Why have there been no guerrilla warfare games?

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#1 360_Degrees
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games? 

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#2 foxhound_fox
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Here is the Insurgency mod for Source. Coming out this month too. :)
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#4 DDX2
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does Freedom Fighters count? Red Faction? those are games about resistance....wait, resistance and guerilla fighting are different things. nevermind.
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They need to make a Rambo game using the Crytek 2 engine.
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#6 dave_ps3
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games?

360_Degrees

 

What about every generic FPS when one man manages to mow down thousands of enemies. Would that include as outnumbered but still victorious ?

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#7 NorthlandMan
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The cream of FPS devs tend to be american. and i doubt that many of them would be brave enough to depict warfare like that, especially considering the beating they got in vietnam and are getting in iraq

 

it would be commercial suicide

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#9 360_Degrees
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[QUOTE="360_Degrees"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games?

dave_ps3

 

What about every generic FPS when one man manages to mow down thousands of enemys. Would that include as outnumbered but still victorious.

 

First off, you'd have a squad because they travel in squads/groups.

Secondly, it would be realistic because its a warfare game.

Thirdly, you'd be fighting for a certain country (in YOUR homeland because they usually are repelling enemy invasions).

Fourthly, funding would be poor so you wouldn't be firing thousands of rounds per level or having heat-seeking missiles or tanks everywhere.

And lastly, it would require quite a bit of stealth to gain the upper-hand in combat on your opponents. 

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#10 Blind0825
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I personally think that would be an awesome idea...the picture that popped into my head was in the patriot when mel gibson and his kids ambush that caravan and he goes nuts and kills everyone.  Something like that but more modern would be a blast to play.
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[QUOTE="dave_ps3"][QUOTE="360_Degrees"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games?

360_Degrees

 

What about every generic FPS when one man manages to mow down thousands of enemys. Would that include as outnumbered but still victorious.

 

First off, you'd have a squad because they travel in squads/groups.

Secondly, it would be realistic because its a warfare game.

Thirdly, you'd be fighting for a certain country (in YOUR homeland because they usually are repelling enemy invasions).

Fourthly, funding would be poor so you wouldn't be firing thousands of rounds per level or having heat-seeking missiles or tanks everywhere.

And lastly, it would require quite a bit of stealth to gain the upper-hand in combat on your opponents. 

I deleted my two prior posts to consolodate them here...

360_Degrees, it sounds to me that you definitely should look at Freedom Fighters for the original Xbox (also on PS 2, I think the Gamecube, and possibly the PC as well), as well as Operation: Flashpoint Cold War Crisis and its expansion packs (especially the pack focusing on a small nation's resistance to a Soviet armed incursion and occupation) for the PC and Xbox (not sure if the expansions are on the Xbox version though)

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#12 dave_ps3
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The only way I could think of a Guerilla style game being developed without resorting to slaughtering American soldiers would be if they were to make a game in which we played as native's armed with spears and wooden shields fighting against the superior invaders who had muskets and cannons. That would require Guerilla warfare, you could lay traps around the land and stuff. It could be set around 100 years ago when the British, Potugese and Spanish were attempting to colonise the world.
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[QUOTE="dave_ps3"][QUOTE="360_Degrees"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games?

360_Degrees

 

What about every generic FPS when one man manages to mow down thousands of enemys. Would that include as outnumbered but still victorious.

 

First off, you'd have a squad because they travel in squads/groups.

Secondly, it would be realistic because its a warfare game.

Thirdly, you'd be fighting for a certain country (in YOUR homeland because they usually are repelling enemy invasions).

Fourthly, funding would be poor so you wouldn't be firing thousands of rounds per level or having heat-seeking missiles or tanks everywhere.

And lastly, it would require quite a bit of stealth to gain the upper-hand in combat on your opponents.

 

GRAW. 

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#14 360_Degrees
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The only way I could think of a Guerilla style game being developed without resorting to slaughtering American soldiers would be if they were to make a game in which we played as native's armed with spears and wooden shields fighting against the superior invaders who had muskets and cannons. That would require Guerilla warfare, you could lay traps around the land and stuff. It could be set around 100 years ago when the British, Potugese and Spanish were attempting to colonise the world.dave_ps3

 

Uh, not exactly.

Afghans (who were supplied by the US) against Soviets.

American Revolution (against the Brits, as mentioned above).

Soviets vs Nazi's (like in the beginning of Call of Duty 2)

Vietnam vs United States (although it would sell like crap)


Or a fictional war/futuristic war. It CAN be done.

And I'll definitely check out that Freedom Fighters game, thanks. 

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So did anyone click my link? Here is the trailer for said mod.
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#16 NorthlandMan
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personally i'd like to see a game depicting the iraqi insurgency or the vietnamese without resorting to stereotypes. It'd also be nice to see the french resistance
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There's a next-gen game being made where you play an Irishman stuck in a European city during the German occupation of WW2, with a bit of creative history thrown in. edit: and i'm pretty sure any game depicting the vietnamese conflict from the other side would be zero fun. it seems to have been a huge political victory, but a crushing military defeat.
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What about Mercenaries?
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[QUOTE="360_Degrees"][QUOTE="dave_ps3"][QUOTE="360_Degrees"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games?

Legendaryscmt

 

What about every generic FPS when one man manages to mow down thousands of enemys. Would that include as outnumbered but still victorious.

 

First off, you'd have a squad because they travel in squads/groups.

Secondly, it would be realistic because its a warfare game.

Thirdly, you'd be fighting for a certain country (in YOUR homeland because they usually are repelling enemy invasions).

Fourthly, funding would be poor so you wouldn't be firing thousands of rounds per level or having heat-seeking missiles or tanks everywhere.

And lastly, it would require quite a bit of stealth to gain the upper-hand in combat on your opponents.

 

GRAW.

 

Yeah, as I was making this post I was thinking about GRAW.

Although in GRAW, you are invading Mexico to liberate it, and you are supplied with a ridiculous amount of high-tech guns (not a bad thing, just not what guerilla's are usually equipped with).

But that ****of squad-based action and realism is what I had in mind.

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Far Cry was guerrilla, although not sqaud based, and the original Ghost Recon games (before it was all casualed up for GR2 and GRAW) was very guerrilla.
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#23 thisisalam
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Here is what you want, mate, at last - Gesta Final. Dying to get it - but it is still not available there in the web. :-( Hope we'll get it soon. :-) http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cuban-revolution-video-game-gesta-final-lets-users-play-che-guevara/381860-11.html
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Because individual guerillas get mowed down easily by tanks, planes, helis, etc. Basically picture COD multiplayer, where it's you with a basic, unmodded AK47 vs an entire team of dudes with super advanced modded assault rifles, grenades, and o yeah they all have killstreaks to call in too. It could be done but it probably would have to be stealth or RPG game rather then an action one
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#25 thisisalam
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but why have there been no guerilla warfare games?

I think it would be pretty sweet to play as a squad of guerilla's using vantage points to take out your enemies, being out-numbered but still being victorious, and having to conserve ammo because of the lack of funding.


Sure, it might not sound very fun or appeal to some people, but it could still be executed very well with the proper developer.
And example would be the guerilla Afghans (supplied by the United States, Bin Laden was actually an ally with the U.S. at this time) fighting against the invading Soviets during the Cold War.

Or it could be a fictional war, either way would work.

Does anyone think this would be a good switch-up from World War II games? 

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Here is what you want, mate, at last - Gesta Final. Dying to get it - but it is still not available there in the web. :-( Hope we'll get it soon. :-) http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cuban-revolution-video-game-gesta-final-lets-users-play-che-guevara/381860-11.html
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#28 Jag85
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What the... someone actually revived a six year old thread?!

Nevertheless, I think it's a good idea. Playing guerillas fighting against professional armies would be pretty cool. It could be like a stealth survival game, as has been mentioned above.

However, considering the so-called "War on Terror" still going on, I doubt any North American or Western European developers will have the guts to make a game like that. However, there's nothing preventing Asian, Eastern European or Latin American developers from having a go, like that Gesta Final game posted above.

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