Why doesn't Sony believe in 60 FPS games?

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#1 UnrealGunner
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PS4 Pro is revealed and we can see the PS4 is still going to be running games at 30 FPS even with the power increase of the new hardware. As far as I can see, they only care about graphics because if you look at their line up pretty much all of the games are 30 FPS. I can safely say now that Playstation will never have a decent line up of games that are 60 FPS it doesn't even matter how powerful the console is because Sony will only focus on how the games look and not on frame rates. This is the company that said they want to compete with PC lol.

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#2  Edited By Dakur
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Who needs 60 FPS in this day and age? Pro consoles don't care about fanboy stuff like that. Today is all about living the gamer life.

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#3 Beavis
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Well I think several of the 3rd party FPS and fighters run at 60FPS like Call of Duty, Street Fighter 5, Tekken etc.

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#4  Edited By silversix_
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Because they can't achieve it

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#5 Howmakewood
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60 is not cinematic experience

your eyes can't see past 30

30 is more relaxing

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#6 Dakur
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@howmakewood said:

60 is not cinematic experience

your eyes can't see past 30

30 is more relaxing

And stress causes cancer so Sony is actually saving our lives.

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#7 SuperFlyZero
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You got that wrong because I'm pretty sure most of us who will continue to game in 1080p will be able to have 60fps on our SP games.

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#8  Edited By quakeknight1991
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Sony is not the one to blame though. If you do not own a 4k TV the devs are free to use that extra power for other enhancements which include frame rate.

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#9 nepu7supastar7
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@unrealgunner:

SOME games run at 60 fps on the original ps4 already. Like:

Infamous Second Son

Last of Us HD Remaster

Star Wars Battlefront

Metal Gear Solid 5

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#10 UnrealGunner
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@silversix_ said:

Because they can't achieve it

They need to stop acting as if PS4 Pro offers a new experience for hardcore gamers when it is just the same as PS4 with just a few graphical enhancements

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#11 KEND0_KAP0NI
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Sony is fucking it up big time.

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#12 SuperFlyZero
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@unrealgunner said:
@silversix_ said:

Because they can't achieve it

They need to stop acting as if PS4 Pro offers a new experience for hardcore gamers when it is just the same as PS4 with just a few graphical enhancements

You've confused hardcore gamers with early adopters. Big difference because most gamers care more about performance than higher resolution.

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#13 NathanDrakeSwag
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Because the PS4 Pro is an underpowered piece of shit.

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#14 Draign
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@superflyzero said:

You got that wrong because I'm pretty sure most of us who will continue to game in 1080p will be able to have 60fps on our SP games.

You really think so?

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#15 darkangel115
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1) because they want to push graphics

2) most of their games don't benefit from it

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#16 Cloud_imperium
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Most people masturbate over flashy stuff with no substance so that is what they get; HD res and graphics. Controls and fps are compromised. Most people don't even know what frame rate is.

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#17 Howmakewood
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@killered3 said:

@unrealgunner:

SOME games run at 60 fps on the original ps4 already. Like:

Infamous Second Son

Last of Us HD Remaster

Star Wars Battlefront

Metal Gear Solid 5

Would honestly be better if it was locked at 30, does it even ever reach 60? it's mostly 30-40

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#18 Beavis
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The bottlenecked/underpowered CPU might have something to do with lots of games not being 60FPS.

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Sony fans believe the human eye can't see above 20 fps.

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#20 R4gn4r0k
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Sony hates 60fps and wants to strive for that cinematic 24fps that no other fps can accomplish.

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#21  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@howmakewood:

To be fair, it was at least around 50. Slowdowns were rare enough to disregard the frame dips. Either way it's pretty good for ps4's specs.

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#22 Howmakewood
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@killered3 said:

@howmakewood:

To be fair, it was at least around 50. Slowdowns were rare enough to disregard the frame dips. Either way it's pretty good for ps4's specs.

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#23 silversix_
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@beavis said:

The bottlenecked/underpowered CPU might have something to do with lots of games not being 60FPS.

yeah its kinda insane how they kept the same shitty cpu when everyone complained about it even on the original ps4 that came out in 2013. this rehash of the same cpu reminds me of Nintendo and their rehash of ancient spec from the Egyptian era.

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#24 jcafcwbb
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Does anyone really care about 60 fps??

Really???

Makes no difference to normal people.

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#26 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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This did not need a new thread.

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#27  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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The PS4 Pro can run at 60fps no problem. Blame the developers.

Sony is trying to put out a console that can still make them money. They aren't going to make a $800 machine that can run 1440p60 and be upscaled to 4k. That wouldn't sell.

The Scorpio won't be running stuff at 60fps at 4k upscaled either. If they go with some sort of an interlaced 4k upscaling solution, expect those games to run at 30fps as well, even with the Scorpio being more powerful. 4k60 takes a ton of horsepower.

Heck, only recently there are cards on the market for $200 that can do 1080p60 at modern fidelity levels. Sadly you can't put a $200 GPU into a console and sell it at $400.

If you really care about framerates and resolutions, you shouldn't be console gaming.