• 54 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for jumangeemaster
jumangeemaster

52

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 jumangeemaster
Member since 2008 • 52 Posts

I was wondering how does that happen that NDS is so inferior to PSP in terms of performance, I would say that they are uncomparable, but the DS gets games that could have been executed on PSP way better and would have made more sense, like COD4 (I first thought it was a joke when I saw preorder), Resident Evil, Assasinss Creed,

For me it looks the same as anouncing a realese of Crysis for Wii or PS instead of X360 or PS3.

How does it work anyways?

Avatar image for HarlockJC
HarlockJC

25546

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#2 HarlockJC
Member since 2006 • 25546 Posts

Funny thing is that COD4 works pretty good on the DS got a 7.0.

There are three reasons why the DS is doing so much better than the PSP and getting the games. One is the number of systems on the market the PSP does not even have a third of the DS sales. Second the touch screen games for a lot better game play then it sounds. Third Nintendo it self because people enjoy Nintendo first party games more on handhelds than Sony's it helps keep people buying the DS over the PSP.

Avatar image for deactivated-5e836a855beb2
deactivated-5e836a855beb2

95573

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
Member since 2005 • 95573 Posts

Needs moar Layton.

The game arrives today! It better be as good as advertised, or I'm kicking ass and chewing gum.

Avatar image for Nero_Paladin
Nero_Paladin

1099

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Nero_Paladin
Member since 2007 • 1099 Posts
FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayable
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts

FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableNero_Paladin

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableVerge_6

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

Wow, two points I made in my original post. :|

And I wasn't saying that those reasons were why the DS was selling better. I said those reasons were what caused the sales of the PSP in and of itself to not seem nearly as well as those of the DS.

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableVerge_6

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

Wow, two points I made in my original post. :|

And I wasn't saying that those reasons were why the DS was selling better. I said those reasons were what caused the sales of the PSP in and of itself to not seem nearly as well as those of the DS.

Sorry, I saw the handheld friendly software argument and forgot about the rest of the post it seems. Self-owned myself there.

Avatar image for taker42
taker42

1614

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 taker42
Member since 2007 • 1614 Posts

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

TerroRizing
Funny stuff, both of my younger cousins got themselves a psp, 1 six year old, the other 7. Though I believe they pester their parents to buy because other kids got it, thus I predict the psps will be collecting dust before long.
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

Wow, two points I made in my original post. :|

And I wasn't saying that those reasons were why the DS was selling better. I said those reasons were what caused the sales of the PSP in and of itself to not seem nearly as well as those of the DS.

Sorry, I saw the handheld friendly software argument and forgot about the rest of the post it seems. Self-owned myself there.

It's cool. We all do it.

Avatar image for the_h_bomb
the_h_bomb

3182

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 the_h_bomb
Member since 2007 • 3182 Posts
because it's actually successful and DS owners aren't pirates
Avatar image for deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8

22399

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#12 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
Member since 2007 • 22399 Posts

because the DS has a bigger fanbase and the difference in power is neglgible :?

in my eyes anyways, theres not a lot of difference between the best looking psp game and the best looking DS game.

the touch screen and D-pad make fps easier than single analoug.

Avatar image for haris12121212
haris12121212

7560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#13 haris12121212
Member since 2004 • 7560 Posts
The games you named are high quality / high budget ones. Concentrating time to make it on PSP would simply not bring anything solid. (face it making a game for psp is like making a game for the ps2) as for the NDS, it got a huge fanbase, so the devs simply quick port for quick cash ins those games, and especially of DS' weak hardware they don't spend much time on making it.
Avatar image for haris12121212
haris12121212

7560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#14 haris12121212
Member since 2004 • 7560 Posts

because the DS has a bigger fanbase and the difference in power is neglgible :?

in my eyes anyways, theres not a lot of difference between the best looking psp game and the best looking DS game.

the touch screen and D-pad make fps easier than single analoug.

darkspineslayer
Ummm, dunno how to comment that... I actually can't believe it. Once Ninja Gaiden and God Of war come out, go compare them, you will si A LOT of difference between those 2 games graphic wise.
Avatar image for Deevoshun
Deevoshun

868

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#15 Deevoshun
Member since 2003 • 868 Posts

DS's biggest selling point for me was backward compatibility, there are a ton of games for the Gameboy system that I can purchase used through ebay.

Nintendo and other companies brought over some of their NES, SNES, and Playstation games to the DS (Donkey Kong, Castlevania's, MegaMan's, Mario's, Final Fantasy's, Dragon Quest's, etc.) for and oldshool 2D gamer like myself I consider it the greatest system ever made.

Price.

Avatar image for Sgt_Crow
Sgt_Crow

6099

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#16 Sgt_Crow
Member since 2004 • 6099 Posts
Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handheld
Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts

because it's actually successful and DS owners aren't piratesthe_h_bomb

Nintendo says they are.

Avatar image for Osafune24
Osafune24

242

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 Osafune24
Member since 2007 • 242 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts

Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handheldSgt_Crow

I actually think the PSP is better in every way shape or form. And how can more features be a bad thing? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you're stating yours as fact and some of your reasons dont make much sense.

Avatar image for Zenfoldor
Zenfoldor

1775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#20 Zenfoldor
Member since 2003 • 1775 Posts

I was wondering how does that happen that NDS is so inferior to PSP in terms of performance, I would say that they are uncomparable, but the DS gets games that could have been executed on PSP way better and would have made more sense, like COD4 (I first thought it was a joke when I saw preorder), Resident Evil, Assasinss Creed,

For me it looks the same as anouncing a realese of Crysis for Wii or PS instead of X360 or PS3.

How does it work anyways?

jumangeemaster

Easy. Nobody buys games on the PSP. Therefore, not many developers make games for it. As a result of that, most people who would still consider buying one, do so for its multimedia functions. It's not really a gaming machine.

The DS on the otherhand is widely popular. Graphics don't really matter on a handheld, but the DS having 2 screens worth of N64 graphics, and a touchscreen with really slick interfaces and controls for most games vs the PSP's terrible UMD system. There is just not comparison when it comes to gaming devices, the PSP has a smaller library, worse controls, no touch screen, bulky and delicate discs, and a dim future for upcoming games, comparitively that is. Also, the price for the DS.

The DS is lightyears ahead of the PSP in gaming, and THE only dominating force in the hardware and software industry. Hence sales.

However, don't fret, there are still some decent PSP games for the rare entheusiast, and you can always talk on Scype or listen to MP3's on your console.

There are people who thought Gamegear was better than gameboy, also. Don't worry, it's all opinion. Just don't expect anyone to actually buy a Gamegear, and expect everyone and their grandmother to have a gameboy. That's how it works.

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableOsafune24

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

Look at how well the wii is selling.

Avatar image for Zenfoldor
Zenfoldor

1775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#22 Zenfoldor
Member since 2003 • 1775 Posts

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handheldTerroRizing

I actually think the PSP is better in every way shape or form. And how can more features be a bad thing? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you're stating yours as fact and some of your reasons dont make much sense.

So, the PSP has a better library, controls and interface options? Cool, maybe the PSP2 won't have a touchscreen then, and it can get manhandled again in software and hardware markets. The DS is the dominant handheld and its too late for a comeback now, but the PSP wouldn't look so bad if some of these people buying it, remembered that it could also play games. Have you seen its software sales? Have you seen the DS software sales? Do you realize the vast difference? I mean, the DS is getting freakin' Dragonquest IX. How sure of the DS is square-enix? Ninja Gaiden, crap like that. It's all because of the pricetag, the touchscreen, and the userbase. That's how you win a console war. You don't do it with UMD discs, I'm sorry.

Avatar image for Zenfoldor
Zenfoldor

1775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#23 Zenfoldor
Member since 2003 • 1775 Posts

Look at how well the wii is selling.

TerroRizing

You have a point, the Wii is outselling everything by a lot. In Feb so far, its' outsold the PS3 4 to 1 in Japan. That's sick.

Avatar image for jumangeemaster
jumangeemaster

52

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 jumangeemaster
Member since 2008 • 52 Posts

Thanx for all the posts!

After analyzing them I agreed with couple of them and kin see the reason. Yes, there are more fans of DS of course and everybody mentioned it and somebody in his post mentioned that there for DS graphics those efforts are so much more less expensive to create a game like that. So combining those two we get: "Why spend lots of money on low number of holders while we can spend less money for more holders"Now it is quite clear to me.

Now, my personal opinion about the consoles themselves! I dunno what people are usually looking for in the games on handhelds but freaking DS is just bothering me. I seriously tryed to convince myself to buy it but it never worked. Anytime I played it whether at store or at friend's place i couldn't see any exitment. This platform is all about some chinese anime old-school crap, with some technological innovation. What I wanted always from a handheld is a hardcore real game experience. On PSP the widscreen and the feeling of playing actual PS2 game, exelent graphics speed everyhting and battery lasts 6 hours for me. Of course the analogue is a dowfall and the size of the thing itself is kind of big. But IMO those two platforms should really serve for different purposes, the DS more of a friendly thing for general public because they are great at those brain games, some pupy and cat girl games, and of course they are good at the Japanese or Chinese animee arcade games. But for full gaming experience no one can argue that PSP is so much better.

As the conclusion, it seems more reasonable to make low development cost games to DS but it just seems so wrong from a gamer stand point just take a look at those snapshots, it hurts to see it.

Resident for DS (love the blood in cubical shapes reminds me of rough 90's lol)

Oh wow this cross shaped fire is just amazing special effec this way too high-tech

Avatar image for Ontain
Ontain

25501

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#25 Ontain
Member since 2005 • 25501 Posts
[QUOTE="Osafune24"]

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

TerroRizing

Look at how well the wii is selling.

it's already about to outsell the GC. also 50% of the wii households make over 100k. I don't think price is the main draw for a large portion of the wii owners. it's the wiimote and social gaming. the oscars didn't had john stewart playing the wii because it was cheaper. it's because it would look more fun than if he was using a regular controller.

Avatar image for jumangeemaster
jumangeemaster

52

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 jumangeemaster
Member since 2008 • 52 Posts
My favorit one is the RE snapshot with cubical blood that reminds of a wolfenstein 3d that first 3d shooter ever, and the cross shaped fire on the gun in COD4 snapshot this is so early 90's that brings me touchy feeling nostalgia lol:)
Avatar image for deactivated-5e836a855beb2
deactivated-5e836a855beb2

95573

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
Member since 2005 • 95573 Posts

Dude. The battery in the DS lasts... forever, it feels like.

I didn't turn it on for months, and then I played it for 4 hours, without a hitch. Battery life matters more than you think.

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handheldZenfoldor

I actually think the PSP is better in every way shape or form. And how can more features be a bad thing? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you're stating yours as fact and some of your reasons dont make much sense.

So, the PSP has a better library, controls and interface options? Cool, maybe the PSP2 won't have a touchscreen then, and it can get manhandled again in software and hardware markets. The DS is the dominant handheld and its too late for a comeback now, but the PSP wouldn't look so bad if some of these people buying it, remembered that it could also play games. Have you seen its software sales? Have you seen the DS software sales? Do you realize the vast difference? I mean, the DS is getting freakin' Dragonquest IX. How sure of the DS is square-enix? Ninja Gaiden, crap like that. It's all because of the pricetag, the touchscreen, and the userbase. That's how you win a console war. You don't do it with UMD discs, I'm sorry.

Yes the ds sells well and has a touch sensitive screen. Games like Brain Age and Pokemon sell huge, although I wouldnt consider them great games. I wouldnt consider the ds lineup a great lineup altogether actually, I mean Zelda and Advance Wars are great games but mostly everything else is shovelware or feels like a rehash to me.

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Osafune24"]

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

Ontain

Look at how well the wii is selling.

it's already about to outsell the GC. also 50% of the wii households make over 100k. I don't think price is the main draw for a large portion of the wii owners. it's the wiimote and social gaming. the oscars didn't had john stewart playing the wii because it was cheaper. it's because it would look more fun than if he was using a regular controller.

Yeah, Im not sure I believe that number.

Avatar image for the_h_bomb
the_h_bomb

3182

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 the_h_bomb
Member since 2007 • 3182 Posts

Nintendo says they are.

TerroRizing

software sales say they aren't

that's why they're still making games for the DS

Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

Nintendo says they are.

the_h_bomb

software sales say they aren't

that's why they're still making games for the DS

They still make games for the psp as well...

Avatar image for the_h_bomb
the_h_bomb

3182

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 the_h_bomb
Member since 2007 • 3182 Posts

They still make games for the psp as well...

TerroRizing

why don't you name all the promising looking games that are scheduled to come out for the PSP?

and stick to exclusives

Avatar image for Osafune24
Osafune24

242

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 Osafune24
Member since 2007 • 242 Posts
[QUOTE="Osafune24"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

Look at how well the wii is selling.

And that somehow makes the price it's main selling point? Still, if price is such a major factor, why didn't the Cube win last time?

The price difference isn't that huge. If people can afford the DS, then it's more than likely they can afford the PSP. So if people truly wanted the PSP, they would save up for it. The DS is $130 and the PSP is $170. Is $40 really big enough to influence people's opinions that much?

Avatar image for Re5ident_Evil
Re5ident_Evil

210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 Re5ident_Evil
Member since 2007 • 210 Posts
I don't see PSP doing anything better than the DS other than playing old Nintendo games.
Avatar image for razu_gamer
razu_gamer

4131

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#35 razu_gamer
Member since 2006 • 4131 Posts
there are tonnes of reasons.
Avatar image for Lionheart08
Lionheart08

15814

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 24

User Lists: 0

#36 Lionheart08
Member since 2005 • 15814 Posts

Nintendo knows how to capture the market. With casual games, platformers, and other games that have stood the test of time (Pokemon) it's quite easy for the DS to capture the market. It cheaper and have the wider appeal.

The PSP is just as the name implies A "Portable Playstation". The PSP (game wise anyway) was made to cater towards fans of the franchises of Sony. Though the PSP has been improving their library, for the most part, it still lacks the casual games, making it less of an appeal than the DS. Not to mention the higher price.

Avatar image for darkIink
darkIink

2705

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37 darkIink
Member since 2006 • 2705 Posts
[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handheldTerroRizing

I actually think the PSP is better in every way shape or form. And how can more features be a bad thing? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you're stating yours as fact and some of your reasons dont make much sense.

So, the PSP has a better library, controls and interface options? Cool, maybe the PSP2 won't have a touchscreen then, and it can get manhandled again in software and hardware markets. The DS is the dominant handheld and its too late for a comeback now, but the PSP wouldn't look so bad if some of these people buying it, remembered that it could also play games. Have you seen its software sales? Have you seen the DS software sales? Do you realize the vast difference? I mean, the DS is getting freakin' Dragonquest IX. How sure of the DS is square-enix? Ninja Gaiden, crap like that. It's all because of the pricetag, the touchscreen, and the userbase. That's how you win a console war. You don't do it with UMD discs, I'm sorry.

Yes the ds sells well and has a touch sensitive screen. Games like Brain Age and Pokemon sell huge, although I wouldnt consider them great games. I wouldnt consider the ds lineup a great lineup altogether actually, I mean Zelda and Advance Wars are great games but mostly everything else is shovelware or feels like a rehash to me.

lol did u read zenfolder's post? DS gets f-ing DQ9! not a spinoff but number 9! Also Tales of Innocence, FFTA2, a K that is actually relevant to the story not about some unknown guys in armor, DQ 4,5,6 remakes, FF4, It's a Beautiful World (by the maker of FFvs13), Spore, Blue Dragon +, Sonic Chronicles (by Bioware), and more. The list goes on, and yet my PSP is getting GoW, FF7CC, and KH. After that? more useless racing and fps horrible ports, no thanks. PSP lost, accept it poeple.
Avatar image for TerroRizing
TerroRizing

3210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 TerroRizing
Member since 2007 • 3210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Zenfoldor"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]Because DS > PSP in almost every derpatment except for graphical power.
DS has BC, touchscreen, two screens, enough gaming features that matter (so no crap that a handheld shouldn't have) and a good library of games.
It's the superior handhelddarkIink

I actually think the PSP is better in every way shape or form. And how can more features be a bad thing? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you're stating yours as fact and some of your reasons dont make much sense.

So, the PSP has a better library, controls and interface options? Cool, maybe the PSP2 won't have a touchscreen then, and it can get manhandled again in software and hardware markets. The DS is the dominant handheld and its too late for a comeback now, but the PSP wouldn't look so bad if some of these people buying it, remembered that it could also play games. Have you seen its software sales? Have you seen the DS software sales? Do you realize the vast difference? I mean, the DS is getting freakin' Dragonquest IX. How sure of the DS is square-enix? Ninja Gaiden, crap like that. It's all because of the pricetag, the touchscreen, and the userbase. That's how you win a console war. You don't do it with UMD discs, I'm sorry.

Yes the ds sells well and has a touch sensitive screen. Games like Brain Age and Pokemon sell huge, although I wouldnt consider them great games. I wouldnt consider the ds lineup a great lineup altogether actually, I mean Zelda and Advance Wars are great games but mostly everything else is shovelware or feels like a rehash to me.

lol did u read zenfolder's post? DS gets f-ing DQ9! not a spinoff but number 9! Also Tales of Innocence, FFTA2, a K that is actually relevant to the story not about some unknown guys in armor, DQ 4,5,6 remakes, FF4, It's a Beautiful World (by the maker of FFvs13), Spore, Blue Dragon +, Sonic Chronicles (by Bioware), and more. The list goes on, and yet my PSP is getting GoW, FF7CC, and KH. After that? more useless racing and fps horrible ports, no thanks. PSP lost, accept it poeple.

It already has two GTA games, patapon, two Syphon Filter games, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, MGS, the real Final Fantasy Tacticts, and an Elder Scrolls game is coming out. I mean I could go on about the current lineup, but whats the point when people are just being ignorant. Theres a bunch of other psp games that dont have much info released just yet, such as a team ico project and a Devil May Cry game.

Avatar image for ogvampire
ogvampire

9210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 ogvampire
Member since 2008 • 9210 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Osafune24"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableOsafune24

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

You can't say price has much to do with it since the Gamecube was not only cheaper, but also more powerful than the PS2, but look at how well it sold.

Look at how well the wii is selling.

And that somehow makes the price it's main selling point? Still, if price is such a major factor, why didn't the Cube win last time?

The price difference isn't that huge. If people can afford the DS, then it's more than likely they can afford the PSP. So if people truly wanted the PSP, they would save up for it. The DS is $130 and the PSP is $170. Is $40 really big enough to influence people's opinions that much?

most likely cause it didnt play dvds

Avatar image for nintendo-4life
nintendo-4life

18281

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#40 nintendo-4life
Member since 2004 • 18281 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

it actually makes perfect sense, otherwise i would see good software sales on PSP :|
Avatar image for the_h_bomb
the_h_bomb

3182

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#41 the_h_bomb
Member since 2007 • 3182 Posts

It already has two GTA games, patapon, two Syphon Filter games, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, MGS, the real Final Fantasy Tacticts, and an Elder Scrolls game is coming out. I mean I could go on about the current lineup, but whats the point when people are just being ignorant. Theres a bunch of other psp games that dont have much info released just yet, such as a team ico project and a Devil May Cry game.

TerroRizing

Bwahahahaha that's the funniest thing i've read all day :lol:
Avatar image for darkIink
darkIink

2705

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42 darkIink
Member since 2006 • 2705 Posts
[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

It already has two GTA games, patapon, two Syphon Filter games, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, MGS, the real Final Fantasy Tacticts, and an Elder Scrolls game is coming out. I mean I could go on about the current lineup, but whats the point when people are just being ignorant. Theres a bunch of other psp games that dont have much info released just yet, such as a team ico project and a Devil May Cry game.

the_h_bomb

Bwahahahaha that's the funniest thing i've read all day :lol:

vaporware ftw! I suppose Duke Nukem PSP is coming next month as well? :lol:
Avatar image for the_h_bomb
the_h_bomb

3182

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#43 the_h_bomb
Member since 2007 • 3182 Posts

vaporware ftw! I suppose Duke Nukem PSP is coming next month as well? :lol:
darkIink

:lol:

Morrowind was cancelled a LONG time ago. The team Ico game was never in development and devil may cry was supposed to be revealed in 2006

Say hello to the PSP's killer lineup!

Avatar image for Fanboy_Slay3R
Fanboy_Slay3R

133

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#44 Fanboy_Slay3R
Member since 2008 • 133 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]FPS games don't work on PSPs because of the single analogue stick, i tried MOH and it was virtually unplayableTerroRizing

The lack of dual-analog sticks, plus the high price and lack of handheld-friendly titles, are what hurt the PSP. If Sony's going to make console ports the focus of the PSP's gaming library, they could at LEAST add another analog stick so said games could contorl like their console counterparts...

Such an inacurate argument. The ds sells better because it has a broader appeal and is cheaper. Example, how many six year olds have a psp as compared to a ds? Would you buy a six year-old a psp? Plus big names like Pokemon and Mario push handhelds. The whole more suited to handheld library argument is a garbage argument.

I agree with you. People might think it's a load of crap, but it's the truth whether you want to admit it or not!!!!

Avatar image for Gunraidan
Gunraidan

4272

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#45 Gunraidan
Member since 2007 • 4272 Posts
The PSP is better then the DS it has more AA's.
Avatar image for thepwninator
thepwninator

8134

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#46 thepwninator
Member since 2006 • 8134 Posts

Thanx for all the posts!

After analyzing them I agreed with couple of them and kin see the reason. Yes, there are more fans of DS of course and everybody mentioned it and somebody in his post mentioned that there for DS graphics those efforts are so much more less expensive to create a game like that. So combining those two we get: "Why spend lots of money on low number of holders while we can spend less money for more holders"Now it is quite clear to me.

Now, my personal opinion about the consoles themselves! I dunno what people are usually looking for in the games on handhelds but freaking DS is just bothering me. I seriously tryed to convince myself to buy it but it never worked. Anytime I played it whether at store or at friend's place i couldn't see any exitment. This platform is all about some chinese anime old-school crap, with some technological innovation. What I wanted always from a handheld is a hardcore real game experience. On PSP the widscreen and the feeling of playing actual PS2 game, exelent graphics speed everyhting and battery lasts 6 hours for me. Of course the analogue is a dowfall and the size of the thing itself is kind of big. But IMO those two platforms should really serve for different purposes, the DS more of a friendly thing for general public because they are great at those brain games, some pupy and cat girl games, and of course they are good at the Japanese or Chinese animee arcade games. But for full gaming experience no one can argue that PSP is so much better.

As the conclusion, it seems more reasonable to make low development cost games to DS but it just seems so wrong from a gamer stand point just take a look at those snapshots, it hurts to see it.

jumangeemaster

I will refute the bolded statements in order.

1) I do not see Mario, Zelda, or Advance Wars as Chinese, nor do I see Ninja Gaiden or CoD4 in such a light. Chinese and Japanese are very different.

2) Perhaps you should have gotten a console then? Handhelds are designed for games that are designed for handhelds, which are designed for games that are designed for handhelds, which are...Anyways, the point is that the PSP is, for all intents and purposes, a portable version of the PlayStation, while the DS is completely unique.

3) Wow. That is some really horrid stereotyping there. I do not consider Mario or Zelda to be Brain-trainers, dogs, or cats. They are true hardcore (how dare he say such a thing!) games. I would love to see you get all the stars in New Super Mario Brothers, get through the Fire Emblem DS game without losing a single character (when it comes out of course), get 10 wins in a row in Advance Wars multiplayer, or even make it past the first boss in Castlevania. The DS is decidedly not purely kiddy, even though it may have some of those games available for it.

Avatar image for nintendog66
nintendog66

2300

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 nintendog66
Member since 2006 • 2300 Posts

Thanx for all the posts!

After analyzing them I agreed with couple of them and kin see the reason. Yes, there are more fans of DS of course and everybody mentioned it and somebody in his post mentioned that there for DS graphics those efforts are so much more less expensive to create a game like that. So combining those two we get: "Why spend lots of money on low number of holders while we can spend less money for more holders"Now it is quite clear to me.

Now, my personal opinion about the consoles themselves! I dunno what people are usually looking for in the games on handhelds but freaking DS is just bothering me. I seriously tryed to convince myself to buy it but it never worked. Anytime I played it whether at store or at friend's place i couldn't see any exitment. This platform is all about some chinese anime old-school crap, with some technological innovation. What I wanted always from a handheld is a hardcore real game experience. On PSP the widscreen and the feeling of playing actual PS2 game, exelent graphics speed everyhting and battery lasts 6 hours for me. Of course the analogue is a dowfall and the size of the thing itself is kind of big. But IMO those two platforms should really serve for different purposes, the DS more of a friendly thing for general public because they are great at those brain games, some pupy and cat girl games, and of course they are good at the Japanese or Chinese animee arcade games. But for full gaming experience no one can argue that PSP is so much better.

As the conclusion, it seems more reasonable to make low development cost games to DS but it just seems so wrong from a gamer stand point just take a look at those snapshots, it hurts to see it.

jumangeemaster

Where the hell are you getting the "chinese/japanese anime arcade" crap thing? At least in my books, I've been playing since the SNES, gaming has ALWAYS been of a simple or deep story surrounding a character or group of characters with a destination or objective, that doesn't mean it HAS TO be an RPG or adventure, a first person shooter sets you a destination and of course you control your character like many other games, this is were the DS excels bringing ALL sorts of games and executing brilliantly them through a whole new way with the touch screen.

Gaming is NOT about having a the most media capabilities a piece of machinery can have, and that's were the PSP wants to go, I mean I buy a portable gaming console to play games not make calls or watch movies. All I hear of the PSP is "Look" I can make call with it!", " Look! I can surf the web!" or "Look I'm listening to the radio!" but never "Look" I playing a game".

Avatar image for jumangeemaster
jumangeemaster

52

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#48 jumangeemaster
Member since 2008 • 52 Posts

Ok guys, couple of points:

1) You said you don't the Japanese arcade crap i mentioned in DS?! Ok sorry I respect others for some it might not be crap but at least for me it is! And no take a look some names in Gamspot DS top ten list:

1) Bleach (absolute Japanese stuff)

2) Contra (good stuff but it is 2d classics)

3) Mario Party ( Are you serious I have been hearing that name since I could walk!!)

4) Chibi-Robo: Part potrol (maybe that game is a good game but the name just tells "WTF" and absolute Japanese)

5) WordJong (Japanese puzzle stuff)

5) Dragon Quest (Classic Jpanese stuff)

So now do you see where I am coming from! Like someone here said handheld games for hadhelds! Absolutely, you guys feel like you are playing a good character with a story running arounf those 2d little guys and playing touch screen it is fine with me if that what makes you happy! But The purpose of this post waa my rant about the injustice, that games like COD4 and Assassins Creed(even though that game sucked) and Resident Evil Should have been done for console that can deliver it better technicaly!

2) YES! You are right that PSP is just portable version of PS and DS is a unique thing. BUT THAT IS EXACLY THE POINT!!! If it is uniue then make those unique games for it like "CHIBI_ROBO: PARK PATROL" and let people play but this PSP a freaking PS thing then give the dmn thing PS games it deserves!

3) You said that you never heard people say that they actually play PSP but DS is for play, I can't agree with you! So are you trying to say that people playing great games like GTA franchise, Syphone filter are not as good of a players cuz this way too media advanced an they should be runing 2d amazing characters on DS and having fun trying to kill first Boss ??!!!

I might seem like an anti DS but I am actually not, it is not for me but doesn't mean it is not for everyone but all I am trying to say that if those big names should be primarily realeased on PSP, just show you what happened and could have happened

RESIDENT EVIL ON PSP WUOLD HAVE LOOKED LIKE THIS (PS2 snapshot)

IT is a PS2 snapshot but psp would have been the same

and just not as broken and cubical like this

Well and there is no close way to show what would have happened to COD4 on PSP but we can estimate by looking at othe PSP shooter snapshots like MOH

here we go

BUT IT WOULD NEVER LOOK SO DISGUSTINGLY BLURRY AND MISERABLE LIKE THIS

Forgive me

I hope you got what I was trying to say, you like DS it is choice I don't care I just like to enjoy the visuals and the engine but not the ****cs and plot and innovative touch screen

P.S. By the way somebody said that he would like to see me beating first boss in Castlevania and winning 10 battles in Advanced Wars and so on...Just take your time and think for a moment, PSP is not that old on the market, what do you think i was playing for handheld before?? Exactly, I was playing GBC and GBA and I bet tons of games on those things, so don't point fingers at me :)

PEACE!!

Avatar image for Tylendal
Tylendal

14681

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#49 Tylendal
Member since 2006 • 14681 Posts

It already has two GTA games, patapon, two Syphon Filter games, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, MGS, the real Final Fantasy Tacticts, and an Elder Scrolls game is coming out. I mean I could go on about the current lineup, but whats the point when people are just being ignorant. Theres a bunch of other psp games that dont have much info released just yet, such as a team ico project and a Devil May Cry game.

TerroRizing

Great games... for a console. Those don't sound like the sort of game that I would play on a five minute bus trip. Seriously, I'll be standing in line to ask a teacher a question, and I'll whip out my D.S. for the 40 seconds in the line-up. A PSP would maybe get you as far as the title screen at that time.

The D.S. is a handheld...

The PSP is a small console

Avatar image for yoshi_64
yoshi_64

25261

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#50 yoshi_64
Member since 2003 • 25261 Posts
to the CoD comments on DS... it looks much better in motion. I played the game and it doesn't look that bad. Sure it would no doubt look better on PSP, but the graphics aren't bad and the touch screen controls are far better... it's just a shame devs haven't made a FPS game on DS with WFC...