Why FF13 would sell 4 million copies GUARANTEED on 360 !!!

Numbers are from vgcharts 

Game J apan  America  Others  Total
FF7      3.93    3.09        2.70    9.72
FF10    3.02    2.74        2.19    7.95
FFVIII  3.64    2.34        1.88    7.86
FFIX     2.80    1.66        0.84   5.30
FFX-2   2.41    1.82        0.98   5.21
FFXII    2.42    1.68        0.84   4.94

Sums    18.20   12.60     9.50   

So in the rest of the world FF games sold about 22 million copies and in Japan about 18 million, which is 4 million more worldwide

CLEARLY with 3x the install base and 3x the attach rate, if FF13 sold 1 million copies worldwide, 360 would sell
500.000x3x3= 4.5 million copies, and i cut 500.000 just because we assume PS3 sold half its million in Japan as the numbers above show, and supposedly 360 would not sell on copy there

I think a FFXIII spin off would sell far better on the Wii than on the 360. FF is a Japanese franchise and it doesn't really make that much sense to put it on the 360, especially after the low sales of FFXI on the console.

It wouldn't sell poorly mind you. I'd just expect it to sell a lot more on the PS3.

That's nice.

But there's still little chance of it going to 360. 

I think a FFXIII spin off would sell far better on the Wii than on the 360. FF is a Japanese franchise and it doesn't really make that much sense to put it on the 360, especially after the low sales of FFXI on the console.

It wouldn't sell poorly mind you. I'd just expect it to sell a lot more on the PS3.

the-very-best

I respect and agree with this guy. SE has given Nintendo a great blessing with thier support. 

I think a FFXIII spin off would sell far better on the Wii than on the 360. FF is a Japanese franchise and it doesn't really make that much sense to put it on the 360, especially after the low sales of FFXI on the console.

It wouldn't sell poorly mind you. I'd just expect it to sell a lot more on the PS3.

the-very-best

Is there a reason why you say this or just bias? You do know that 360 owners buy good games. ALOT. Unless you think 360 owners have never played FF before. 

I think a FFXIII spin off would sell far better on the Wii than on the 360. FF is a Japanese franchise and it doesn't really make that much sense to put it on the 360, especially after the low sales of FFXI on the console.

It wouldn't sell poorly mind you. I'd just expect it to sell a lot more on the PS3.

the-very-best

well look at the chart FF makes just as much money in america as in japan so why would there be no point in it releasing on the 360 it would sell just as well in fact it would steal sales from the ps3 version and its well known that FF11 is one of the worst FF games. i mean you cant base how a FF game would do on a console off of that crap game

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

Notice the trend as the games get worse so do the sales.MrGrimFandango

Haha, hey... you're right. 

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

greg_splicer

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

hustler_151

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

Because they could play it on a 360 for dirt cheap (the costs nothing in Japan) with better graphics. 

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

hustler_151

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

You mean that the 20 million 360 users will all have a PS3 too ???

BTW 360 version would have amazing vivid colors (not washed out), and 2x the texture resolution, i would definatly only buy the 360 one

[QUOTE="hustler_151"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

greg_splicer

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

You mean that the 20 million 360 users will all have a PS3 too ???

BTW 360 version would have amazing vivid colors (not washed out), and 2x the texture resolution, i would definatly only buy the 360 one

i meant the people in japan. and where did u get 20 million? i thought it was 10

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="hustler_151"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game Japan America Others Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1 0.00 1.46 0.49 1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2 0.00 0.86 0.34 1.20
Oblivion 0.00 1.06 0.57 1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 0.00 1.36 0.47 1.83
Fable 0.00 1.95 0.65 2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

hustler_151

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

You mean that the 20 million 360 users will all have a PS3 too ???

BTW 360 version would have amazing vivid colors (not washed out), and 2x the texture resolution, i would definatly only buy the 360 one

i meant the people in japan. and where did u get 20 million? i thought it was 10

Its called thinking ahead (to the time the FF game is released). Face it, FF will be forced to come out on the more powerful userbase.

I think a FFXIII spin off would sell far better on the Wii than on the 360. FF is a Japanese franchise and it doesn't really make that much sense to put it on the 360, especially after the low sales of FFXI on the console.

It wouldn't sell poorly mind you. I'd just expect it to sell a lot more on the PS3.

the-very-best

At this rate, an FF XIII spinoff on Wii might outsell FF XIII on PS3.  Regardless, I don't think the TC was talking about a spinoff, he was talking about the main game.  I agree with you that the game would sell better on PS3, and since it won't come to 360 this is just speculation anyway, but I do think a 360 version of the main FF XIII game would sell at least 2.5 mil, which would be more money in Square's pocket.  Again though, I know it isn't happening, like you said FF is a Japanese series and the 360 sells worse than dog crap there.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="hustler_151"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

hustler_151

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

You mean that the 20 million 360 users will all have a PS3 too ???

BTW 360 version would have amazing vivid colors (not washed out), and 2x the texture resolution, i would definatly only buy the 360 one

i meant the people in japan. and where did u get 20 million? i thought it was 10

what about oblivion?

what about oblivion?

hustler_151

2x better textures in towns and rocks and armor on 360, better AF on PS3 but worst HDR and no AA, well i would go for the crisper 360 with the AA too, than some better AF, that is a DEFINATLY, and the PS3 washed out colors do not help either

Plus Shivering Isles looks AMAZING, far far surpasses anything we have seen from oblivion graphically in both 360 and PS3, and is still only on 360

do you have a PS3 or are you just getting your facts from things you've read?

do you have a PS3 or are you just getting your facts from things you've read?

hustler_151

www.gametailers.com, the rocks are DEFINATLY blurry on PS3, the ground in town flat, and not 3D as on 360, AA is clearly worst from vids+pics+reviews, and the color problem has been reported as well

Point is, the PS3 game got one year makeover of the engine, 360 did not, and Shivering Isles that got the upgrade looks 2x better even than 360 already amazing version, so 360 capabilities are FAR from reached too

i still have huge doubts about it touching the 360, but ys it'll sell well. even if most of those copies sold are people who have never played any FF before, but want to know what all the hype is about. and of course those who only have a 360 but love FF games. i doubt 10 million gamers would just shun an FF title (the main series) on their system.Kook18

It's obviously not going to be on the 360, I think we all know that. I don't even know if the 360 will get a spinoff.

[QUOTE="hustler_151"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="hustler_151"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Here are now some numbers of how great RPG's sell on xbox

Game                                                    Japan   America  Others   Total
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 1          0.00      1.46      0.49      1.95
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic 2          0.00      0.86      0.34      1.20
Oblivion                                                 0.00       1.06      0.57     1.63
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind                       0.00        1.36     0.47     1.83
Fable                                                    0.00        1.95     0.65      2.60

See now, even the unknown games enjoy a HUGE number of sales, imagine what FF13 will do

Also Blue dragon move about 100.000 consoles Japan, so i expect FF13 would move more than 500.000 combined with games
like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infnite Undiscovery, Circle of Doom that will already be out

greg_splicer

why would they buy a 360 for FF if they can already play it on their PS3?

You mean that the 20 million 360 users will all have a PS3 too ???

BTW 360 version would have amazing vivid colors (not washed out), and 2x the texture resolution, i would definatly only buy the 360 one

i meant the people in japan. and where did u get 20 million? i thought it was 10

wow, just wow, you sir win the award for blind fanboy of the year. Why do you want FF so much, I thought Lems was happy with Mass Effect. Guess you guys don't lilke it as much as you put on, otherwise, Lems wouldn't care about final fantasy. And LOL at "2x better graphics" In case you've been sleeping under a rock with your fanboy goggles on, heres what you missed. PS3 has many multiplats that're graphically better on PS3. Like FNR3, NFSC, NBA2K7, Tiger Woods 07, Ridge Racer, and Oblivion. Just so you know, PS3 will soon have all the best multiplats because devs are making PS3 version first, then port to 360. Just stop it with your 360 fetish, its getting annoying. Since 360 has a crappy line up coming, you're stitting here making threads about your wet-dreams of having FF on 360. Keep Dreaming. LOL, hey, its not a total loss, you still get the MMO Final Fantasy. And LOL at you thinking FF would sell well on 360. 360 has next to no RPG fanbase, and the RPG fanbase it does have likes Western RPGs not Japanese RPGs, so that throws your little theory in the garbage. Have fun posting  360-loving-non-sense.

[QUOTE="Kook18"]i still have huge doubts about it touching the 360, but yes it'll sell well. even if most of those copies sold are people who have never played any FF before, but want to know what all the hype is about. and of course those who only have a 360 but love FF games. i doubt 10 million gamers would just shun an FF title (the main series) on their system.Gamer46

It's obviously not going to be on the 360, I think we all know that. I don't even know if the 360 will get a spinoff.

way to give a link to gametailers.com. and if you had both you would think differentlyhustler_151

I doubt, the rocks/trees clearly have lower res textures on PS3, unless you have both and know for a fact this is not the case

Anyway, that was one game, if you look at the others, 360 destroyes PS3 in graphics, the latest Splinter Cell and fear prove that PS3 just would never surpass any 360 game if both were done right

360 gamers like WRPGs more then JRPGs, this is fact. Oblivion barely sold 1.5 mil on 360. So what makes you think FF will sell well on 360. FF 11 sure didn't, and that was an MMO, a game genre thats more popular with Xbox gamers than JRPGs. Lemmings are excited about Mass Effect and Fable 2. Most of them couldn't care less about FF13. /thread. SilverGamer99

[QUOTE="hustler_151"]way to give a link to gametailers.com. and if you had both you would think differentlygreg_splicer

I doubt, the rocks/trees clearly have lower res textures on PS3, unless you have both and know for a fact this is not the case

Anyway, that was one game, if you look at the others, 360 destroyes PS3 in graphics, the latest Splinter Cell and fear prove that PS3 just would never surpass any 360 game if both were done right

sloppy ports made by crappy developers ubisuck is known for there bad ports.

Numbers are from vgcharts

Game J apan America Others Total
FF7 3.93 3.09 2.70 9.72
FF10 3.02 2.74 2.19 7.95
FFVIII 3.64 2.34 1.88 7.86
FFIX 2.80 1.66 0.84 5.30
FFX-2 2.41 1.82 0.98 5.21
FFXII 2.42 1.68 0.84 4.94

Sums 18.20 12.60 9.50

So in the rest of the world FF games sold about 22 million copies and in Japan about 18 million, which is 4 million more worldwide

CLEARLY with 3x the install base and 3x the attach rate, if FF13 sold 1 million copies worldwide, 360 would sell
500.000x3x3= 4.5 million copies, and i cut 500.000 just because we assume PS3 sold half its million in Japan as the numbers above show, and supposedly 360 would not sell on copy there

greg_splicer

your stats show ff12 sold 2.4million out side japan so how did you reach your dreamy figure of ff13 would sell 4million on the xbox360? trust me when ff13 is out there will be close to as many ps3's in homes then xbox360's and ff13 will be bought mainly on the ps3 world wide. and only on the ps3 in japan. i have all consoles and stay quite mutual but this is quite a weak attempt at a topic. 

i do have both. thats why i am making un biased statements.hustler_151

So, how are textures on PS3 ? Are they same, or worst ? And i am not referingto the AF, the near texture detail

How about the colors, are they same on the same saturation setting of the tv ?

[QUOTE="hustler_151"]i do have both. thats why i am making un biased statements.greg_splicer

So, how are textures on PS3 ? Are they same, or worst ? And i am not referingto the AF, the near texture detail

How about the colors, are they same on the same saturation setting of the tv ?

we'll let you know when we see some games that take advantage of the PS3 hardware.  no game launched thus far has the texture prowess of anything like Kameo, Gears or PDZ...but that doesn't mean they aren't coming.  Lair should impress.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Numbers are from vgcharts

Game J apan America Others Total
FF7 3.93 3.09 2.70 9.72
FF10 3.02 2.74 2.19 7.95
FFVIII 3.64 2.34 1.88 7.86
FFIX 2.80 1.66 0.84 5.30
FFX-2 2.41 1.82 0.98 5.21
FFXII 2.42 1.68 0.84 4.94

Sums 18.20 12.60 9.50

So in the rest of the world FF games sold about 22 million copies and in Japan about 18 million, which is 4 million more worldwide

CLEARLY with 3x the install base and 3x the attach rate, if FF13 sold 1 million copies worldwide, 360 would sell
500.000x3x3= 4.5 million copies, and i cut 500.000 just because we assume PS3 sold half its million in Japan as the numbers above show, and supposedly 360 would not sell on copy there

magrappy

your stats show ff12 sold 2.4million out side japan so how did you reach your dreamy figure of ff13 would sell 4million on the xbox360? trust me when ff13 is out there will be close to as many ps3's in homes then xbox360's and ff13 will be bought mainly on the ps3 world wide. and only on the ps3 in japan. i have all consoles and stay quite mutual but this is quite a weak attempt at a topic. 

There are so many logical error to your post, i do not know where to start

1. If PS3 keep selling like that, will always be 10.000.000 machines behind PS3, especially since 360 will pick up with games of FF13 caliber far far before PS3 gets that one system seller

2. You suggest that ALL 360 owners will have a PS3 !!! Does that seem logical ? So, even if 10.000.000 have a PS3 as well, and do prefer the PS3 version of FF13 that will look 2x worst than 360 one with usual mediocre textures, threre will be still 10.000.000 360 ONLY users to buy the game, right ???

Without Japanese support for the 360, the PS3 version will sell better... guaranteed.

Of course, there's no FFXIII for the 360, yet... so right now they will sell less than 1.

Can somebody explain where I can find those numbers on vgcharts?

Thanks. 

Without Japanese support for the 360, the PS3 version will sell better... guaranteed.

Of course, there's no FFXIII for the 360, yet... so right now they will sell less than 1.

TDLlama

No, even without japan, 360 would sell far more, just because it has a huge install base and a HUGE game attach rate

ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME?! How in the hell do you think that Final Fantasy would sell fine on the 360 without Japanese support?!?! You are the most illogical worst fanboy ive ever met! Just get off the gamefaqs and have fun with ur 360 knowing you will never get to play final fantasy on it.

ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME?! How in the hell do you think that Final Fantasy would sell fine on the 360 without Japanese support?!?! You are the most illogical worst fanboy ive ever met! Just get off the gamefaqs and have fun with ur 360 knowing you will never get to play final fantasy on it.

stophatinonprey

You really seem illogical

You suggest that US and European gamers will wait to see if japanese gamers will buy the game on 360 ???

All i know is ... 20.000.000 360 gamers worldwide = 3-4 million sales for FF13 on 360, how on earth you can counter that because 360 is low in japan ONLY, is beyond me