Why is Kill Zone 2 such a big deal?

Nice, ignoring the vast online heirarchy and gorgeous visuals. Nice.

I guess Gamespot doesn't know what a good game is either. Giving it a 9.0... jeez...

I still haven't played it yet though so I can't really comment on whether it is good or not.

It's a really only a big deal for the ps3 owners that don't have a 360 or wii

It's because it isn't Flopzone 2.

And "what the heck" at your post.

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ActicEdge

It's a really only a big deal for the ps3 owners that don't have a 360 or wii

larryb007

Nice, ignoring the vast online heirarchy and gorgeous visuals. Nice.

WAIW

Killzone 2 is great. not the best game ever, but great none the less.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Nice, ignoring the vast online heirarchy and gorgeous visuals. Nice.

PS2luv

There are times when that rule doesn't work... on occasion opinions can be completely wrong. You bring up fairly valid points, however they were all part of the design, foggy visuals = motion blur, helps hide aliasing... and this along with sluggish controls (body armour and gun are heavy) gives a more defining version of realism to date on consoles.

It's a really only a big deal for the ps3 owners that don't have a 360 or wii

larryb007

I have a 360 and wii and i love this game so I fail to see your point

[QUOTE="larryb007"]

It's a really only a big deal for the ps3 owners that don't have a 360 or wii

DanteSuikoden

I have a 360 and wii and i love this game so I fail to see your point

I have a 360, PC and PS3, along with owning a PSP and DS in the past. So his point is obiously wrong... man I love when people make points, where there are a number of people out there, they know that can shoot it down

I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="PS2luv"][QUOTE="WAIW"]

Nice, ignoring the vast online heirarchy and gorgeous visuals. Nice.

There are times when that rule doesn't work... on occasion opinions can be completely wrong. You bring up fairly valid points, however they were all part of the design, foggy visuals = motion blur, helps hide aliasing... and this along with sluggish controls (body armour and gun are heavy) gives a more defining version of realism to date on consoles.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Nice, ignoring the vast online heirarchy and gorgeous visuals. Nice.

PS2luv

Great job assuming things! Yes, you're so very mature.

I actually don't like Killzone much, but it's understandable why so many people are interested in it. That's what your thread title asks, right? But wait, I have a PS3, I HAVE to love KZ2 :roll:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?PS2luv

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?PS2luv

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?PS2luv

I don't see how your points are valid in the first place aside from just adding your two cents in (blog) or trying to rile up fans of the game.

The weapons: There are many different visions/stories/whatever about what futuristic weapons and alien tech should look like. Look at Halo with the Needler, Mass Effect and its weaponry, Star Trek and the weapons they use there. Its the vision of the creators,there is no predetermined way futuristic weapons should look. Besides, if you look at the... 1970s and see what they say about the year 2000 we should have had flying cars, holograms and what-not for all of society to use.

The Helghast: How else are enemies in suits supposed to look? Should one be wearing the suit in its gray armor and then another be in a clown costume? There's a sort of realism to it when they all look the same being a part of the same army.

Controls: I can not comment on these, but people seem to enjoy them just fine and the Gamespot review said they take some getting used to but it works out very well when you are used to them.

Visuals: It looks sharp and clear to me when I look at the game, save for the motion blur which I think is a really nice design choice.

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ActicEdge

I'll go with a -1. Seriously the visuals are well done and it presents an intense firefight filled experience. I really don't see the control issues. I've had no problems with them. There are several setups to choose from for the controls and #2 worked great for me.

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[QUOTE="larryb007"]

It's a really only a big deal for the ps3 owners that don't have a 360 or wii

lundy86_4

I have a 360 and wii and i love this game so I fail to see your point

I have a 360, PC and PS3, along with owning a PSP and DS in the past. So his point is obiously wrong... man I love when people make points, where there are a number of people out there, they know that can shoot it down

I have a DS and PSP as well but I'm a bit skeptical on a gaming rig:P

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ActicEdge

I'd give it ab out a 0. It broke your scale. :P

[QUOTE="PS2luv"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?lundy86_4

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

[QUOTE="PS2luv"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am a PS3 owner, among others. I am a huge Halo fanboy, and I love most FPS games. KZ2 is not perfect, but its very very good. Why make a new account to bash it?Zassimick

I don't see how your points are valid in the first place aside from just adding your two cents in (blog) or trying to rile up fans of the game.

The weapons: There are many different visions/stories/whatever about what futuristic weapons and alien tech should look like. Look at Halo with the Needler, Mass Effect and its weaponry, Star Trek and the weapons they use there. Its the vision of the creators,there is no predetermined way futuristic weapons should look. Besides, if you look at the... 1970s and see what they say about the year 2000 we should have had flying cars, holograms and what-not for all of society to use.

The Helghast: How else are enemies in suits supposed to look? Should one be wearing the suit in its gray armor and then another be in a clown costume? There's a sort of realism to it when they all look the same being a part of the same army.

Controls: I can not comment on these, but people seem to enjoy them just fine and the Gamespot review said they take some getting used to but it works out very well when you are used to them.

Visuals: It looks sharp and clear to me when I look at the game, save for the motion blur which I think is a really nice design choice.

Gotta agree with all your points, Not a bigfan of " teh lazer beams" in FPS's . PLus after playing RE 5 for a few hours, KZ 2's controls feel godly.

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[QUOTE="PS2luv"] Why would you say that I made a new account just to bash it? Just because I decided to jump in and finally write something doesn't mean my points are any less valid.PS2luv

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PS2luv"] Why would you say that I made a new account just to bash it? Just because I decided to jump in and finally write something doesn't mean my points are any less valid.PS2luv

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PS2luv"] Why would you say that I made a new account just to bash it? Just because I decided to jump in and finally write something doesn't mean my points are any less valid.PS2luv

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

Actually I, along with a couple other posters negated your points in a previous post, you just skipped over them. God forbid I have to press a button to go up and down ladders... because looking up and running forward is so much more realistic. I'm glad you bring in your opinion but it's a shame that 99% of the gaming world disagrees with you, which in other words basically means you're wrong

[QUOTE="PS2luv"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

you're a level 1 with few posts, which means you haven't been reading the forums for long as you can level up without posting ya know... which makes your point moot

WAIW

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

and motion blur is realistic... if something moves fast the eye perceives it as bluring. turn you heard fast.. hell, stand up and spin round... things blur dude

I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.PS2luv

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

[QUOTE="PS2luv"] Actually, my points are very valid... rather than address what I wrote you are attacking my "forum points". Killzone 2 is slow no matter what weapon you are holding, the pistol ( plus, you cant get rid of the thing and hold 2 good weapons) or the bolt gun The motion blur is ehhh, I dont care if its for aliasing, it kind of takes away from all the technical praise its received... Plus, you have to press "O" to go up and down ladders???? thetruespin

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

It's more of an issue with sensitivity, which you can't customize enough in my opinion. Moving around feels slow slow and awkward... Some people just don't like it.

I read a few posts in these forums and well, it sounds like PS3 owners dont know what a good game is. Killzone 2 is good at best. The visuals are foggy, the controls are slow, the weapons are definitely not from a futuristic alien world and the bad guys look all the same. Call of Duty 4 and World at war are so much more fun and call of duty 4 looks better.PS2luv

I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.PS2luv

Have you served in the military or know anybody who has? You carry your main rifle and a sidearm... you don't carry numerous weapons

On top of this... using laser rifles would just detract from the feel of the game... using firearms with realistic ammunition is much more desirable

I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.PS2luv

Sometimes good ol' hot lead just gets the job done.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

[QUOTE="PS2luv"] Actually, my points are very valid... rather than address what I wrote you are attacking my "forum points". Killzone 2 is slow no matter what weapon you are holding, the pistol ( plus, you cant get rid of the thing and hold 2 good weapons) or the bolt gun The motion blur is ehhh, I dont care if its for aliasing, it kind of takes away from all the technical praise its received... Plus, you have to press "O" to go up and down ladders???? thetruespin

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

and motion blur is realistic... if something moves fast the eye perceives it as bluring. turn you heard fast.. hell, stand up and spin round... things blur dude

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

PS2luv

and motion blur is realistic... if something moves fast the eye perceives it as bluring. turn you heard fast.. hell, stand up and spin round... things blur dude

as it was designed to be... by the developer... so what is your point? that you can't spin on a point like Halo?

[QUOTE="PS2luv"]I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.thetruespin

My uber-futuristic gun shoots out Jedi with an alternative fire to shoot Sour Skittles. The neon-sparkliness that Sour Skittles have give off the impression of futuristic. ;)

The weapons in Killzone 2 are a design choice. I find it hard to believe that the selection of weapons are so unbelievable that the complaint is valid, especially since I don't think I've heard a single reviewer mention something about the weapons detracting from the experience.

Well, this is just not a popular opinion. I don't think that it is a big deal either, but you can't deny that it IS a great game. Even if it''s being judged vs. other games, it's still great. You can't take anything from it. Big deal? I don't know. I went to the midnight release for it (I work at night and figured I should just pick it up when I can) and they had 5 guys including ME. I think that it's only a big deal on gaming sites etc. Not to many casuals concerned about it. In my opinion at least.

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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Most people are fine with the lethargic controls. I'll admit it's been annoying me for the past dozen hours, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Again, the motion blur is something most people accept, probably because it actually looks kind of pretty.

Yea, pressing 'O' for ladders and those inane Sixaxis mini-games is annoying... But is that really one of your complaints? It hardly detracts from the experience to press O once in awhile.

PS2luv

and motion blur is realistic... if something moves fast the eye perceives it as bluring. turn you heard fast.. hell, stand up and spin round... things blur dude

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="PS2luv"]I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.Zassimick

My uber-futuristic gun shoots out Jedi with an alternative fire to shoot Sour Skittles. The neon-sparkliness that Sour Skittles have give off the impression of futuristic. ;)

The weapons in Killzone 2 are a design choice. I find it hard to believe that the selection of weapons are so unbelievable that the complaint is valid, especially since I don't think I've heard a single reviewer mention something about the weapons detracting from the experience.

I think it's more unrealistic of us to put in laser shooting rifles.. I mean come on... I mean good old fashioned ordinance has won us numerous wars and battles... and a bullet in the body is probably going to hurt a hell of a lot more than a laser shot

I cant believe some of you are defending the weapon selection! We're suppose to be invading a futuristic alien world and there are racks upon racks of rifles, shot guns and other earthly world war 2 style weapons.PS2luv