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Microsoft has a name for its product.

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#46 santoron
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It is getting more hype for two reasons. First, the public is more excited about the additional possibilities it brings not just for games, but for interacting with your media. Second, MS has made a NATAL a HUGE focus in their plans going forward for the 360 and even the PC. Sony simply doesn't seem to be pushing their own device nearly as hard.

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because cows think the wand is lame.