Why I like to support the 360.

*gives ricklemieux a flame shield*Iron-Dragon

Thanks, but I don't need it.  This is just my opinion and is only for discussion.

i like to support all consoles, i own only the 360 and wii atm though, maybe getting a ps3 when there is a price drop

Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.ramey70

i kinda do, its abit to expensive for me, but the games my pc can run without melting, i enjoy them alot 

I got my 360 because of the gaming library (and the games to come), and it's amazing abilities as a media hub, because I can watch all my movies, photos, and listen to music from my computer on my entertainment center via streaming.

"Very nice" said Borat.

[QUOTE="Iron-Dragon"]*gives ricklemieux a flame shield*RickLemieux

Thanks, but I don't need it.  This is just my opinion and is only for discussion.

Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.ramey70

Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.ramey70

I used to be a big PC gamer.  I'm not sure why I went to consoles.  Maybe it's time to update my PC.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.DaysAirlines

I always knew you were a smart guy ;)

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.NextGenNow

Boot Camp....so yeah, it is better. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.RickLemieux

I used to be a big PC gamer. I'm not sure why I went to consoles. Maybe it's time to update my PC.

I used to as well but I too got tired of upgrading and playing at my desk.   I'm more of a couch gamer now and love the 360.    

Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.RickLemieux

While your post is honest and sensible and avoids fanboyish cliches...you DO come off sounding like a plant.  Your post reads like a commercial.

But I applaud you for making such a non-fanboy thread.  There's far too few of those these days.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.jfkunrendered

Boot Camp....so yeah, it is better. 

w00t! Another smart one! And for the record, I was mainly a Mac gamer until I got my 360 (and my iMac was 5 years old ;) )

[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.musicalmac

Boot Camp....so yeah, it is better. 

w00t! Another smart one! And for the record, I was mainly a Mac gamer until I got my 360 (and my iMac was 5 years old ;) )

[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.musicalmac

Boot Camp....so yeah, it is better.

w00t! Another smart one! And for the record, I was mainly a Mac gamer until I got my 360 (and my iMac was 5 years old ;) )

Did I say something wrong? I dont get if you were being sarcastic or agreeing. I dont know to much about Macs and Boot Camp, but cant you like....play the games? Or what? 

Really though A beefy PC will CRUSH a Mac for gaming.....Crysis on Mac anyone? *shutters*NextGenNow

I don't think you know anything about Apple's computers. If you did, you would realize Crysis will run on any new Mac that doesn't have the integrated graphics card.

Did I say something wrong? I dont get if you were being sarcastic or agreeing. I dont know to much about Macs and Boot Camp, but cant you like....play the games? Or what? 

jfkunrendered

I was actually agreeing that Macs are find for gaming. Because the way I see it, you can boot in windows to play a game or something, and then when you're done, you can boot in MacOS X! That way you don't have to actually USE windows ;)

Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.RickLemieux

See that kids. It's a ****** Viral Marketeer. ^^^^:P 

[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.GamerRadio

See that kids. It's a ****** Viral Marketeer. ^^^^:P

is it just me or is it hard to know when u are using sarcasm 

[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.Rosencrantz

While your post is honest and sensible and avoids fanboyish cliches...you DO come off sounding like a plant.  Your post reads like a commercial.

But I applaud you for making such a non-fanboy thread.  There's far too few of those these days.

Thank you.  The post is just my opinion. 

The 360 is definately a solid system but I'm more worried about the long term plans MS has instead of the short term.DaysAirlines

Bingo, Bingo, Bingo. What I've been yelling for the longest.

Agreed. I was going to buy the 499 PS3, but it was discontinued. Now I just screw Sony all together...because I dont have a choice. The 360 also has the type of games I like too...all with XBL of course.jfkunrendered

Just because they are discontinued (Sony quit producing them) doesn't mean you can't still buy one. Please :roll:...you know this was just a weak excuse for your fanboyism and that you were never going to buy a $499 PS3.

Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.RickLemieux

[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]Agreed. I was going to buy the 499 PS3, but it was discontinued. Now I just screw Sony all together...because I dont have a choice. The 360 also has the type of games I like too...all with XBL of course.Amnesiacx

Just because they are discontinued (Sony quit producing them) doesn't mean you can't still buy one. Please :roll:...you know this was just a weak excuse for your fanboyism and that you were never going to buy a $499 PS3.

I was...I still am. When a price drop comes. I just have to many other games I have to buy this year on the Wii and 360. Its going to cost me alot of money. I cant spare any on the PS3 right now...because the games aren't appealing to me right now. Why do you even have to say anything. Thats just my opinion. I like shooters, guess who has the best? Certainly not the PS3. I like platformers....obvious choice with the Wii. 

Oh and the choice that MS doesn't give you, is if you want your 360 to break down or not. Because they all do at some point in their lives. :lol:Amnesiacx

*gives ricklemieux a flame shield*Iron-Dragon

[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.GamerRadio

See that kids. It's a ****** Viral Marketeer. ^^^^:P

LMAO 

[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.donalbane

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.RickLemieux

If you just purchased the Premium a day ago, then I would say good reasoning.

If you purchased the Premium at launch, then I would say you're trying to convince yourself that you don't need the Elite.

All in all, I prefer ALL Sku's to be available at launch so no one gets screwed over. 

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.NextGenNow

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

So I take it you have a 360 and a Media Center PC hooked up to your network?  Because if you don't, you, like most PS3 fans, don't have the slightest idea what you can do with a 360 and a Media Center PC.  One things for sure, you have no real basis for comparison, or you wouldn't have  said 'fact.'  The 360 does almost everthing a modded Xbox did, and then some. 

I have 600GB of media on my computer.  I can stream it wirelessly to my 360.  I don't have to move files over to my 360... they already live on my computer and I can access them whenever I want.  I can't really go into the details because of the rules of this site, but let's just say that it's above and beyond anything you can do with a PS3.  And I know this, because I HAVE BOTH, hence, a legitimate basis for comparison. 

As someone who owns both Blue Ray and HD-DVD (and a 1080p LCD TV,) I must say that the differences between the two formats are more about the quality of the print used to make the HD version and less to do with the format.  Any quality differences beyond that aren't even perceptable, and the HD-DVD menu system has vastly superior GUI.  You are towing Sony's company line here about the superiority of Blue Ray... as does anyone who comments on it's quality without comparing it to HD-DVD 1st hand.

Regarding WiFi... the overwhelming majority of users DO NOT WANT TO BUY WIFI!!!  They appreciate paying less for their console and choosing to go wireless down the road, should they decide they want the feature.   And you want to know something else?  The wifi on the PS3 is about half as fast as the one for the 360.  Don't ask me why... but a gb takes about 20-30 mins on the 360, and about double that on the PS3.

Did you know that the 360 has a web browser if you have a Media Center PC?  I didn't think so.  You know why nobody ever talks about it?  Because browsing on your console, any console is a NOVELTY!  I almost never do it, and when I do, I use my Wii because it's got far and away the best, most PC-like controls.

It's true... this is indisputable... the 360 doesn't support 7.1.  I'll give you that.  However, I don't have a 7.1 reciever, and I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of buying one and making my living room even more cluttered with additional wires.  There's a law of diminishing returns at play here... It's not a feature that I am excited to take advantage of, and I'm sure a very small percentage of PS3 users have 8 speakers hooked up to their entertainment centers right now.  Do you?

You mention a lack of SD and USB ports.  Guess what?  You don't need ports when your PC talks to your console.  I can access anything I want instantly, without having to transfer anything physically. 

You mention resolution.  Well, although the PS3 XMB looks nice and sharp in 1080p, the games I've played have all been 720p.  Sure there are some compelling games coming out that will support the higher res, but that's true for the 360 too.  Tekken and flow DO look good though... but they're no Gears of War ;)

And finally, your knock on HDMI.  I use VGA which is perceptually indistinguishable from HDMI, which I know because I HAVE BOTH AND CAN HONESTLY COMPARE THEM!  This whole analog/digital argument is so preposterous... the only practical difference is that HDMI has copy protection, which Sony is having troubles with, btw.  Sony's Website states that many brands of televisions are experiencing blinking effects due to handshake issues with HDCP, which they are frantically working on to patch.  You are boasting about their copy protection.... nothing more.  VGA looks indistinguishable from HDMI.  You can tell yourself otherwise, but at it's core it's just cognitive dissonance getting the best of you. 

Just because you have a cool sig doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. ;) 

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.NextGenNow

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

[QUOTE="Dynamo79]

AMEN!!!!

How about you Dynamo... you ever used a 360 hooked up to a network with a Media Center PC?  Do you have ANY real basis for comparison here? 

I know you guys want the PS3 to be more feature rich than the 360, because if it's not, then it's high price wasn't justified.  Well, I'm sorry, but it's not as viable as either a gaming platform or an entertainment hub, and that's why it's not selling nearly as well as Sony expected.  Just ask Kutaragi-san.  It's no coincidence he just fell on his sword for the team. 

[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.TerryBenedict

If you just purchased the Premium a day ago, then I would say good reasoning.

If you purchased the Premium at launch, then I would say you're trying to convince yourself that you don't need the Elite.

All in all, I prefer ALL Sku's to be available at launch so no one gets screwed over. 

Nope, I don't download movies so I don't need the 120 gigs.  My TV does not have HDMI.  So exactly how was I screwed over when I've been playing great games since March of last year?

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.donalbane

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

So I take it you have a 360 and a Media Center PC hooked up to your network?  Because if you don't, you, like most PS3 fans, don't have the slightest idea what you can do with a 360 and a Media Center PC.  One things for sure, you have no real basis for comparison, or you wouldn't have  said 'fact.'  The 360 does almost everthing a modded Xbox did, and then some. 

I have 600GB of media on my computer.  I can stream it wirelessly to my 360.  I don't have to move files over to my 360... they already live on my computer and I can access them whenever I want.  I can't really go into the details because of the rules of this site, but let's just say that it's above and beyond anything you can do with a PS3.  And I know this, because I HAVE BOTH, hence, a legitimate basis for comparison. 

As someone who owns both Blue Ray and HD-DVD (and a 1080p LCD TV,) I must say that the differences between the two formats are more about the quality of the print used to make the HD version and less to do with the format.  Any quality differences beyond that aren't even perceptable, and the HD-DVD menu system has vastly superior GUI.  You are towing Sony's company line here about the superiority of Blue Ray... as does anyone who comments on it's quality without comparing it to HD-DVD 1st hand.

Regarding WiFi... the overwhelming majority of users DO NOT WANT TO BUY WIFI!!!  They appreciate paying less for their console and choosing to go wireless down the road, should they decide they want the feature.   And you want to know something else?  The wifi on the PS3 is about half as fast as the one for the 360.  Don't ask me why... but a gb takes about 20-30 mins on the 360, and about double that on the PS3.

Did you know that the 360 has a web browser if you have a Media Center PC?  I didn't think so.  You know why nobody ever talks about it?  Because browsing on your console, any console is a NOVELTY!  I almost never do it, and when I do, I use my Wii because it's got far and away the best, most PC-like controls.

It's true... this is indisputable... the 360 doesn't support 7.1.  I'll give you that.  However, I don't have a 7.1 reciever, and I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of buying one and making my living room even more cluttered with additional wires.  There's a law of diminishing returns at play here... It's not a feature that I am excited to take advantage of, and I'm sure a very small percentage of PS3 users have 8 speakers hooked up to their entertainment centers right now.  Do you?

You mention a lack of SD and USB ports.  Guess what?  You don't need ports when your PC talks to your console.  I can access anything I want instantly, without having to transfer anything physically. 

You mention resolution.  Well, although the PS3 XMB looks nice and sharp in 1080p, the games I've played have all been 720p.  Sure there are some compelling games coming out that will support the higher res, but that's true for the 360 too.  Tekken and flow DO look good though... but they're no Gears of War ;)

And finally, your knock on HDMI.  I use VGA which is perceptually indistinguishable from HDMI, which I know because I HAVE BOTH AND CAN HONESTLY COMPARE THEM!  This whole analog/digital argument is so preposterous... the only practical difference is that HDMI has copy protection, which Sony is having troubles with, btw.  Sony's Website states that many brands of televisions are experiencing blinking effects due to handshake issues with HDCP, which they are frantically working on to patch.  You are boasting about their copy protection.... nothing more.  VGA looks indistinguishable from HDMI.  You can tell yourself otherwise, but at it's core it's just cognitive dissonance getting the best of you. 

Just because you have a cool sig doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. ;) 

But seriously! A lot of those reason were really long "well it may not be as good but if I use my uber setup then then kinda well no......but next topic!"

Fact is...if we wanna talk HDD's lets talk 750 monster drives used exclusively for the PS3...lets talk every feature out of the box with unmatchable quality.

With 360 YES...you can rig it up with a PC and have some nice features...but your payying for something on par in most areas...sub par in many others and better in very little (cuz I cant think of one reason except cartoon downloads)

I owned a 360 and YES..they are multimedia beasts. But the PS3 IS a multimedia MONSTER!! It's OS reflects this as it's designed for all things multimedia and is lagg free...something 360 is faaar from. The PS3 is also designed to be left on forever too(some ppl have left their PS3 on for days and a few for 3 weeks straight)...another feature commonly seen in multimedia devices like computers, ipods, zune, palm pilots, etc. Xbox....not so much...heck leave it on for 6 hours and you may aswell buy a plot of dirt to bury it in a few weeks.

The brick? lol cheap shot i know...but what is that thing? A medieval weapon? That alone KILLS the very thought or idea of the very definition of streamline.

My Adriana's concur. ;)

well it may not be as good but if I use my uber setup then then kinda

I don't know WTF are you talking about.  The only thing I ceded was the 7.1 thing.  Do you even have 7.1 hooked up?    If you do, then you have an uber setup as you put it.  So don't fault me on for saying the 360 is better with Media Center and then in the same breath go on about how great it is to have a 7.1 reciever.

If we wanna talk HDD's lets talk 750 monster drives used exclusively for the PS3...lets talk every feature out of the box with unmatchable quality.

But I already have a PC with a hard drive.  I don't have to buy an extra 750 monster drive in a seller's market, and if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't want it to be in FAT32.   Why?  Because you couldn't use it for anything other than the PS3... well that  and maybe a 12 year old PC rockin' Windows 95.   

With 360 YES...you can rig it up with a PC and have some nice features...but your paying for something on par in most areas...sub par in many others and better in very little (cuz I cant of one reason except cartoon downloads)

I didn't have to 'pay' for a PC to use with my 360... like 99% of the people on this forum, I already had one.  And saying 'some areas' isn't terribly specific on your part.  You make grandiose sweeping claims and fail to mention any specifics.  And did you hear the CEO of Netflix signed on to the board at Microsoft?  Gee, I wonder what that could mean for the future of the Live marketplace.    

The PS3 IS a multimedia MONSTER!! It's OS reflects this as it's designed for all things multimedia and is lagg free...something 360 is faaar from. THe PS3 is also designed to be forever too...another feature commonly seen in multimedia devices like computers, ipods, zune, palm pilots, etc. Xbox....not so much...eck leave it on for 6 hours and you may aswell buy a plot of dirt to bury it in a few weeks.

lag?  It takes literally a half second to bring up the guide sometimes, and you bring this up?  That's about as significant as your brick remark... you're reaching here.  Since you brought up the OS, lets talk about the merits of the two systems operating systems.  The 360 guide lets you chat or monitor your friends and select music FROM YOUR PC, regarless of what you are doing at the time.  How can the PS3 be a monster if you have to exit everything and go back to the XMB?  Wanna hear some songs while you browse? Sony says 'No!' But they'll give you the 'feature' of exiting your app and listening to music so long as you don't want to do anything else! WOW!  What an entertainment monster the PS3 is!  It can't even walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. 

And having owned a 360 you know better than to claim that it can't sustain being on for more than 6 hours.  I routinely fall asleep watching HD movies or shows I've downloaded, and the 360 is on all night, and there are no problems.  Your hyperbole costs you your credence. 

The brick? lol cheap shot i know...but what is that thing? A medieval weapon? That alone KILLS the very thought or idea of the very definition of streamline.

I wouldn't know... the brick is under my entertainment system and I havn't seen it since the initial installation.  That's a non-issue, and you know it.

I mean no disrepect here... I am just really, really surprised by people's remarks about the superiority of the PS3 from a feature perspective.  I understand if people want to play MGS4 of FF13, but feature for feature, the 360 can do a whole lot more as a media extender, at least in my experiences *which can't be discussed here in their entirety, unfortunately*.   I use the 360 as a part of my day to day life... and although I can appreciate that both consoles let you do this to an extent, I assert that most of the people who say "THE PS3 IS AN ENTERTAINMENT MONSTER!" never had a 360 working in conjunction with a Media Center PC, and therefore have no idea what they are comparing.

I bet you didn't know the 360 had a browser.  Will you give me that?

The 360 is definately a solid system but I'm more worried about the long term plans MS has instead of the short term.DaysAirlines

Agreed,

i only picked up my PS3 after i saw BD was on 3 discs...and for motorstorm. Its like road rash xD all this game needs is some chains and crowbars and i have something awesome. 

The 360 is definately a solid system but I'm more worried about the long term plans MS has instead of the short term.DaysAirlines

what long term plans ;)

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]The 360 is definately a solid system but I'm more worried about the long term plans MS has instead of the short term.ejstrup

what long term plans ;)

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice.  The Premium package is perfect for me,  it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV.  It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves.  My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading.  He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it.  Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one.  I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints.  Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.NextGenNow

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ramey70"]Then you guys should really like PC gaming as you have tons of variables and choices.musicalmac

Boot Camp....so yeah, it is better.

w00t! Another smart one! And for the record, I was mainly a Mac gamer until I got my 360 (and my iMac was 5 years old ;) )

Yeah so you can install windows on overpriced Apple hardware. Makes sense. So your basically paying for 2 OS's, and overpriced hardware. You MAC users are REAL smart.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="RickLemieux"]Microsoft gives me a choice. The Premium package is perfect for me, it comes with component cables which is the connection for my TV. It gives a me a hard drive for Demos, movies and game saves. My friend did not have the internet and was not interested in downloading. He just wanted to play games...so guess what, he bought the CORE and he loves it. Now if you are a technical person and someone who wants everything that the Elite has to offer, buy that one. I'm very happy with my purchase and have no complaints. Great games and a great online experience, what else could I ask for.NextGenNow

Blu-Ray > HD-DVD audio quality

WiFi built in > Xbox Tower

Multimedia Center PS3 >>>>>> 360

Web Browser > No Web browser

7.1 >>> 5.1

True 1080p >>>> Fake 1080p

SD slots >> No SD slots

Mem Stick Slots >>>> No mem stick slots

More USB ports >>> Less USB Ports

Optimal HDMI >>> Crapped Out Knock Off HDMI

PS3 >>> 360

Fact.

There wasn't a FACT in there. That was one big fanboy opinion.