Why doesn't Xbone aspire to have graphics kings?

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#51 cainetao11
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@SolidGame_basic said:

I think your post should be about why the X1 doesn't have any killer exclusives. I mean, counting on Quantum Break is pretty sad. Meanwhile, PS4 owners be sipping on gin and juice.

Well I am sipping on Bloodborne right now. But spare me that hype. There isn't all that much on this console that makes it what you think it is, imo.

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#52 slim70
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@Phreek300 said:

I will lay off the sarcastic fanboy comments and answer this one truthfully. I do not feel the Xbone has the graphical equipment to run a console graphics king. It however, has great looking games none the less. I do not feel like its so underpowered that it can't produce one. Depending on the engine used and the mastery of it by the developer. That being said, I won't hold my breath either.

Neither does the PS4 because to say that it does would mean that you're completely ignoring the PC which would unfair.

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First of all, I am not impressed by anything (exclusive) so far on the Ps4. The order is a blurry bordered post process'd piece of trash.

Secondly, wait for Rareware. But beyond that, Witcher 3 will be the best looking game on both consoles.

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#54 ReadingRainbow4
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@freedomfreak said:

Cuz it's a piece of shit.

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#55 SoftwareGeek
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Both are good consoles. Graphics are pretty close between the two. But the deal is Sony has good games. The XB1 has better games.

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#57  Edited By ProtossX
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Apart from Ryse, which was a launch title and a 3rd party timed exclusive, there haven't been too many games pushing the graphical limits of the Xbone. Depending on your cynicism level, you may argue that every single game pushes Xbone's limits, haha! It seems that the notion of "graphics king" is exclusive to PS4...I think same could've been applied to 360, too, whereas it was ironically more capable machine when it came to multiplats.

Anyway, while there have been some aesthetically pleasing games on the Xbone, like Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset Overdrive, they're nowhere near what this generation should stand for graphics-wise. Of course, on the other hand you may argue that it's more beneficial to gamers to put gameplay before graphics, and Halo 5 seems to be focused on that as well and I can definitely see the reasoning behind it, as I'd always put 60fps over 1080p.

However, there is also another aspect to it, certain games were overly focused at delivering the best graphics possible at the very expense of the gameplay itself, and among them are aforementioned Ryse, as well as The Order or Killzone: Shadow Fall.

FYI, this is just a theoretical conundrum, I don't necessarily believe a maniacal focus on delivering the best possible graphics is the way to go, however in many cases a powerful and capable graphics engine sporting sharp image quality can be beneficial to our immersion and overall enjoyment.

What are your thoughts?

[As a side-note I find it funny how some people try to typecast me and associate only with glorifying MS and bashing Sony.]

pc is the only system capable of beating the original crysis as graphics king

xb1 isn't powerful enough to do it

microsoft didn't plan on this gen pushing graphics and wowing people with games

they went for netflix an crap an just backfired nobody knows why

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#58 GreySeal9
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@Wiimotefan said:

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Sony plays on graphics, because it will sell them more consoles. Microsoft is all about gameplay, and the technical complexity of SSOD isn't to be taken lightly.

Nah, they're both the same and Sony just happens to have the better box. And even with Sonys penchant for high fidelity flops and movie games, they still have better game studios and a more robust 1st party as a whole.

lol @ trying to pull the sheep argument "all about the gameplay" when you don't even have the games to support such a claim. MS is at the bottom of the barrel with their 1st party, if you can even call it that.

Perfect response.

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#59 Allicrombie
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I hear they're doing great things with graphics in reality these days. I went to the store the other day, and holy crap, it looked just like a real store ! The dude at the register even remembered seeing me before! Haven't seen that level of interaction since Shadow of Mordor. Call me crazy, but I think this new reality simulator is gonna get at least a 9 from GS.

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#60  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@GreySeal9 said:

@Wiimotefan said:

@FastRobby said:

Sony plays on graphics, because it will sell them more consoles. Microsoft is all about gameplay, and the technical complexity of SSOD isn't to be taken lightly.

Nah, they're both the same and Sony just happens to have the better box. And even with Sonys penchant for high fidelity flops and movie games, they still have better game studios and a more robust 1st party as a whole.

lol @ trying to pull the sheep argument "all about the gameplay" when you don't even have the games to support such a claim. MS is at the bottom of the barrel with their 1st party, if you can even call it that.

Perfect response.

Not really. SSOD is perfect example where it's all about the gameplay, said by the developers themselves. Compared to DelayClub and The bOrder, which is all about gfx, and no substance. Like a pretty dumb girl practically, fun for 1, maybe 2 hours, then she is finished...

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#61 delta3074
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@Wiimotefan said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@Wiimotefan said:

Nah, they're both the same and Sony just happens to have the better box. And even with Sonys penchant for high fidelity flops and movie games, they still have better game studios and a more robust 1st party as a whole.

lol @ trying to pull the sheep argument "all about the gameplay" when you don't even have the games to support such a claim. MS is at the bottom of the barrel with their 1st party, if you can even call it that.

They understand business and handling franchises better than Sony, though. They shouldn't have allowed MCC disaster to happen, though.

Business? Sure. Handling franchises? How so? As far as I can tell the only franchise they've handled well is Forza.

are you trying to say they didn't handle the HALO franchise well?

How many SONY franchises are as big and as popular as Halo? which SONY franchise now covers EVERY Genre in entertainment, Comic books, Toys, Books, Movies and even LEGO.

Lets not even started on the fact that nearly every Halo game broke Sales records when it released and the Majority of them are AAA games.

HALO is a hugely Successful Franchise on Every level.

Personally i am sick of it to be honest but there is no denying the Fact that HALO has gone well beyond just being a games franchise it's become a worldwide phenomenon, my son plays with HALO lego my older Son reads HALO comics (can you see why i am sick of it now).

It's infuriating how popular the Master chief actually is and i wish that they had not jumped back to him so quickly, i wanted to see more games like Reach, i want to play other spartans on other planets and learn more about the universe and other characters and there stories.

The universe is massive with tons of potential so why are we always playing the Master chief, they have over used the character and i just don't care about his character anymore.

It's like being stuck in a little box in an infinite universe.

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did you see Halo4 on 360? unbelievable for the hardware. Wait for Halo 5.

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#63 delta3074
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@blueinheaven said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@santoron said:

@Salt_The_Fries: People associate you with MS and against Sony because you frequently support the XBox on here and have been spotted saying stuff like "I'll never buy anything Sony", for starters, or actually calling them an evil company. In other words, you're viewed by your posting history. Publicly distancing yourself from your own comments would be a good place to start if you want that to change.

As for the topic. I dunno, Forza horizons is a pretty good looking game, isn't it? And I imagine they'll be pushing their big franchises (Forza, Halo, Gears) as hard as they can throughout the gen. At the end of the day though we are talking about the weakest hardware this side of the WiiU. You're never going to be as impressed with its graphics as you would a PS4, or certainly any half way decent PC.

For me, that's not much of an issue. While its unquestionably weaker than the PS4, it's in the same ballpark. It can run the same games @ close enough to the same level that most of the time people not looking for it won't notice. If you want the best performance/graphics, neither comes close to a good PC.

I have given Sony credit when it's due, this month at least two times! On the other hand, I have criticized Microsoft a lot of times, even this week!

However, you have to understand that from a political perspective I'm someone who has forever been in the opposition to the mainstream. Here, on SW, even if you show indifference to the Xbone, you're bashed. You have to hate it (thus I have to be very militant to counter this bias, because VERY FEW PEOPLE TO DEFEND IT, and A LOT OF PEOPLE GIVE MISINFORMED OPINIONS and then NOBODY CORRECTS THEM) I've had a similar peer pressure when it came to buying a next-gen console in real life. Most people expected me to buy PS4 and there was a certain point during which I strongly considered it, but all in all I'm beyond glad I didn't make such a decision.

I read that twice to see if I could figure out WTF you are on about. Nope... nothing.

Hes basically saying that being Indifferent to the Xbox is not enough for you to avoid a Verbally abusive ,tongue lashing from SONY drones, Basically if you are not a SONY drone who praises the Playstation Brand and slates the Xbox brand on this board then you are Lemming, an Xbox Drone.

If you ,quite rightly Correct a SONY drone using Facts when they get something wrong you are automatically labelled a lemming even if you are just interested in Correcting there obvious ignorance and misinformation.

I am no Fan of either console but if i see somebody spouting obvious nonsense about either of them i WILL correct them and in my experience if i correct a cow i will be called a lemming but if i correct a Lemming they don't call me a cow.

Salt the Fries is NO xbox drone, he's one of the most grounded posters on here, he just doesn't like seeing Obvious BS which SHOULD be corrected and Acts accordingly.

the problem is, and say what you like, Xbox drones are Bad But SONY drones are on a whole new level, they defend there inanimate piece of plastic as if it is as vital as they Air they Breath, they take this system wars shit WAY too seriously and it's like defending SONY is there Mantra and way of life.

Quite Scary actually.

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#64 clone01
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I don't know. Honestly, its such a broad term, graphics. I like me a pretty looking game. Everyone does. I think TLOU and Uncharted are good examples of how you can make something that looks good and is fun to play. I do think that graphics start to weigh in so heavily with devs that they miss the point. Halo is a good looking franchise. Not the best. Its fun gameplay, though. And before you think I'm singling out any company, Sony has some fantastic games that aren't necessarily the best looking game out there. I really get a little sad when devs try to put emphasis on graphics yet ignore the other parts that make a great game.