Why does the PS3 version always have to be inferior to 360's?

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#1 TheCSPeaceMaker
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I want to buy a PS3. The price is abit to high but its not the main factor in holding me back. Whats holding me back is why does the 360 versions always have to be so much superior ? I want to buy Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5 and Fallout 3 for PS3 but you know somehow the 360 version will always outclass it in some way. Look at the Fallout 3 score, or the user review of bioshock and so on.Are the 360 advantages real or over exaggerated?

The 360 while it is the cheaper console, when u add in everything you have to buy it just feels like a hassle. You have to get a hard drive if u get the cheapest model just to download demos and ect, you have to pay for online just to play other ppl, you have to worry about RROD, you have to buy a better controller if you want to have a fair chance at ppl in fighting games. Its always more money with the 360. :?

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#2 -DrRobotnik-
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Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games.
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#3 Floppy_Jim
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It's not as problematic now as it was back in 2006/7. Aside from Fallout 3, every big name multiplat from last year was virtually identical. And I believe Tomb Raider was technically a little better on PS3 (But lacked DLC). Resi 5 and SF 4 are both Capcom games, so they'll be fine on both consoles.
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It is common knowledge that the PS3 is a difficult to develop for platform, games that are not developed specifically for the PS3 tend to suffer in some way. So when you port a 360 game to PS3 there tends to be quality losses, which is why many developers are now using the PS3 as the lead platform to minimize this impact.

In fact I recall hearing somewhere that a PC Cell processor add-in card was in the works to make developing PS3 games easier.

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#5 Sigmaan
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My guess ? Well if the PS3 is hard to develop for, most likely developers will focus on the 360 version then just port the game to the PS3
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#6 AirGuitarist87
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The 360 is more akin, hardware wise, to a PC so having a multi-platform game will always be easier to code for that than the PS3. However, the differences between the two are usually nothing to really bother about, such as a flower in the middle-distance will be in higher definition in one version. Most multi-platform games are near identical.
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#7 Squall18
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Honestly, if u have a 360 and Wii, save ur money cus a PS3 price cut will be here in 4months or so!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#8 Generalmojo
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Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. -DrRobotnik-

I think ps3 owners are fine with that, kz2 is shaping up to be a great game

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#9 ps3_owns_360Wii
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burnout says hi~!
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. Generalmojo

I think ps3 owners are fine with that, kz2 is shaping up to be a great game

I never said it was a bad thing >.> And i thought this thread was about DLC and things like that, not little things like better textures or higher AA. Oh well...
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#11 Generalmojo
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. -DrRobotnik-

I think ps3 owners are fine with that, kz2 is shaping up to be a great game

I never said it was a bad thing >.> And i thought this thread was about DLC and things like that, not little things like better textures or higher AA. Oh well...

i know :)

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The differences are so small, practically negligible. I only see the difference when GS does these side-by-side comparisons. But if you play one game on a 360, and play the same game on the ps3, its not like the ps3 game is VASTLY inferior. Its usually like shadows or something like that.
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#13 markop2003
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With the user reviews it could be that PS3 owners are just more piscky, they did spend much more on their console afterall. Aalso i think most multiplats were built for the 360 then converted.
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. Generalmojo

I think ps3 owners are fine with that, kz2 is shaping up to be a great game

please keep it in the sticky, already to many posts about it
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#15 Mr_Ditters
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Its exaggerated. The gamespot screenshots are a joke. For example the deep space screenshots are nothing like the ps3 version. Ive played games on both. The differences are negligeble.
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#16 BioShockOwnz
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The Xbox 360 is easier to develop for. That's it. Kaz likes that the PS3 is complicated and expensive, though, so I guess it's all good.
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#17 ninjaxmas
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theres really only a handfull of games that preform better on the 360 honostly. certainly less than 10...
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Its much better than it used to be.

Most games are identical, then some games reviewers say theres a difference but to most of us it un noticable, some games like fallout 3 though are better on the 360.

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#19 ninjaxmas
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burnout says hi~!ps3_owns_360Wii
and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...
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#20 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!ninjaxmas
and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...

i didnt want to name them all off:P

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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!ninjaxmas
and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...

alone in the dark~
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#23 Blackbond
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Ease of development compared to the more complicated PS3. Its not always but it is the majority of time.
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#24 GameHog9
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The differences are so small, practically negligible. I only see the difference when GS does these side-by-side comparisons. But if you play one game on a 360, and play the same game on the ps3, its not like the ps3 game is VASTLY inferior. Its usually like shadows or something like that. rsoxguy12

^This.

Occasionaly the PS3 version turns out better like Eternal Sonata or BioShock.

Sometime they turn out .013% inferior, but usually they pack in extra content to offshoot this :)

Works for me.

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#25 ninjaxmas
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[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!seannn199
and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...

alone in the dark~

ah, 4got about that one. thanks
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[QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]The differences are so small, practically negligible. I only see the difference when GS does these side-by-side comparisons. But if you play one game on a 360, and play the same game on the ps3, its not like the ps3 game is VASTLY inferior. Its usually like shadows or something like that. GameHog9

^This.

Occasionaly the PS3 version turns out better like Eternal Sonata or BioShock.

Sometime they turn out .013% inferior, but usually they pack in extra content to offshoot this :)

Works for me.

Bad examples. They turned out better due to the extra year of dev time (and while were on topic, was Bioshock better looking on the PS3? I still remember seeing that hideously textured Big Daddy)
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#27 Blackbond
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$$$$$$$$$$Timstuff

Please explain yourself.

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]$$$$$$$$$$Blackbond

Please explain yourself.

M$ goes around developers and says "here, why dont you just forget about AA in the PS3 version?" while slipping a blank cheque in their pocket.
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well in few cases i belive wii version is also more better in a few games especally sports titles and

quantum of solace 007, it offers split screen , which if you played goldeneye alot you know how awsome it was to sit and play with friends you actually know in real lifel ol , the wii version also includes online support , just like the 360 the only drawback is g raphics and a few modes are missing but i dont think i liked those modes , their hte same , with tactics in volved, i like the fast paced classic mode/deathmatch ,

so ya and to answer your question , i simply dont care whether or not the 360 has the better version because as of this generation you cant tell me games havent been shorten ,

no matter the console out side the first party titles of the 3 , the 3rd party in most cases has made shorter and shorter games in favor of graphics

gta iv for example, compare this to san andreas,

youll see that iv is smaller in mission count i actually got strategy guides, and i can count them each for both then add the side stuff , san andreas is clearly the biggest gta made,

test drive unlimited is probably the biggest third party game made that is free mode style.

its the whole island of hawaii not just a city and itll take you 30 minutes to an hour to drive from one end of the island to the next why they didnt port it over to ps3 is i dont have a clue , it is one of my favorite 360 games and id love to play it again on my ps3 burnout is farily the same compared to the 360 version , wwe series is also the same, if not better on ps3

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#30 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]$$$$$$$$$$-DrRobotnik-

Please explain yourself.

M$ goes around developers and says "here, why dont you just forget about AA in the PS3 version?" while slipping a blank cheque in their pocket.

Yeah and with that notion I would kindly ask for proof of a claim.

I was also thinking that the 360 and PC platforms are more lucrative froma financial standpoint as well as not requiring as much time and resouces. Being overly complicated and with the smaller user base coupled with using a different architecture then the other two.

Hence why I asked.

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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!ninjaxmas
and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...

says who? btw Oblivion came out a year later on ps3, so it's suppposed to look better

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because its a problem that only exists in system wars.
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#33 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!EndorphinMaster

and bfbc, and mirrors edge, and FC2, and oblivion, and a few more...

says who? btw Oblivion came out a year later on ps3, so it's suppposed to look better

Yeah, and how is BFBC better on PS3? If anything it is the other way around?
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

It is common knowledge that the PS3 is a difficult to develop for platform, games that are not developed specifically for the PS3 tend to suffer in some way. So when you port a 360 game to PS3 there tends to be quality losses, which is why many developers are now using the PS3 as the lead platform to minimize this impact.

In fact I recall hearing somewhere that a PC Cell processor add-in card was in the works to make developing PS3 games easier.

True. I remember back in 2006/07 games on 360 would be superior to PS3 versions in some way, now not as many except FO3. But, if we think about it really, do we ACTUALLY look at every little detail in a gam so we can have fun playing it? I know I don't.
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The only Multiplatform that is truely superior on the 360 is Tony Hawk's Project 8 simply because the 360 version has online multiplayer and the PS3 version doesn't.
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#36 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

$$$$$$$$$$Timstuff

Please explain yourself.

M$ goes around developers and says "here, why dont you just forget about AA in the PS3 version?" while slipping a blank cheque in their pocket.

Lol, I'd like to see proof of THAT!
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#37 MortalDecay
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burnout says hi~!ps3_owns_360Wii
While games that were made on the PS3, and ported to the 360 look the same. Games made on the 360, and ported to the PS3 are garbage.
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#38 GeoffZak
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!MortalDecay
While games that were made on the PS3, and ported to the 360 look the same. Games made on the 360, and ported to the PS3 are garbage.

The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion would like to have a word with you.

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#39 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!GeoffZak

While games that were made on the PS3, and ported to the 360 look the same. Games made on the 360, and ported to the PS3 are garbage.

The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion would like to have a word with you.

The fact that the PS3 version of Oblivion came out a full year after the 360 version, giving them plenty of time to work on it, means nothing to you, I assume. I guess you have no excuses for all of the other multiplats?

I almost forgot. Bethesda released a patch for the 360, right after they released the PS3 version, which fixed quite a few bugs, and put it on par with the PS3 version

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#40 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]burnout says hi~!GeoffZak

While games that were made on the PS3, and ported to the 360 look the same. Games made on the 360, and ported to the PS3 are garbage.

The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion would like to have a word with you.

I could have sworn the DD was worst on PS3 :|
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#41 ZoomZoom2490
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never heard of ports?

and these multiplats are barely using the full potential of the ps3 hardware, just look at the ps3 exclusives for an example, they send multiplat games back a generation behind

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#42 ujjval16
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never heard of ports?

and these multiplats are barely using the full potential of the ps3 hardware, just look at the ps3 exclusives for an example, they send multiplat games back a generation behind

ZoomZoom2490
I have to disagree with you there, but only because of CoD4, Bioshock, and Fallout 3.
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#43 EndorphinMaster
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never heard of ports?

and these multiplats are barely using the full potential of the ps3 hardware, just look at the ps3 exclusives for an example, they send multiplat games back a generation behind

ZoomZoom2490

just because you say so doesn't make it true. sorry

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Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. -DrRobotnik-
No, because 360 is easier to program for, and its easier to get the effects working on screen than it is on the PS3. It has nothing to do with MS going 'hey guys, make our version better'. PS3 is a crappy gaming console.
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Because Microsoft is going for the "make our multiplat versions better than the competitions" approach, while Sonys sits away working on 1st party games. Phazevariance
No, because 360 is easier to program for, and its easier to get the effects working on screen than it is on the PS3. It has nothing to do with MS going 'hey guys, make our version better'. PS3 is a crappy gaming console.

Like i said in a later post, i thought this was about DLC and exclusive content. Not graphics and performance.
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I want to buy a PS3. The price is abit to high but its not the main factor in holding me back. Whats holding me back is why does the 360 versions always have to be so much superior ? I want to buy Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5 and Fallout 3 for PS3 but you know somehow the 360 version will always outclass it in some way. Look at the Fallout 3 score, or the user review of bioshock and so on.Are the 360 advantages real or over exaggerated?

The 360 while it is the cheaper console, when u add in everything you have to buy it just feels like a hassle. You have to get a hard drive if u get the cheapest model just to download demos and ect, you have to pay for online just to play other ppl, you have to worry about RROD, you have to buy a better controller if you want to have a fair chance at ppl in fighting games. Its always more money with the 360. :?

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about the user score thing its a persons rating i am sure that SAME person who rated say bioshock an 8 on ps3 will rate it 8 on 360 aswell the user score is what ONE PERSON THINKS and remember that THAT person does not have both consoles to review it on
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#48 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

says who? btw Oblivion came out a year later on ps3, so it's suppposed to look better

ninjaxmas
Yeah, and how is BFBC better on PS3? If anything it is the other way around?

when you kids play both versions of each game you can feel free to respond to my claims. untill then stfu. its been reported by many sources anyway...

I really love it when people on the internet call eachother kids when in all reality they don't have a clue who they are and what they look like. Now, tell me how BFBC, Mirrors Edge, and Far Cry 2 are better on the Playstation 3 than the Xbox 360. Since there are numerous sources I suppose you could link them. Lets also ignore the fact that Oblivion scored higher on 360 than PS3.
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#49 micky4889
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Most games are ported to the PS3 if PS3 was the lead it would have the better version
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[QUOTE="GameHog9"]

[QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]The differences are so small, practically negligible. I only see the difference when GS does these side-by-side comparisons. But if you play one game on a 360, and play the same game on the ps3, its not like the ps3 game is VASTLY inferior. Its usually like shadows or something like that. -DrRobotnik-

^This.

Occasionaly the PS3 version turns out better like Eternal Sonata or BioShock.

Sometime they turn out .013% inferior, but usually they pack in extra content to offshoot this :)

Works for me.

Bad examples. They turned out better due to the extra year of dev time (and while were on topic, was Bioshock better looking on the PS3? I still remember seeing that hideously textured Big Daddy)

What? Bioshock had a much lower resolution on the PS3 which is what gave the ps3 a fuzzy look. some will argue and say the textures are better looking on the 360 version, lol. In actuallity the textures are exactly the same. The lower resolution on the PS3 is what makes the 360 version superior. I do agree with farcry 2 looking better on the ps3 after being disappointed with the 360 version being all pixelated and those disgusting shadows, yuck. Technically the 360 version is supposed to be superior and actually is. One day people will figure out why the 360 version is superior but actually looks inferior and it has to do with the hardware choices, good but at the same time really bad.