Why gears of war b**** online

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#1 Friendlyfire53
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    HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game.  which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room.  another problem people quit because the host is dominating.  which leads to the next problem.  a team has host advantage plus 3v4.  Ruins the online.  so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.
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#2 Hammerofjustice
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HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Friendlyfire53
xbox live is great.
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#3 Danm_999
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HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Friendlyfire53
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?
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#4 Friendlyfire53
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[QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Danm_999
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

and i have control of that?
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#6 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Friendlyfire53
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

and i have control of that?

Yes, by ignoring moody jerks, keeping a friends list and setting your Gamertag to Pro.
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#7 Friendlyfire53
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[QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Danm_999
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

and i have control of that?

Yes, by ignoring moody jerks, keeping a friends list and setting your Gamertag to Pro.

it is on pro and i play ranked matches. i have no choice of who i play with. host advantage is real i hate when people say it's just an excuse. you go host a match and see how many extra kills you get
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[QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Danm_999
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

then he might as well move to PSN or PC :lol:
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#9 Baird-06
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This is in every online game. :|
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#10 Darkslayer16
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on gears the host can win 1vs4 and kill you in 1 shot with a shotgun from like 20feet away
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#11 Friendlyfire53
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This is in every online game. :|Baird-06
nope. a HUGE host advantage is not noticable in any other game on live.
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#12 Tiefster
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This is in every online game. :|Baird-06


Not every online game.  I've never had a constant host advantage in any game but I have had people quit on me and in larger games like Resistance and Battlefield or even Halo it sucks really when it becomes 8 v 2 or 16 v 7.  Skill is needed to get you out of these situations or make the best of them and one way to do that is by joining a decent clan that communicates with one another.
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#13 CPM_basic
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Please tell someone else who cares... I bet you're one of those people on gears who cries "host" every single round. Like other people in this thread I beat the host on a regular basis. Host advantage is in EVERY online game, but it's not as big of an advantage as you think... it's probably that you're just not that good. And another thing, host gets a crapload of blood on his screen in gears, something that isn't done in other online fps's. So stop crying.

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#14 major_silva
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I disagree, on Halo 2 the host shotty is often the deciding factor in small games, and the host BR on the hands of even a skilled player is absolute destruction. I got host a couple times on BTB Slayer and I was amazed at how many times I managed to 4 shot people. Not to mention the sticky grenades are pin point accurate, if you know how to throw them well. But yea, host advantage on Gears is pretty noticeable, especially when 80% of the fighting involves shotguns. The thing I like about Gears though is that it's really easy to lay traps and feign moves. I went behind a car once after a long sprint and then immediately ran back the way I came to shoot and disintegrate the host, who was hot on my heels. The best game for connections would have to be BF:2. Though I don't own the game, I play the demo often and at the real thing at a friend's house. There is no host advantage so everyone is almost equal. I say almost because there are variations in how far away people live from the servers. Still, it's very fair and rarely laggy, even in a 24 player war.
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#15 GeneralZ0d
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Please tell someone else who cares... I bet you're one of those people on gears who cries "host" every single round. Like other people in this thread I beat the host on a regular basis. Host advantage is in EVERY online game, but it's not as big of an advantage as you think... it's probably that you're just not that good. And another thing, host gets a crapload of blood on his screen in gears, something that isn't done in other online fps's. So stop crying.

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Host advantage is in every online game except those run on dedicated servers. Thankfully most PC games allow dedicated servers to be setup which allows more players and more importantly no host advantage of any kind as there is no host. That is what sucks about XBL.
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#16 pundog
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[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

Please tell someone else who cares... I bet you're one of those people on gears who cries "host" every single round. Like other people in this thread I beat the host on a regular basis. Host advantage is in EVERY online game, but it's not as big of an advantage as you think... it's probably that you're just not that good. And another thing, host gets a crapload of blood on his screen in gears, something that isn't done in other online fps's. So stop crying.

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Host advantage is in every online game except those run on dedicated servers. Thankfully most PC games allow dedicated servers to be setup which allows more players and more importantly no host advantage of any kind as there is no host. That is what sucks about XBL.

You can set up dedicated servers for some 360 games (like R6:V) but I really haven't noticed a host advantage in any games, at least not on the level that it makes a game completely unfair.
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#17 F-Minus
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You can set up dedicated servers for some 360 games (like R6:V) but I really haven't noticed a host advantage in any games, at least not on the level that it makes a game completely unfair. pundog


Hm.. as I don't have a 360, I'm interested of how a dedicated server works there. Are you unable to play the game on the console when you set up a dedicated server? Or do you create a server and then connect to it so you're actually running the server and the client on the same console? I'm not into bashing :) So if anyone can explain it to me.
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#18 pundog
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[QUOTE="pundog"]You can set up dedicated servers for some 360 games (like R6:V) but I really haven't noticed a host advantage in any games, at least not on the level that it makes a game completely unfair. F-Minus


Hm.. as I don't have a 360, I'm interested of how a dedicated server works there. Are you unable to play the game on the console when you set up a dedicated server? Or do you create a server and then connect to it so you're actually running the server and the client on the same console? I'm not into bashing :) So if anyone can explain it to me.

I think its the first one (where your 360 is the server) but I could be wrong. I don't know why you would though, I know in R6:V there isn't a big host advantage.
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#19 GeneralZ0d
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[QUOTE="pundog"]You can set up dedicated servers for some 360 games (like R6:V) but I really haven't noticed a host advantage in any games, at least not on the level that it makes a game completely unfair. F-Minus


Hm.. as I don't have a 360, I'm interested of how a dedicated server works there. Are you unable to play the game on the console when you set up a dedicated server? Or do you create a server and then connect to it so you're actually running the server and the client on the same console? I'm not into bashing :) So if anyone can explain it to me.

Also interested in how dedicated servers work on XBL. Did not know you could set them up on standard games.
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#20 pundog
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[QUOTE="F-Minus"][QUOTE="pundog"]You can set up dedicated servers for some 360 games (like R6:V) but I really haven't noticed a host advantage in any games, at least not on the level that it makes a game completely unfair. GeneralZ0d


Hm.. as I don't have a 360, I'm interested of how a dedicated server works there. Are you unable to play the game on the console when you set up a dedicated server? Or do you create a server and then connect to it so you're actually running the server and the client on the same console? I'm not into bashing :) So if anyone can explain it to me.

Also interested in how dedicated servers work on XBL. Did not know you could set them up on standard games.

I know in Rainbow Six Vegas you can select the option when you create a game to create a dedicated server. My understanding is if you do you can't play in the game or do anything else with your 360 (except for use the xbox guide button features). Not really practical for anyone except for tournaments and that would probably involve Ubi using their own servers anyway.
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#21 white_sox
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If you complain about it that much, why don't you host then?
 
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#22 Sovereign727
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This is in every online game. :|Baird-06
Not every, its just a flaw of not having a dedicated server..
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#23 Narwaffle
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[QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Danm_999
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

How can he avoid playing with himself?
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#24 CuDDKiDD
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Friendlyfire53"] HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Narwaffle
Maybe don't play with temper tantrum 14 year olds?

How can he avoid playing with himself?

A little self control and maybe a friend :wink:

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I know it's there, but I never really notice it. I seem to be able to kill everyone and indeed have recently had a couple of team kills.

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#27 AirGuitarist87
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I've stopped playing Gears online, and I've been playing it less then a month (got free month of Gold membership). So many people take it seriously, even on unranked player matches. I've even been kicked off a few games cus I wasn't getting enough (any) kills in. It's only my opinion (keep this in mind, opinion) but I prefer playing Mario Kart DS over wi-fi.
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#28 trix5817
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HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Friendlyfire53


You play games for achievment points? Wow, that is sad? What ever happened to pur fun and enjoyment? A game should never feel like a chore when you play it.......
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#29 shungokustasu
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HOST ADVANTAGE. the host is the dominator of a game. which leads to the next problem. people fighting for the host team and if they don't get it they leave the room. another problem people quit because the host is dominating. which leads to the next problem. a team has host advantage plus 3v4. Ruins the online. so glad i almsot have all the achievements so i can be done.Friendlyfire53
This belongs in the Xbox360 thread. Notice how no one mention it? It's because SW is the Xbox360 thread. lol
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#30 HarryCrackage
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Meh...I've never noticed a host advantage. This isn't to say that there isn't one, mind you. I just haven't noticed. My only complaint with GeOW online is the lack of game modes, honestly. A little CTF could really extend the replay value IMO.
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#31 hunters0
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i actually played a game today (Ranked, execution) where the host left in the third round cos he was being owned and his team was aswell, and my team was 1 person down so he just canceled the game when he died in the third round as he was ****
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#33 mmogoon
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I agree this is why i wont play Gears anymore