Why hasn't conduit had the same lasting effect as lair and too human

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#1 nhh18
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It sold 30,000 in first month and 6.5 at gamespot. In terms of sales, it sold less than Lair, and Too human its first month. I mean this game is the biggest commerically flop game, and critically flop game too.

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#2 Evolved_One
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Because making fun of the Wii gets boring after a while.
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#3 Legendaryscmt
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Because Lair and Too Human weren't higher than a 6.5.

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#4 aero250
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Because Lair and Too Human weren't higher than a 6.5.

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Pretty much this.
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#5 santoron
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Because only the most obviously mindless sheep were hyping the game to begin with.

It's failure had less of an impact because it was more expected.

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#6 ActicEdge
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Lair and Too Human scored lower and the conduit sold 72k in NA for its firs month. Do I get a cookie now?

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#7 thegamemonkey
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Because everything in the Conduit has been done before.

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#8 -Pred-Alien-
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Too Human was only hyped by Cows. Lemmings abandoned it after E3 06
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#9 flazzle
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Because contrary to popular belief, Conduit was hyped here much beyond a 7.5. If you look at the scores of the Official Sticky in the Wii forum, predicted scores ran from 6.0 to 8.0 mostly. The only place you saw it being hyped higher than that was in System wars and by trolls with sometimes new accounts.

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#10 hakanakumono
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Because no one takes the wii seriously.

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#11 hayato_
Member since 2007 • 5165 Posts

I remember seeing the commercials about this game

"Best First Person Shooter"

Hmmmmm..... I guess not. I still haven't played the game though? Is it really really bad or something, or did it just get a bad score by the mainstream.

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#12 Nike_Air
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Expectations were a little higher because Factor 5 and Silicon Knights had a pretty good track record with games in the past and their hyped up games (published by Sony and Microsoft respectively no-less) failed to deliver.

Now lets say .... Retromade this steaming pile that was The Conduit, then it would have been a catastrophe like those games. Little know third party dev making a generic looking game and delivering exactly that is nothing to get worked up about.

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#13 Chojuto
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I actually like the game.
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#14 Waffle_Fish
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Too Human: In development for years, hyped beyond belief, cant even get A Lair: Hyped AAA...some crazy cows even hyped it AAAA, got way bellow A Conduit: Hyped AA, some AAA, got 6.5 All three are huge flops, but the conduit is the smallest flop out of the three
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#15 shutdown_202
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For the same reason as Halo Wars and to a lesser extent Haze. A 6.5 is not as bad as a score in the 4-5 range.

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#16 Mongo-Boss
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There are very little sheep. There's no fun in pissing 2 or 3 posters off :P

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#17 bc1391
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How the hell did it sell 30k in its first month, when the game hasn't been out for a month?

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#18 SolidTy
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Too Human was only hyped by Cows. Lemmings abandoned it after E3 06-Pred-Alien-

That's not true. You have only been here since May 2009, I've been here a lot longer, and I can tell you, that TOO HUMAN was a MUST HAVE title up UNTIL the Demo released on Xbox Live.

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#19 nhh18
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How the hell did it sell 30k in its first month, when the game hasn't been out for a month?

bc1391

I think those were the june sales for 2 weeks I think.

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#20 Thunderdrone
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Because making fun of the Wii gets boring after a while.Evolved_One

Its always funneh. Like goofy faces, all my baby fwends laugh at that.

Never gets old

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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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Because everyone knew it would be crap.
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#22 cametall
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The Conduit also didn't have Dennis Dyack jumping up and down before its release.
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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Too Human was only hyped by Cows. Lemmings abandoned it after E3 06SolidTy

That's not true. You have only been here since May 2009, I've been here a lot longer, and I can tell you, that TOO HUMAN was a MUST HAVE title up UNTIL the Demo released on Xbox Live.

No it wasnt, i lurked here a while. I didnt remember many Lemmings hyping it, all it was were Cows claiming its the next great XBOX flop. And Dyacks behaviour especially with the Gaf lot didnt help. The game failed in E3 06 and anybody could see it then.
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#24 foxhound_fox
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Because a lot of people knew from the beginning that The Conduit wasn't going to be any good... while on paper, both Too Human and Lair had potential to be great games... they just ended up being released before they were finished.

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#25 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Too Human was only hyped by Cows. Lemmings abandoned it after E3 06-Pred-Alien-

That's not true. You have only been here since May 2009, I've been here a lot longer, and I can tell you, that TOO HUMAN was a MUST HAVE title up UNTIL the Demo released on Xbox Live.

No it wasnt, i lurked here a while. I didnt remember many Lemmings hyping it, all it was were Cows claiming its the next great XBOX flop. And Dyacks behaviour especially with the Gaf lot didnt help. The game failed in E3 06 and anybody could see it then.

I'm a lemming and I hyped it, hell I still love to play it from time to time. I just got made fun of it the other day for saying I would rather play Too Human then most other games today. I know I am not the only one who was hyped for it also because I remember the threads since I was a part of every single one of them.

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#26 mitu123
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Because a lot of people knew from the beginning that The Conduit wasn't going to be any good... while on paper, both Too Human and Lair had potential to be great games... they just ended up being released before they were finished.

foxhound_fox
Yep, so true, I always wanted Lair and Too Human to do good, and, yeah. The Conduit, however, didn't look so great when I 1st saw it.
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#27 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Too Human was only hyped by Cows. Lemmings abandoned it after E3 06-Pred-Alien-

That's not true. You have only been here since May 2009, I've been here a lot longer, and I can tell you, that TOO HUMAN was a MUST HAVE title up UNTIL the Demo released on Xbox Live.

No it wasnt, i lurked here a while. I didnt remember many Lemmings hyping it, all it was were Cows claiming its the next great XBOX flop. And Dyacks behaviour especially with the Gaf lot didnt help. The game failed in E3 06 and anybody could see it then.

SolidTY is right. I've been here since 05 and remember how it was. Initially there was little hype and then we saw some gameplay videos (e3 o5 or e3 06?) and it looked absoloutely crap. It was then regarded as garbage and no-one cared for it.

However,

i think it was in2007, IGN had a week long coverage and hyped it like MAD. Thus, lemmings started proclaiming how much the game improved etc etc. Once the demo dropped, people started backing out (and we all know once hypes in place, its a done deal) although there were still some sticking by it.

So to conclude, it was hyped a bit, then a long bit of silence and then IGN hyped thus causing lemmings to hype.

I really hate IGN.

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#28 darth-pyschosis
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It sold 30,000 in first month and 6.5 at gamespot. In terms of sales, it sold less than Lair, and Too human its first month. I mean this game is the biggest commerically flop game, and critically flop game too.

nhh18

1. because it didn't sell 30k in a month Liar. it sold 160k in NA only in its first two weeks. Don't select just want you want to hear.

2. Because it was hyped A, and its average review is 74 with as high as 9's low as 6's

3. Because HVS is already making money off it, SEGA has already said they're happy with the sales. Its on track to sell a million on Wii just like World At War did

4. Maybe Gamers don't feel like being jerks about it. Maybe for once, whether they like the game or not, they can respect a small dev working as hard as they can to make a good game for a small audience, even if they fail at it a little

5. God forbid people enjoy the game. Plenty of people are enjoying it esspecially online, and the controls are the best FPS contorls i've played on a console IMO.

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#29 flazzle
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Also, Conduits biggest crime is being generic and a bit overhyped by the developers.

However, Conduit does have some redeeming values, especially its customizable controls which many reviewers say should be the new standard, and multiplayer is quite decent according to some.

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#30 surrealnumber5
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where are people getting this AAA-AA hype for the conduit? i know i saw a lot more A hype then anything, and it exceeded my gamespot prediction of 5-6
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#31 zero_snake99
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It sold 30,000 in first month and 6.5 at gamespot. In terms of sales, it sold less than Lair, and Too human its first month. I mean this game is the biggest commerically flop game, and critically flop game too.

nhh18
Lair was good. It just had worse than crap controls (which they fixed). Too Human was just bad. Conduit is something for the "hardcore" owners of the Wii to hold them afloat until a new good game comes out.
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#32 Keiron-wii
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Why life allows morons to live free in the world? I am just wondering. The Conduit sold 72k in 9 daysNOT in a Month, WTH I mean you must be seriously mental offended. Its not on the Top as it was hoped but it is not a failure. Mad World sold 88k in 2 months and maybe more, that was a real Failure, Conduit sold 72k in 9 days. Anyway I havenothing more to add justlast thing to saysmall kidz-ritarded try to sleep more instead of being in front of PCs

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#33 bc1391
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[QUOTE="bc1391"]

How the hell did it sell 30k in its first month, when the game hasn't been out for a month?

nhh18

I think those were the june sales for 2 weeks I think.

It sold 72k in a little over a week
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#34 MischiefmAker
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Too Human: In development for years, hyped beyond belief, cant even get A Lair: Hyped AAA...some crazy cows even hyped it AAAA, got way bellow A Conduit: Hyped AA, some AAA, got 6.5 All three are huge flops, but the conduit is the smallest flop out of the threeWaffle_Fish

Most people I saw hyped it at 7, so it was only 0.5 off.

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#35 darth-pyschosis
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Why life allows morons to live free in the world? I am just wondering. The Conduit sold 72k in 9 daysNOT in a Month, WTH I mean you must be seriously mental offended. Its not on the Top as it was hoped but it is not a failure. Mad World sold 88k in 2 months and maybe more, that was a real Failure, Conduit sold 72k in 9 days. Anyway I havenothing more to add justlast thing to saysmall kidz-ritarded try to sleep more instead of being in front of PCs

Keiron-wii

Well Madworld has sold 240k over 4 months, not bad considering the last game the guys from Platnium only convinced 200k PS2 owners to buy it in 3 years

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#36 01_5k001
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haha 30k in a month. That's because there was only one week left on that month. Lets wait a full 30 days or 4 weeks then you can make fun of the game.

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#37 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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Because there's too much other stuff about the Wii to make fun of.

Also @ Mitu123 I honestly don't know why you and a few other people thinks she is good looking. That girl's not very good looking at all, not saying Uncharted 2 looks bad though or anything.

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#38 surrealnumber5
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haha 30k in a month. That's because there was only one week left on that month. Lets wait a full 30 days or 4 weeks then you can make fun of the game.

01_5k001
it also was not 30k as i have read
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#39 Z0MBIES
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It's the Wii, no one here really cares enough to bash it that much because for the 360/PS3 fanboys its inferiority is assumed.
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#40 Silenthps
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because it was hyped A and pretty much everyone knew it was gonna be generic and not do well?
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#41 ViewtifulScott
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Too Human and Lair had some quality or another that made them more memorable. Conduit is just an absurdly generic me too FPS. It's too bland to have any lasting appeal as a system wars joke.

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#42 thelastguy
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Lair was supposed to end the PS3's drought and kick off its "comeback"

Too Human took 10 years to dev and the ended up with garbage

The Conduit was a generic FPS from an unknown third party dev that everybody knew would fail, Lair and Too Human had more lulz making them memorable

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#43 jakarai
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There are very little sheep. There's no fun in pissing 2 or 3 posters off :P

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This. LOL Can't recall the last time the sheep hyped a game AAA proudly.
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#44 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

There are very little sheep. There's no fun in pissing 2 or 3 posters off :P

jakarai
This. LOL Can't recall the last time the sheep hyped a game AAA proudly.

on gamespot, and they are right to do so