WHY is Halo 3 Treated as the Messiah when Gears Is Sooo much better

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#1 BrutonNYC
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Dont get me wrong, I play Halo 2 online a lot, but I just dont honestly get the massive massive hype for this game. I mean its good but not THAT good. Gears on the other hand is a different story, Gears in my book is more revolutionary then Halo, Halo is just your typical cliche First person shooter with ok graphics while Gears looks and plays amazing! Ive owned Gears for four months now and I still love it to this day and everytime I play it im just in amazement by how good the graphics are in that game. When I First played Gears the first thing that went through my mind was "THIS is one amazing game" but when I first played Halo I thought "Pretty fun, but why the hype"

It just kind of saddens me how Average games like Halo get so much hype while other great games such as the MGS 4 and Mass effect are going to be so much better on so many levels yet people dont seem to care whatsoever about those games. 

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#2 Acemaster27
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It doesnt matter how good any 360 game is, Halo is THE savior of any M$ system. Not that the 360 wont ride something like GeoW to victory over the PS3, its just that Halo 3 will move the most systems.
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Dont get me wrong, I play Halo 2 online a lot, but I just dont honestly get the massive massive hype for this game. I mean its good but not THAT good. Gears on the other hand is a different story, Gears in my book is more revolutionary then Halo, Halo is just your typical cliche First person shooter with ok graphics while Gears looks and plays amazing! Ive owned Gears for four months now and I still love it to this day and everytime I play it im just in amazement by how good the graphics are in that game. When I First played Gears the first thing that went through my mind was "THIS is one amazing game" but when I first played Halo I thought "Pretty fun, but why the hype"

It just kind of saddens me how Average games like Halo get so much hype while other great games such as the MGS 4 and Mass effect are going to be so much better on so many levels yet people dont seem to care whatsoever about those games. 

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im sorry but in not one way is halo average. its definantly the most exciting first person shooter to play. the storyline of that series is above on beyond almost every shooter(with the exception of half life). Gears on the other hand was a slow paced, more tactical, cover system shooter. Halo is more wide open, more aggressive, in terms of a multiplayer experience Halo pretty much all console shooters out of the water. gears is an awesome game. so are call of duty, timesplitters,etc. But Halo is one of the best games out there, it is by no means average.
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#4 krp008
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it saddens me when kids like you think everyone has the same personal opinion as you... I liked Gear's single player. It was pretty good, but the MP was terrible. Halo 2's multiplayer alone destroys Gears as a whole
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#5 TyrantDragon55
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Here's how it goes IMO:

Single Player: Halo 1 >>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 2

Multiplayer: Halo 2>>>>>>>>Halo 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War.

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#8 krp008
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Here's how it goes IMO:

Single Player: Halo 1 >>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 2

Multiplayer: Halo 2>>>>>>>>Halo 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War.

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True. The story to Halo 2 was excellent, but the gameplay just wasnt there.

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#9 lespaul1919
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becuase halo has better gameplay? just a thought.

 

 

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#10 cheatymcshifty
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I agree with Halo being (well above) average, and Gears being much better, but the lems will never agree... Halo is what made them lems...

 

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#11 useLOGIC
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yes gears > halo... but halo is a huge series with a lot to live up to so i think theres just huge anticipation for the 3rd one.
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#12 darkplayer
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How can you compare a next gen game to Halo 1 and 2.  Wait for Halo 3 to release.
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#13 needo37
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Holy crap! Is Halo 3 out already?! I better go pick it up. Oh wait... its not out yet...

How can you judge or make such a statement before a game has even been released?

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gears is too sluggish and restricted.  halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :) 

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gears is too sluggish and restricted.  halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :) 

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It's not even that, Gears of War's multiplayer is just so devoid of options it's not even funny. It doesn't help things that pretty much every match played can be summarized as "everyone runs to the center of the map and fires their shotguns a bunch."

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What are you talking about? Gears is even more shallow of a game than Halo2. The sole reason people like it and play it is because of the visuals and stupid animations.... I guaruntee no one would have played the exact same game with awful visuals on PS2. Nothing's been even close to as good as Halo:CE yet.
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#17 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

TyrantDragon55

It's not even that, Gears of War's multiplayer is just so devoid of options it's not even funny. It doesn't help things that pretty much every match played can be summarized as "everyone runs to the center of the map and fires their shotguns a bunch."

you summed it up pretty well.  

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#18 useLOGIC
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

TyrantDragon55

It's not even that, Gears of War's multiplayer is just so devoid of options it's not even funny. It doesn't help things that pretty much every match played can be summarized as "everyone runs to the center of the map and fires their shotguns a bunch."

you forgot "everyone plays hide and seek for 5 min first" :P

 

EDIT FOR STUPID FANBOYS: i actually like gears

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gears is too sluggish and restricted.  halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :) 

lespaul1919


Yep..you can certainly go "anywhere" in Halo 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25cXEg7zFQ
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#20 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

Zero_Fate_



Yep..you can certainly go "anywhere" in Halo 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25cXEg7zFQ

pfft, in the olden days we used sword cancelling to get ANYWHERE.   

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#21 krp008
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

useLOGIC

It's not even that, Gears of War's multiplayer is just so devoid of options it's not even funny. It doesn't help things that pretty much every match played can be summarized as "everyone runs to the center of the map and fires their shotguns a bunch."

you forgot "everyone plays hide and seek for 5 min first" :P

 

EDIT FOR STUPID FANBOYS: i actually like gears

No, a match in Gears usually ends in 1-2 minutes. Now that is what i call fun!! :roll:

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#22 Zero_Fate_
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[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

lespaul1919



Yep..you can certainly go "anywhere" in Halo 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25cXEg7zFQ

pfft, in the olden days we used sword cancelling to get ANYWHERE.   

Sword cancelling works too, it does wonders in maps like Turf.

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#23 useLOGIC
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[QUOTE="useLOGIC"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

gears is too sluggish and restricted. halo has so much more freedom, you feel like you can do anything and go anywhere.

plus...in gears.....you will never get any headshots while you are flying through the air.......cuz you are always on the ground. :)

krp008

It's not even that, Gears of War's multiplayer is just so devoid of options it's not even funny. It doesn't help things that pretty much every match played can be summarized as "everyone runs to the center of the map and fires their shotguns a bunch."

you forgot "everyone plays hide and seek for 5 min first" :P

 

EDIT FOR STUPID FANBOYS: i actually like gears

No, a match in Gears usually ends in 1-2 minutes. Now that is what i call fun!! :roll:

sarcasm? or not? because the way we play it usually takes a while.. hmm.. 

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im sorry but in not one way is halo average.

I disagree.  The level design in both games was average at best.  Story line in the games is average at best.(I hear the books are excellent though).  The gameplay is certainly polished and multiplayer is a blast(When you aren't playing with children and glitchers/exploiters) however.

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Halo was Xbox's savior.
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#27 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"gamer620

im sorry but in not one way is halo average.

I disagree.  The level design in both games was average at best.  Story line in the games is average at best.(I hear the books are excellent though).  The gameplay is certainly polished and multiplayer is a blast(When you aren't playing with children and glitchers/exploiters) however.

Halo has a great story, it's just the ending to Halo 2 that everyone bashes. Gears has a decent story too, the only problem is most of said story never actually made it into the game. Hell, if you had never seen any of the early trailers, you'd probably not even know that Gears doesn't actually take place on Earth.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"gamer620

im sorry but in not one way is halo average.

I disagree. The level design in both games was average at best. Story line in the games is average at best.(I hear the books are excellent though). The gameplay is certainly polished and multiplayer is a blast(When you aren't playing with children and glitchers/exploiters) however.

The story for Halo was great. You know you don't need to be purely original to have a great story right? The cast of characters, the setting etc all contribute to Halo having a really engaging story.

The Half Life series has always been thought of as having the better story. I disagree. Half Life/Half Life 2 have better story telling. Halo and Halo 2 have the better story.

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Here's how it goes IMO:

Single Player: Halo 1 >>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 2

Multiplayer: Halo 2>>>>>>>>Halo 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gears of War.

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What are you talking about? Gears is even more shallow of a game than Halo2. The sole reason people like it and play it is because of the visuals and stupid animations.... I guaruntee no one would have played the exact same game with awful visuals on PS2. Nothing's been even close to as good as Halo:CE yet.Lazy_Boy88
Half life 2 killed halo x10.  Single player was better, multiplayer better with counterstrike.  And the graphics and physics far better and funner then halo.
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]What are you talking about? Gears is even more shallow of a game than Halo2. The sole reason people like it and play it is because of the visuals and stupid animations.... I guaruntee no one would have played the exact same game with awful visuals on PS2. Nothing's been even close to as good as Halo:CE yet.judge__judy
Half life 2 killed halo x10.  Single player was better, multiplayer better with counterstrike.  And the graphics and physics far better and funner then halo.

Remind me again, what game got best multiplayer of 2004?

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#32 atmk
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Even thought they are 2 different genres gears is not even in the same league as halo both are better than gears and halo 3 will have better graphics.

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When will people learn that Halo 1 came out in 2001, and showed the world on how a fps should be done...............Hell it even showed up Most PC shooters, infact the only one it didnt show up at that time was Half Life 1(which is debatable)

Serouisly im really sick of all this Halo 1 bashing most of you had probably played it in 2004 when (90%) of shooters out there were infulanced by it

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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]What are you talking about? Gears is even more shallow of a game than Halo2. The sole reason people like it and play it is because of the visuals and stupid animations.... I guaruntee no one would have played the exact same game with awful visuals on PS2. Nothing's been even close to as good as Halo:CE yet.judge__judy
Half life 2 killed halo x10. Single player was better, multiplayer better with counterstrike. And the graphics and physics far better and funner then halo.

Sorry dude, but CS:Source sucks compared to 1.6. 

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#35 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

Dont get me wrong, I play Halo 2 online a lot, but I just dont honestly get the massive massive hype for this game. I mean its good but not THAT good. Gears on the other hand is a different story, Gears in my book is more revolutionary then Halo, Halo is just your typical cliche First person shooter with ok graphics while Gears looks and plays amazing! Ive owned Gears for four months now and I still love it to this day and everytime I play it im just in amazement by how good the graphics are in that game. When I First played Gears the first thing that went through my mind was "THIS is one amazing game" but when I first played Halo I thought "Pretty fun, but why the hype"

It just kind of saddens me how Average games like Halo get so much hype while other great games such as the MGS 4 and Mass effect are going to be so much better on so many levels yet people dont seem to care whatsoever about those games. 

jg4xchamp

im sorry but in not one way is halo average. its definantly the most exciting first person shooter to play. the storyline of that series is above on beyond almost every shooter(with the exception of half life). Gears on the other hand was a slow paced, more tactical, cover system shooter. Halo is more wide open, more aggressive, in terms of a multiplayer experience Halo pretty much all console shooters out of the water. gears is an awesome game. so are call of duty, timesplitters,etc. But Halo is one of the best games out there, it is by no means average.

go and play some pc fps and halo wont seem so good.  halo has noting on your average pc shooter, yes on consoles its above average but not on pc

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#36 imprezawrx500
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becuase halo has better gameplay? just a thought.

 

 

lespaul1919

well farcry pc has much better gameplay than halo. halo is just your average coridor shooter while farcry is openended with nonlinear levels

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[QUOTE="judge__judy"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]What are you talking about? Gears is even more shallow of a game than Halo2. The sole reason people like it and play it is because of the visuals and stupid animations.... I guaruntee no one would have played the exact same game with awful visuals on PS2. Nothing's been even close to as good as Halo:CE yet.Liquid_47

Half life 2 killed halo x10. Single player was better, multiplayer better with counterstrike. And the graphics and physics far better and funner then halo.

Sorry dude, but CS:Source sucks compared to 1.6.

True that, mainly why bungie is putting a hugh focus on making sure the halo 3's multiplayer can live up and improve the formula. 

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#39 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

becuase halo has better gameplay? just a thought.

 

 

imprezawrx500

well farcry pc has much better gameplay than halo. halo is just your average coridor shooter while farcry is openended with nonlinear levels

far cry is one of the worst FPS's i have ever played.  i could only handle a couple hours of it.  

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#40 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

Dont get me wrong, I play Halo 2 online a lot, but I just dont honestly get the massive massive hype for this game. I mean its good but not THAT good. Gears on the other hand is a different story, Gears in my book is more revolutionary then Halo, Halo is just your typical cliche First person shooter with ok graphics while Gears looks and plays amazing! Ive owned Gears for four months now and I still love it to this day and everytime I play it im just in amazement by how good the graphics are in that game. When I First played Gears the first thing that went through my mind was "THIS is one amazing game" but when I first played Halo I thought "Pretty fun, but why the hype"

It just kind of saddens me how Average games like Halo get so much hype while other great games such as the MGS 4 and Mass effect are going to be so much better on so many levels yet people dont seem to care whatsoever about those games.

imprezawrx500

im sorry but in not one way is halo average. its definantly the most exciting first person shooter to play. the storyline of that series is above on beyond almost every shooter(with the exception of half life). Gears on the other hand was a slow paced, more tactical, cover system shooter. Halo is more wide open, more aggressive, in terms of a multiplayer experience Halo pretty much all console shooters out of the water. gears is an awesome game. so are call of duty, timesplitters,etc. But Halo is one of the best games out there, it is by no means average.

go and play some pc fps and halo wont seem so good. halo has noting on your average pc shooter, yes on consoles its above average but not on pc

*looks at PC FPS library next to PC, including half life,half life 2, CS, UT2004, Quake 1-4, BF2, STALKER, and Call of duty 2*

.......no. 

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When will people learn that Halo 1 came out in 2001, and showed the world on how a fps should be done...............Hell it even showed up Most PC shooters, infact the only one it didnt show up at that time was Half Life 1(which is debatable)

Serouisly im really sick of all this Halo 1 bashing most of you had probably played it in 2004 when (90%) of shooters out there were infulanced by it

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Dont get me wrong, I play Halo 2 online a lot, but I just dont honestly get the massive massive hype for this game. I mean its good but not THAT good. Gears on the other hand is a different story, Gears in my book is more revolutionary then Halo, Halo is just your typical cliche First person shooter with ok graphics while Gears looks and plays amazing! Ive owned Gears for four months now and I still love it to this day and everytime I play it im just in amazement by how good the graphics are in that game. When I First played Gears the first thing that went through my mind was "THIS is one amazing game" but when I first played Halo I thought "Pretty fun, but why the hype"

It just kind of saddens me how Average games like Halo get so much hype while other great games such as the MGS 4 and Mass effect are going to be so much better on so many levels yet people dont seem to care whatsoever about those games. 

BrutonNYC

If you have played both and you seriously think Gears is a better game than Halo 1/2, excluding graphics obviously, then I think you just don't have a clue as to what makes a great game.

Gears is a pretty good game with great graphics but Halo 1/2 are trully great games, and they did more for gaming that Gears ever will...

 

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#43 CwlHeddwyn
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i think Halo, Halo2 & Gears of War are ALL GREAT GAMES!
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#44 lespaul1919
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When will people learn that Halo 1 came out in 2001, and showed the world on how a fps should be done...............Hell it even showed up Most PC shooters, infact the only one it didnt show up at that time was Half Life 1(which is debatable)

Serouisly im really sick of all this Halo 1 bashing most of you had probably played it in 2004 when (90%) of shooters out there were infulanced by it

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how did i miss this post?

 

great post.Â