Why is everybody hating on the Elite?

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#1 HyperMetaDragon
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I live in Canada and right now it costs $550 Canadian money. So that's like $400 American money. :shock: All I have to do is spend $50 more and I get a better console...so why is everybody saying that it's not worth the extra money?
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#2 xxThyLordxx
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because it is a rip off :|

its almost $500, yet no HD format or at least built-in wifi. add $100 more, and you will get a blu-ray, built-in wifi, any 2.5 HDD SATA and more. there is no point of releasing Elite 360, MS should stop producing Core 360 now that Sony has discontinued the 20GB PS3. 

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#3 HyperMetaDragon
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because it is a rip off :|

its almost $500, yet no HD format or at least built-in wifi. add $100 more, and you will get a blu-ray, built-in wifi, any 2.5 HDD SATA and more. there is no point of releasing Elite 360, MS should stop producing Core 360 now that Sony has discontinued the 20GB PS3.

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Sony discontinued the 20 GB PS3 because they couldn't afford it...Microsoft can afford it, and it's keeping good sales, so there's no reason why they should discontinue it. 

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#4 jessesalinas
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i dont know,maybe because we dont have one..

i sure would like to have that 120gb HD

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#5 themyth01
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 Because cows somehow think we need a new format which we don't. Or they're just bitter that there's a new console out that is much better than ps3 in just about any respect and it's not made by Sony.

 

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#6 xxThyLordxx
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i dont know,maybe because we dont have one..

i sure would like to have that 120gb HD

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X360 120GB HDD costs $180. while PS3 it costs around $50 or less, because you can use any 2.5 HDD SATA. I have 160GB HDD in my PS3 and it only cost £52. while an X360 20GB  cost £70 here in UK.

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#7 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

i dont know,maybe because we dont have one..

i sure would like to have that 120gb HD

xxThyLordxx

X360 120GB HDD costs $180. while PS3 it costs around $50 or less, because you can use any 2.5 HDD SATA. I have 160GB HDD in my PS3 and it only cost £52. while an X360 20GB  cost £70 here in UK.

nice, i didnt know that.

 

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#8 Javy03
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I live in Canada and right now it costs $550 Canadian money. So that's like $400 American money. :shock: All I have to do is spend $50 more and I get a better console...so why is everybody saying that it's not worth the extra money?HyperMetaDragon

 

I dont hate on it, I just think its ironic that MS criticized Sony for its use of HDMI, Price point, and HDD size and then they turned around and implemented those features.  I also think its funny that MS fans talk alot about options yet the early adopters got no choice on an elite as MS said they wouldnt adapt HDMI and when they denied the Zephyr rumors leaving many holiday shoppers to misleadingly buy the "premium" 360 and not give them a choice to wait a couple months and get the best 360 version. 

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#9 Krudus
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i dont know... i mean i love 360... but man... when i saw elite.. that color... that hdmi port... something just happened to me... MAN I HATE THAT ******* THING. though i have nothing against the offer MS is making.
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#10 Ninja-Vox
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Because it isn't that much better than the other 360, and it's also clearly there as a psychological thing to combat sony's marketing that the PS3 is some "elite" machine above the competition. The xbox 360 was fine without HDMI and with the 20gb hard drive. The elite is just an unnecessary product, frankly.
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#11 JPOBS
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because people seem to think that all other 360's crashed and burned with its announcement, and all 10 million previous 360 owners now have to buy the elite or they can never play a 360 game again.

 

At least thats the impression i get.  

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#12 HeedleGlavin
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It's extremely unfair to the 10 million current 360 owners.
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#13 Thompsonwhore
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The reason I hate the current Elite is because they're releasing yet another Elite that has the 65nm die, while the current one is still on 90nm. I mean why would you release a product just months before you release the same thing but it generates less heat?
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#14 themyth01
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It's extremely unfair to the 10 million current 360 owners.HeedleGlavin

 How so? you can still play any 360 game correct? so what's the problem? 

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#15 HyperMetaDragon
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's extremely unfair to the 10 million current 360 owners.themyth01

How so? you can still play any 360 game correct? so what's the problem?

I don't have a problem with it, either. 

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Defective + milkage = bad combo
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#17 youngtongue
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Because it isn't that much better than the other 360, and it's also clearly there as a psychological thing to combat sony's marketing that the PS3 is some "elite" machine above the competition. The xbox 360 was fine without HDMI and with the 20gb hard drive. The elite is just an unnecessary product, frankly.Ninja-Vox

You know you should really bold and enlargen ur font there cuz I hate having to do everything for you when you say something smart.

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PS3 with Blue Ray 600$ >>>> 360 Elite with 480$+ HD - DVD 200$ WITh HARdware Problems = 680$

 

This is the main reason why.

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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's extremely unfair to the 10 million current 360 owners.themyth01

 How so? you can still play any 360 game correct? so what's the problem? 

Some 360 owners might have wanted the built in HDMI or bigger harddrive for that price. Instead, MS is charging $200 for the Elite HDD sold seperately. So, for $600 - current 360 owners can have what Elite owners have for $480, without the built-in HDMI.
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#20 HappyInvader101
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The 360 elite is a rip of, you can get essentially the same thing with the superior Premium
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#21 MikeE21286
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Beacuse it's a ridiculous rip-off and I'm glad it's flopping
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#22 JPOBS
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I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly?
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#23 themyth01
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PS3 with Blue Ray 600$ >>>> 360 Elite with 480$+ HD - DVD 200$ WITh HARdware Problems = 680$

 

This is the main OPINION why.

Silvereign

 Fixed, and I believe you're way off. Even the Premium 360 is better than PS3  let alone the elite, that of course was also my opinion.

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#24 themyth01
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Beacuse it's a ridiculous rip-off and I'm glad it's floppingMikeE21286

 Excuse me??? It's been sold out ever since it came out in my area, and on most sites I've checked, let's just wait for NPD sales and see shall we.

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#25 NorthlandMan
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Because it sucks It's not much cheaper than a PS3, has less power, no wi-fi, no next gen disc format and you have to pay for online. In addition it keeps failing like the original 360 (a problem that was SUPPOSED to have been fixed). Elite? more like Inferior
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Because you're screwed if you bought one already and they haven't even fixed the major hardware faults. If you already have one it isn't just $50($80us) more. Yyou have to sell the old one at a big loss and end up paying at least $200 more.....which ends up being the price difference for PS3.
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#27 JPOBS
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Because you're screwed if you bought one already and they haven't even fixed the major hardware faults. If you already have one it isn't just $50($80us) more. Yyou have to sell the old one at a big loss and end up paying at least $200 more.....which ends up being the price difference for PS3.Lazy_Boy88
Why not just keep the old one? :|
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because with Elite, i thought that M$ should at least fix some of its technical issues, such as the rediciulous power brick, no HD-DVD, no Wi-Fi, and still using the same noisy DVD drive and not implementing the new 65nm chipset.

its bascially like you are spending more money only to get a bigger hard drive and a old generation of HDMI output.

 

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Beacuse it's a ridiculous rip-off and I'm glad it's floppingthemyth01

Excuse me??? It's been sold out ever since it came out in my area, and on most sites I've checked, let's just wait for NPD sales and see shall we.

Around me I can walk into any store and buy one if I wanted to. 

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#30 Batista4u
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Because is black...

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I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? JPOBS

It's ripping off the people who buy one now because in the fall there going to put the 65mn chip in and that might help with the 3 rings of death..

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I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? JPOBS
people who want larger hard drives?
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Beacuse it's a ridiculous rip-off and I'm glad it's floppingthemyth01

 Excuse me??? It's been sold out ever since it came out in my area, and on most sites I've checked, let's just wait for NPD sales and see shall we.

Just buy it online
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Elite-High-Definition-Gaming-and-Entertainment-System-882224390118/sem/rpsm/oid/177538/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Not that hard.

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#34 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? DanBrim1

It's ripping off the people who buy one now because in the fall there going to put the 65mn chip in and that might help with the 3 rings of death..

so.....why dont they just wait?
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#35 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? Hewkii
people who want larger hard drives?

you get what you pay for. if you want a larger harddrive, you pay for it.

 

thats like saying people who bought an ipod nano and want a 80gig are complainig about price. If you want a bigger hardrive, you pay for the more expensive system. simple.  

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#36 Hewkii
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? JPOBS

people who want larger hard drives?

you get what you pay for. if you want a larger harddrive, you pay for it.

 

thats like saying people who bought an ipod nano and want a 80gig are complainig about price. If you want a bigger hardrive, you pay for the more expensive system. simple.  

yet how much you pay is the problem.
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[QUOTE="DanBrim1"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? JPOBS

It's ripping off the people who buy one now because in the fall there going to put the 65mn chip in and that might help with the 3 rings of death..

so.....why dont they just wait?

Well i would imagine that this isn't something that MS is really going to tell everone and I don't think all new 360 buyers will take the time to find this out. Can you see MS saying wait a few months we will ship even a better Elite .. They will go with the Idea that its a new SKU and must have all the best features...But to answer your question I really hope they do..Wait that is..

 

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Just asking, why is a bigger harddrive more important. I do not own a 360 or PS3 so I'm not sure about the use of the hardrive. All I know is you can store stuff on it, like arcade games and stuff.
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#39 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? Hewkii

people who want larger hard drives?

you get what you pay for. if you want a larger harddrive, you pay for it.

 

thats like saying people who bought an ipod nano and want a 80gig are complainig about price. If you want a bigger hardrive, you pay for the more expensive system. simple.

yet how much you pay is the problem.

its $120 cheaper than the ps3, with twice the hardrive. :|
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#40 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]I have a question: who is the elite ripping off exactly? JPOBS

people who want larger hard drives?

you get what you pay for. if you want a larger harddrive, you pay for it.

 

thats like saying people who bought an ipod nano and want a 80gig are complainig about price. If you want a bigger hardrive, you pay for the more expensive system. simple.

yet how much you pay is the problem.

its $120 cheaper than the ps3, with twice the hardrive. :|

Yeah, too bad its Without:

Built -in Wireless

True 1.3 HDMI

or a Next Gen HD Format (For those interested atleast)

Still.......it's a ripoff, and there's no need for 120 GB, Hell 60GB is a TON already. 

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#41 Virus214
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I live in Canada and right now it costs $550 Canadian money. So that's like $400 American money. :shock: All I have to do is spend $50 more and I get a better console...so why is everybody saying that it's not worth the extra money?HyperMetaDragon

 

Because your paying extra for a black 360, THAT STILL HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS ANY OTHER AFTER A YEARS CHANCE TO FIX IT ! 

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#42 l_The_DetoX_l
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Because with the Elite you think you'd be getting more, but all you really get is more memory(which is a pain to transfer data, especially if you have 2 20gb harddrives), and hdmi. 100gb more space, and Hdmi 1.2. That doesn't scream elite to me.
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#43 TerryBenedict
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Because your paying extra for a black 360, THAT STILL HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS ANY OTHER AFTER A YEARS CHANCE TO FIX IT ! Virus214

I'm so glad they addressed the hardware failure issues. Oh wait. 

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#44 RagedRaldo54
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Because the 360 Elite is a obvious wannabe PS3.
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#45 cyprus646
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Theres still no built in wifi? wow i hate using ethernet cables. Cmon MS get on the next gen bandwagon
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#46 Silvereign
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[QUOTE="Silvereign"]

PS3 with Blue Ray 600$ >>>> 360 Elite with 480$+ HD - DVD 200$ WITh HARdware Problems = 680$

 

This is the main OPINION why.

themyth01

Fixed, and I believe you're way off. Even the Premium 360 is better than PS3 let alone the elite, that of course was also my opinion.

 

. Its not an opinion its a fact. Even Lemmings cried how the Elite didn't fix the original 360's issues. The PS3 is more reliable and the ELite cost 480 + with HD DVD 200 = 680$ is not an opinion. Your a serious fanboy if you don't admit that. And where not talking about the Premium 360 where talking about the Elite. 

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#47 munsoned
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I live in Canada and right now it costs $550 Canadian money. So that's like $400 American money. :shock: All I have to do is spend $50 more and I get a better console...so why is everybody saying that it's not worth the extra money?HyperMetaDragon
if u dont already have a 360 then only then it is worth it. but ied wait til they put in new chip and disc drive b/c the elite i had was loud as hell and it got hot very quik..
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#48 helium_flash
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I'm pissed off because now there probably won't be a price drop on the 360 until at least 2008.
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#49 munsoned
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Theres still no built in wifi? wow i hate using ethernet cables. Cmon MS get on the next gen bandwagoncyprus646
i hate buying a new wireless router to be able to play my wii online. b/c my eithernet cables worked just fine. cmon nintendo give me a choice
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#50 munsoned
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I'm pissed off because now there probably won't be a price drop on the 360 until at least 2008.helium_flash
i know thats bs... i hope sony does a price drop soon that will force ms to do the same lol