Why does the 360 fail so much..

What makes the xbox 360(MS) fail so much in japan?

I was watching some dev diarys about the ps3 and alot of japanese developers are sony bias.

SEGA wow ( valkyria chronicles )

Hideo kojima ( METALGEARSOLID )

Team CSI ( yakuza series )

Cyberconnect 9 ( naruto fighting franchise)

FromSoftware ( Demon's soul, 3D dot hero )

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My idea is Sony owns the majority of the market share ( when talking about HD gaming ).

What are your thoughs/reasons why you thing the xbox can't be successful in the east?

Microsoft's launch, that's why.

Japanese people like party games, board/palor games (ie Mahjong), RPGs (ie Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest), fighting and action adventure.

When MS launched the 360, it launched with pretty much ALL American-flavored games, so of course it would fail. Microsoft tried to rectify the situation with Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata but it was too late and not enough.

If Microsoft launched with big name RPGs (possibly getting Blue Dragon out for launch), party games and a few other Japanese type games it could've possibly been at about 5 million sales in Japan now.

Microsoft wanted the Japanese taste to change to Americans taste, and not the other way around.

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

because its loud, has a high hardware failure rate and you have to pay to play online on a game that you already paid full price($60) for

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Modern_Unit

Japanese people love iPods and McDonalds, because Apple and McDonalds changed their ways to fit Japanese lifestyle (ie Japanese music, teriyaki burgers, etc. etc.)

Microsoft launched with Perfect Dark Zero, Project Gotham Racing 3 and Kameo and hoped the Japanese would buy it. It was doomed from the start.

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

They didn't like Xbox to begin with and the RRoD didn't help, people in Japan are smart and not buy defective stuff...

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Modern_Unit

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Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

salxis

Hideo kojima, has yet to develop for any other console then a Sony console in the last 15 years. Twin snakes being the only exception.

The same reason Monster Hunter=God over there, and it is "meh" here.

Various reasons. Brand loyalty and most Western games don't appeal to them much.SpinoRaptor24

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Modern_Unit

The iPod is huge in Japan. So are certain other products and companies. Kentucky Fried Chicken is more popular there than it is here.

The reason it's sone so poorly in Japan is because MS did nothing to cater to the Japanese market at launch. And once they figured out what they needed to do, it was too little too late.

Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Modern_Unit

Do you even know how many PS3's and Wii's have sold in NA and EU ? That sort of throws your statement off.

Brand loyalty and Western games dont appeal to the East compared to vice-versa.

because its loud, has a high hardware failure rate and you have to pay to play online on a game that you already paid full price($60) for

rocoswav

That's not the reason. Sony would do the same (don't forget we've seen glitches in the PS2 era), and they'd still gobble it up.

because Wii tha best!!! MAN!!!! LISTEN!!!!

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]Various reasons. Brand loyalty and most Western games don't appeal to them much.Fightingfan

Perhaps so.

Most Japanese grew up with Sony. There's no doubt that they've left their mark in Japan.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]Various reasons. Brand loyalty and most Western games don't appeal to them much.Fightingfan

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Modern_Unit

1. American isn't a race.

2. Every time someone says that, I can't help but look at this gen and the past two gens.

What makes the xbox 360(MS) fail so much in japan?

I was watching some dev diarys about the ps3 and alot of japanese developers are sony bias.

SEGA wow ( valkyria chronicles )

Hideo kojima ( METALGEARSOLID )

Team CSI ( yakuza series )

Cyberconnect 9 ( naruto fighting franchise)

FromSoftware ( Demon's soul, 3D dot hero )

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My idea is Sony owns the majority of the market share ( when talking about HD gaming ).

What are your thoughs/reasons why you thing the xbox can't be successful in the east?

Fightingfan

sega have 360 Exclusives

Metal Gear Started in a Microsoft Computer The idea came from Microsoft

and the rest well Same reason why AMERICAN dev use Microsoft

Mass Effect2

Start Wars KOTOR

Bungis Halo / Even tho reach its the last Halo from bungie ther next project will most likly go to Microsoft

Epic

Its simple Jep/ PS3 and USA/ Microsoft

Racial loyalty is a lot stronger among Japanese than Caucasians. Japanese will almost never buy anything non-japanese which tries to immitate a japanese product. Game consoles were a japanese creation by origin. The Xbox is merely an american version of something originally japanese which is trying to capitalize on the japanese market. I can see why many japanese won't support the xbox.

Cars were invented by the west. Japanese created their own versions of it. American's still buy japanese cars. Hence, not at the same level.

Racial loyalty is a lot stronger among Japanese than Caucasians. Japanese will almost never buy anything non-japanese which tries to immitate a japanese product. Game consoles were a japanese creation by origin. The Xbox is merely an american version of something originally japanese which is trying to capitalize on the japanese market. I can see why many japanese won't support the xbox.

Cars were invented by the west. Japanese created their own versions of it. American's still buy japanese cars. Hence, not at the same level.

jhcho2

Video game systems are originally American.

And many non-japanese products and companies are incredibly successful in Japan.

The xbox could have been huge in japan. Microsoft just didn't release the right games for it.

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Japanese people buy japanese products? (Apologize to anyone who got offended by this comment, not to sound racist)

Same concept in america: americans buy american products (again not to sound racist)

Fightingfan

Hideo kojima, has yet to develop for any other console then a Sony console in the last 15 years. Twin snakes being the only exception.

and also the new metal gear with Raiden and new castlevania game i think he is also working on

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Racial loyalty is a lot stronger among Japanese than Caucasians. Japanese will almost never buy anything non-japanese which tries to immitate a japanese product. Game consoles were a japanese creation by origin. The Xbox is merely an american version of something originally japanese which is trying to capitalize on the japanese market. I can see why many japanese won't support the xbox.

Cars were invented by the west. Japanese created their own versions of it. American's still buy japanese cars. Hence, not at the same level.

BuryMe

Video game systems are originally American.

And many non-japanese products and companies are incredibly successful in Japan.

The xbox could have been huge in japan. Microsoft just didn't release the right games for it.

Well, the first commercially 'successful' game console was Atari. You judge an industry by the ones who set a standard for it, not by who invented the first working prototype without commercial success. Just like electronics, like any other technology in this world, were mostly invented by the West. But the japanese set the standard for electronics nowadays, and became a japanese dominated industry. In general, japanese have more faith in japanese electronics than American. The 360's RROD is a testiment to the fact that American's are just not as good at it.....

And i didn't say that non-japanese products won't be successful in japan. It really depends on whether the product has a strong japanese competition or not, and whether the japanese were the pioneers of that product.

Why does the 360 fail so much in Japan?

simple.

it's an American Product trying to sell in Japan.

Japanese people don't like american made things? That one bomb that hit them might have something to do with that.xsubtownerx

I don't think the Japanese have a grudge against the Americans for that. To tell you the truth, the amount of people which died due to the Japanese WWII atrocities mounted to maybe 10x more than what the Atomic Bomb inflicted on them. If anything, the world had more reason to have a grudge against the japanese. During WWII in Asia, the japanese will decapitate or shoot anyone just for not liking their face. Almost the whole asian continent felt the wrath of the japanese.

And as much as i hate saying this, and i'm sure even the japanese back then knew it, but they really really had it coming (the atom bomb thing).

Japanese people don't like american made things? That one bomb that hit them might have something to do with that.xsubtownerx

The same reason Monster Hunter=God over there, and it is "meh" here.

AmayaPapaya

Unfortunately.

As far as the 360 in Japan goes, it has nothing to do with Microsoft being an American company (or has very little to do with it) It's all about the games that the Japanese like that the 360 didn't/doesn't have.

it wasnt catered to the japanese audeince at the beginning of its life cycle

because its not very good

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[QUOTE="salxis"] This is pretty much it, the developers you listed are all eastern developers, and I believe 3/5 of them are either developing or had developed for 360 before. Sony owns the majority of Market in Japan yes

YoJim8obaJoe

Hideo kojima, has yet to develop for any other console then a Sony console in the last 15 years. Twin snakes being the only exception.

and also the new metal gear with Raiden and new castlevania game i think he is also working on

Besides the jrpg's Microsoft tried to hold hostage, what Xbox games are going to attract Japanese gamers that isnt already on the PS3?

because its loud, has a high hardware failure rate and you have to pay to play online on a game that you already paid full price($60) for

rocoswav

This. Also I would change your title. Too general. Makes you seem like a troll.

it wasnt catered to the japanese audeince at the beginning of its life cycle

Mario1331

Japanese people don't like american made things? That one bomb that hit them might have something to do with that.xsubtownerx

The 360 per se doesent fail much.

Its the games, look at the western styled games on the PS3 like Uncharted 1 and 2, Killzone 2 and the likes, they probably bombed in Japan in sales.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Japanese people don't like american made things? That one bomb that hit them might have something to do with that.TexasGameboy

This... You guys should stop pissing on about the nuke. So they dropped it, how many more Americans would have to die to get Japan to surender? 50.000? 60.000? 100.000?

Ask yourself this: You can either send 100.000 of your countries young men to die on a godforsaken island in the pacific, or you can drop a bomb on them that would end the war and spare the life of those soldiers.
If i had the choice i'd rather drop something as horrible as a nuclear weapon then send my countrymen to die...