Why does Pokemon still have 1996 gameplay?

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#1 PhazonBlazer
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And people just let Nintendo get away with it?

People get angry with Assassins Creed and Call of Duty when Pokemon has not changed in almost 20 years. They also get away with making remakes that are simply graphical updates.

Why does Pokemon get a free pass? It literally uses ancient gameplay mechanics.

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#2  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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#3 Basinboy
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The real question we're all wondering is why does your avatar still have a Santa cap?

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#4 Shinobishyguy
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Because they got it right the first time

/thread

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#5 mems_1224
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Better question, why does AssCreed still have 1996 gameplay?

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#6 Renegade_Fury
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Beats me. Pokemon's lack of change is why I don't buy the games anymore.

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#7 ninjapirate2000
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Because JRPG's don't change.

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#8  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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Lots of

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#9 PhazonBlazer
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@Basinboy said:

The real question we're all wondering is why does your avatar still have a Santa cap?

It's his nose.

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#10 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Because Nintendo's main constituents are kids and teens and there will always be those. I was actually surprised at how little the game has changed, myself. Bought X last year pretty much out of nostalgia (haven't played since Red), and it's true.

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#11  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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You're too funny.

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#12  Edited By turtlethetaffer
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You don't need to fix something that needs no improvement.

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#13 bbkkristian
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Phazon loves Pokemon Rumble.

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#14  Edited By parkurtommo
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@ninjapirate2000 said:

Because JRPG's don't change.

This one.

They don't need to change apparently.

That's the thing about most Japanese developers and publishers, they're oblivious to public opinion. If the game sells well they will keep making more of it just like Activision, they don't give a shit about the sensible people who actually require innovation to want a game, they only care about the audience that currently enjoys their games, the ones that don't complain (sheeple).

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#15 smashed_pinata
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I didn't know double battles existed in Red/Blue.

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#16  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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@bbkkristian said:

Phazon loves Pokemon Rumble.

And don't get me started on Xenoblade.

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#17 turtlethetaffer
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@parkurtommo said:

@ninjapirate2000 said:

Because JRPG's don't change.

This one.

They don't need to change apparently.

That's the thing about most Japanese developers and publishers, they're oblivious to public opinion. If the game sells well they will keep making more of it just like Activision, they don't give a shit about the sensible people who actually require innovation to want a game, they only care about the audience that currently enjoys their games, the ones that don't complain (sheeple).

As someone who loves JRPGs, I can say that I see your point. It's just a taste thing I guess. You love it or you hate it. I personally love a god JRPG, and even though the majority have very similar gameplay to one another, there's usually some kind of twist that sets individual games apart. That's what I've found at least. Plus, several recent ones have reminded true to what many people love about JRPGs while still delivering innovation.

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#18 Jankarcop
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Why are most console games more casual than the easiest pc F2P games?

Who cares, these questions will never be answered OP.

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#19 SYSTEM-REBOOT
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Assassins creed has gameplay? thats news to me

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#20 DocSanchez
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@PhazonBlazer: You'll notice no one actually answers your point, because they can't. So they attack you instead. Lazy, dumb, and enhances your point 100%. People let Nintendo get away with anything.

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#21 Mario1331
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@parkurtommo: games have to change for people to continue to like it? The fuq am i reading

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#22 silversix_
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Because its nintendo and nintendo is still in the 90's. Isn't this a known fact by now? Pretty sure it is and the only ones ignoring it are teh nintendo fans.

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#23 GreySeal9
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Lots of people on this board (myself included) have called out Pokemon for being rehashilicious.

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#25  Edited By k2theswiss
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that's the style

have an issue? too fucking bad because 12m+ people don't

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#26 Basinboy
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@PhazonBlazer said:

@Basinboy said:

The real question we're all wondering is why does your avatar still have a Santa cap?

It's his nose.

I'm not seeing it

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#27  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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@Mario1331: apparently change for the sake of it is good.

Just look at final fantasy 13, everyone loves that game

*you obviously get my point

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#28 zassimick  Moderator
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1996 called. It wants its Pokémon game back.

I told them I'd call back.

I'm not going to call back.

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#29  Edited By edwardecl
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If people like it so fucking what?

People also like Dynasty Warriors, that fucking game hasn't changed since the second one when they put horses in it...

There are quite a few games that got it right first (lets discount Dynasty Warriors from that list) then the sequels completely **** it up, sometimes change is bad and all what was needed was expanding the content rather than changing the gameplay.

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#30  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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@DocSanchez: projecting pretty hard there buddy.

I think you might wanna tone the victim complex thing down a tad, it's making you seem a bit douchey

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#31 PrincessGomez92
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@DocSanchez:

Who's attacking him? Do tell.

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#32 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Why did Sony use 20 year old analog sticks out of a warehouse for the Playstation 3 controller? I do not know.

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#33 speedfreak48t5p
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LOL. Jelly cow. Praise Godtendo!

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#34 GreySeal9
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@Shinobishyguy said:

@DocSanchez: projecting pretty hard there buddy.

I think you might wanna tone the victim complex thing down a tad, it's making you seem a bit douchey

DocSanchez takes SW more seriously than just about anybody.

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#35 Bigboi500
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Free pass? *looks at recent Pokemon reviews, then looks at Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed reviews* I think you've got that backwards, son.

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#36 ghostwarrior786
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Because ninty sells its games based on nostalgia

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#37 ReadingRainbow4
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I haven't played a pokemon game since Red/Blue. They just seem so bleh.

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#38  Edited By madsnakehhh
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Does it really matter?

*watch sales numbers...

Yeah it doesn't. Anyway, the last Pokemon i played was Black in the DS, it was my fourth Pokemon game and yeah, it's pretty much the same concept, but the game is really fun to play, if people have an issue with that...then don't buy the game, nobody here get's a "free pass" like you said, if the game is fun, then people will buy it, period, even if it is the same game over and over again (Pokemon, Assassin's Creed, GEOW, CoD, etc...)

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#39 DJ-Lafleur
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I feel like the only person in the entirety of the internet that doesn't bitch about games not changing or being rehashy.

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#40 bbkkristian
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Why does Uncharted/halo/asscreed/gearsofwar/cod/battlefield/infamous/killzone/Mario/Zelda have the same gameplay for all their games?

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#41  Edited By thomasmcshea
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why change something that sells 10 million units with ease

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#42 Elpresador-911
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The nintendo sheeple love their 1986 cartoon rehashes

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#43 PS4hasNOgames
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they should make a proper 3d pokemon for wii u.

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#44 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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people like repetition. I used to like pokemon, but yeah it got boring eventually

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#45 Heil68
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@thomasmcshea said:

why change something that sells 10 million units with ease

BINGO was his name-o...OH!

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#46 Raptor_Herc
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For the same reason Pong still has 1970s gameplay.

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#48 clone01
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Why does Chess still have the same gameplay?

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#49  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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The question I'm wondering is why you have no idea what's happened with the pokemon series in the past 18 years

The metagame/competitive scene of pokemon has seen a massive change since 1996. In fact, Pokemon Pearl and Diamond had one of the biggest impacts on it.