Why don't we call Xbox or Playstation exclusives exclusives anymore.

Yes I know people go on about the fact that a lot of these games are on PC now but seems a bit pedantic.

The simple truth is a that a huge chunk of console gamers still play the way the have been for years. They play solely on their console of choice and they only buy one console per generation. The types of people who buy multiple consoles are much more the exception than the rule. This means when we are talking about consoles then what is now laughingly called console exclusives still matter. The only game I played on PC was Football Manager 24 but since that has moved to consoles I play it there.

As far as I am concerned: Redfall, Starfield and the upcoming OD and Blade are Xbox exclusives.

FF7 Rebirth, ROTR and Wolverine are Playstation exclusives.

When you can only afford one console per generation the games you can play on that console matter. This includes the multi-plats but also the exclusives. The strange thing is that as long as I can play the games I want on my console I do not personally care whether it is exclusive or not. I know this is SW but the pedantry as to whether something is exclusive or not is puzzling, Whether something is console exclusive or not is still important a lot of gamers and not just for bragging rights.

Console exclusives.

Sorted!

As it's said before, its simply more correct to call them console exclusives.

Steam is massively popular all over the world so It cannot be ignored and most of those games are available in that platform.

I play on PC, and have been able to play all those "exclusives" for some time (Minus ghost of Tsushima sadly)

Not sure if anyone has noticed but the system wars as we knew the as children is dead. Games are mostly multiplatform at this point, which is great, and some companies, like Microsoft, don't even play the console wars game as thier emphasis is on services within the Xbox and pc space. They make nothing sacred in their stable and happily feed pc gamers who don't need to own an Xbox console.

Sony still largely operates as a traditional console manufacturer placing a premium on owning a console that plays games that possibly won't show up anywhere else. Microsoft hasn't done that for three generations. Two very different approaches to success in the business. Microsoft hedging it's bets that by owning ip and providing a service like XBL and Gamepass they will be well positioned for a console-less future. Sonys strategy is "buy a Playstation console to play our games..." right now that works for Sony, as their console sales indicate.

Over time these two waring ideologies will adjust as well.... Microsoft now owns studios that make the biggest games on earth and now has experiences that won't show up on Playstation consoles. This doesn't necessarily increase Xbox console sales, but it does feed people more and more reasons to have Gamepass and explore Xbox services. Sony on the other hand must continue to show that it's studios can deliver experiences not seen on Xbox... Something that's becoming more difficult every generation with bloated game budgets, less risk and diminishing returns on established ip.

It's a wild time.... The exclusive game is still very potent in the minds of consumers, but the way we game is changing and thus everything is in flux...

If a game is on PC and a console, it's not exclusive to the console. I have no idea why someone would feel better acting like it is.

Okay, but that doesn't make it less wrong. Those games are on PC too, thus not exclusive to Xbox. Not being on PS isn't the same thing as being exclusive to Xbox.

That's not strange at all. Making that statement after caring and making a thread about exclusives is pretty strange, though.

Why?

Nintendo will always keep the console wars alive with quality software and unique hardware. Xbox and PlayStation are both selling nearly identical AMD boxes and have 99% the same software. 🥱🥱🥱

@TheEroica: Very true. Some gamers are still holding on to the past with their lives😂. Most on here don't realize how much the market and players has changed. When the shift occurs there will be a rude awakening for some. "Back in my day" 👴

@Litchie:

Re: console exclusives - it helps differentiate the content catalogs.

PC and consoles aren't entirely a substitute for each other. Ex. A game that's on PlayStation and not on Xbox (or vice versa) can make a difference regardless if it's on PC or not. We've seen so many examples of that throughout the years whether it's Genshin Impact or FF14 or Roblox etc.

It gets a lot of push back on this board particularly I think as a hangover from the xbox/ps3 gen where xbox had a plethora of xbox/PC games and at the time PS3 was having a tough time, a whole host of cows decided to pretend that if a title was on PC/Xbox that was basically the same as it being on PC/Xbox/PS3 so those titles could be excluded from list wars, these days some of those very same users will include PS5/PC games in lists and get a bit salty when anyone calls out the hypocrisy. For me console exclusive is a perfectly adequate term to describe a title that only makes an appearance on one of the core consoles plus PC, basically don't sweat it, just a peculiarity of system wars.

@Litchie: To answer some of your questions:

Some people only have the time and/or money to run one of the three consoles. They also will not have the time and/or money to play on PC. This means the console they do buy will depend on the games they want to play being on a certain console.

An example of this is the Final Fantasy 7 reamke games. It is a Playstation console exclusive so that is one of the reasons why I continue buying a Playstation. Now if this game or a couple others became a Xbox console exclusive I would have to re-think this - as I have no interest in gaming on PC. But at the same time if FF7 had been mutli-platform I still would have bought the PS5 as it is still on the console. Understand the difference?

@Pedro: Not really.

I am an old git now and as you get older you understand that keeping up with the latest trends is pointless. I still like gaming and I continue to do it in the way I am happy to do it. There is a saying - the more things change the more they stay the same. What MS is doing with GP is changing the dynamic from a game being on a certain console to a game being on a certain subscription service. The medium may have changed but the method has not.

I think a company like Microsoft is also always looking 5 to 10 years out to be first positioned to lead in something... They're third in the way business is done right now.... Two other companies have a 15 year advantage to a global market and despite establishing some great games and services, in order for Microsoft to gain the lead they're gonna have to be "first to market" with the next thing in video games...

Microsoft is doing exactly what everyone who wants their to be more competition in video games to do.... Innovating to gain an advantage.

Just remember Pedro, the next time someone tells you you're gonna hurt the industry by wanting more open platform options and services and that companies operating on their own is "better for competition".... Those same people delivered you Gamepass on a silver platter. Companies evolve as to outdo the competition.

@TheEroica: Microsoft have done nothing innovative - all they have done is to copy existing things and have used their wealth to fund it. There were online stores and online subscription services before GP. Their model for GP is no different from the model for physical consoles save you pay a monthly fee rather than per item but that was already an industry thing - especially for movies, tv and music.

If you could stop kissing their rear-ends for a moment you will see that MS does not innovate but merely copies.

Not its First Party(lol) exclusives...lmao

Microsoft is literally responsible for console online gaming in the form you enjoy it today... Don't be silly. Sony and Nintendo were entirely hands off at the moment Xbox innovated the way we game on console.

You are clouded by a lot of bias to not give credit where it is due.

@ghostofgolden: Nintendo still think its the 90's and they're competing with Sega, that's how out of touch Nintendo is.

@jcafcwbb: Back in the 360 days, there was an entire category of games called "PC/360" - multiplats only on PC and Xbox 360. But, the cows complained to high heaven about there being "no such thing as a console exclusive!", so it was officially dropped by the System Wars channel (the crybabies won).

At that time, btw, the cut-and-paste response from cows was "I can play that on my PC!", which gave rise to the phrase "Every Playstation owner has a gaming PC."

It's ironic - fast forward 15 years, and cows are counting PS-PC games as "exclusives", and "console exclusives" are now a thing - hence GameSpot's moniker of "CowSpot".

Also, it was more clear cut when "System Wars" was called "Console Wars". GameSpot changed that to make the hermits happy.

Wut? Off the top of my head:

There would be no online console gaming like there is today without Microsoft.

Bungie, when they were part of MS, invented the control scheme for first person shooters via controller.

The Xbox was the first console with a hard-drive for storing game files.

The Xbox was the first console to offer storing your game saves in the cloud.

Yet they’re demolishing the competition in games and sales. I guess Sony and Microsoft should follow suit and join Nintendo in the 90’s then correct?

xbox was not the first console with a hard drive.

Bungie invented the controle scheme for FPS on consoles? Does this mean it was the first FPS for consoles ?

Your first point is just your opinion.

Yes, the original XBox was the first console to have a built-in hard drive. That is a fact.

Yes, the way you play FPS on a console today is because of the way Bungie make the first Halo. That is also true.

My first point is not my opinion, it is fact. Before the Xbox, console gamers were limited to 1v1 and maybe some co-op. The original XBox, with XBox Live, moved consoles into the same space as PC gamers when it came to online play.

I think when you start attaching a modifier to words that are essentially absolute in their meaning, they lose meaning.

So if something is exclusive, it should be exclusive to one thing: that is literally the definition of exclusive. If you're dating someone exclusively, then you swear off any other romantic relationships.

Nowadays however we attach the modifier "console exclusive" or "timed exclusive", and it's bullshit. The word has lost all meaning.

Now it's just a marketing exercise because stupid dipshit fanboys think exclusivity is actually a good thing or means something, so the stupid dipshit marketing executives make sure we all know it, even though the game isn't actually a true exclusive, it will only be on one console so you can still clutch to that...I guess?

It's like if you're dating someone and they say "Yeah honey, we are exclusive. Unless a celebrity comes around, then I might **** them". Well guess what? You're not exclusive. So you might as well just be open about it.

TL;DR: exclusives are dumb, and you're fooling yourself if you think you still have an exclusive title if it's on more than one platform.

Multiplatform is the way to go! Open up that market, baby! Let the people pick the best hardware/platform for themselves and not because a manufacturer locked down a developer to lock down their customers.

I agree.... 💯

@dabear:

Ah, switched to built in. Good good.

So you're saying the OG Halo had the best control scheme for a FPS? Ok, got it.

Your first point is absolutely your opinion. It's your opinion other companies wouldn't do what MS did.

Consoles were definetley not limited to 1v1.

I personally love the "timed exclusive" and "console exclusive" foot note for games now. It let's me know it's coming to PC (or another platform) right off the bat saving me from buying a console for one game I want to play. If someone has only one console preference they want to play that's fine, but PC is a massive market that can't be ignored and I like that Microsoft and Sony are in the market and let consumers know right off the bat that PC releases are on the docket.

People are looking for ways to differentiate each platform. The purpose of "exclusive" is for comparison's sake and terms like "console exclusive", "timed exclusive" etc. all help with that delineation. The definition can be as precise or vague as it needs to be.

Ex. "I want to play the Baldur's Gate 3 but, I can't play it on Nintendo Switch because it's a Gen 9 exclusive."

A "Gen 9 exclusive", as silly as it sounds, still serves a purpose. It tells you it's not on PS4 or Xbox One or Switch. Heck, it's more specific and useful than saying Baldur's Gate 3 is a multiplatform game.

I can't grasp why someone would cling to the limitations of a console so much instead of getting into personal computers that have most of the same games this generation. It's not just the inferior graphics and performance, but also lack of control/controller options, the crappy recording, paywalls to access multiplayer portions, paywalls to back up saves, the worry that your games will not be playable on the next system, the distracting fan noise that PlayStations make by packing so much hardware in such small sizes, how difficult or impossible it is to replace broken components (due to internals being made totally inaccessible by the way the metal is welded and parts being proprietary)... A crappy experience with few of the exclusives that made PlayStation special in the past, especially after they let their Japanese studios die. PlayStation is so fucking dull now.

Xbox is worthless. Has been for most of its lifespan.

You not grasping why says more about you than them.🤷🏽‍♂️

Has Pedro said an interesting thing ever?

Yes! That is why it is easy to spot ignorant comments like yours.🤷🏽‍♂️

@Pedro: Savage! 😂

The ultimate spammer.

I offer the same quality you are offering with fewer words.🤷🏽‍♂️

Who always needs to have the last word, no matter how useless.

Yes! We share something in common.🤷🏽‍♂️

In short, I would just go with "console exclusive" and call it a day.

So you are bending the knee to console fanboys?🙃

I wouldn't call the executives dipshits for exploiting fanboyism. Mainly because I would do the same.😂

Wasn't this settled? "Exclusive" meant exclusive to one system in SW, and console exclusive was kinda begrudgingly made for something that released on one console as well as PC.

As long as the game is coming to PC, I'm okay with that.

Of course I'll bend the knee...just for you Pedro:

No. 67k posts of brain dead XDF victim complex commentary.

Imagine Randy criticizing someone for defence of a corporation... That's probably all his posts.

inb4 Lemdy

The irony.😂

Lundy calls it... He's got the most posts here so he's our supreme court member.

Huge thumbs up for Lundy the Supreme leader!

Lundy is in Canada isn't he? I can't support that.

I would move to Canada if it wasn't so damn cold all the time and I don't do cold weather🥶

I found my post!

"Wanted to replace my PS4's thermal paste. The console is much too loud. It sits outside my room like a bad dog, connected with a long HDMI cable that goes under the door. Turns out you can't even replace the thermal paste without a goddamn soldering iron. Look at that cable laid across the plate. It's soldered on one side and fixed into some kind of perma-plug on the other. The motherboard plate also has the plate behind screwed in from the other side. I mean that those screws appear to be PART of that other plate. PlayStations are really uncivilized. Both dismantling videos I watched didn't go into taking off the motherboard plate. More convenient my butt."