Why is PC in SW if nobody owns it?

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#1 -GhostMLD-
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Two reasons.

1. There is no way to track the sales of gaming PC's. PC's sell millions per month, but the majority bought are for other applications. How can we compare hardware sales with Wii/360/PS3 if we don't know it?

2. No company owns it. PC gaming is a free market. There are multiple PC manufacturers and apparently even MS's OS monopoly doesnt qualify as owning it either. If nobody owns the PC market, why is it in system wars?

My point is that consoles are ruled by Nintendo, MS, and Sony. We compare them all the time. But PC is like a black sheep, (has no owner and no way to track it).

How can it be included in the war if PC has no general?

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#2 Logan832
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It's mainly against PC gamers I suppose.

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#3 crunchUK
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it's just... there and it's too big to ignore.
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#4 organic_machine
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Technically, perhaps it shouldn't be included in SW. But, it is, and you can play games on PC. So, there you have it.
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#5 Hewkii
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the PC is like Anonymous. the consoles are like Habbo.
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#6 travt-down
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Why is ownership a rquirement for inclusion? It doesnt change the games.
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#7 the1stfandb
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Most pro-pc threads are about games not the system, except for PC trolls. The other threads are anti-pc trolls. Its fair for the sake of games and thats why its included.
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#8 lillefix
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I thought system wars was about who had the best games. Who cares about sales as long as you have games?
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Why is ownership a rquirement for inclusion? It doesnt change the games.travt-down

the main purpose of SW is to compare games, hardware sales, and the companies themselves

PC only meets 1 requirement.

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[QUOTE="travt-down"]Why is ownership a rquirement for inclusion? It doesnt change the games.-GhostMLD-

the main purpose of SW is to compare games, hardware sales, and the companies themselves

PC only meets 1 requirement.

That doesn't answer the question. Why is ownership a requirement?

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#11 tramp
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I thought system wars was about who had the best games. Who cares about sales as long as you have games? lillefix

People with no games (Wii & PS3 owners) need to justify investing so much money on paperweights.

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#12 carlisledavid79
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Contradiction much. You were fine wanting to include 360 and PC when it comes to exclusives. Its a viable format so its included here.

Deal with it

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#13 naval
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because we play games not sales or companies
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#14 anshul89
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I thought system wars was about who had the best games. Who cares about sales as long as you have games? lillefix
its about having the most high quality exclusives and games. theres no way we can decide which system has the best games
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#15 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

[QUOTE="travt-down"]Why is ownership a rquirement for inclusion? It doesnt change the games.XaosII

the main purpose of SW is to compare games, hardware sales, and the companies themselves

PC only meets 1 requirement.

That doesn't answer the question. Why is ownership a requirement?

Its one of the foundations of SW, to compare the companies themselves that own the systems.

Either way, we also compare hardware sales, and there is no way to find that out.

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#16 linkin_guy109
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I thought system wars was about who had the best games. Who cares about sales as long as you have games? lillefix

it is somewhat, but having a plethora of great games can only take you so far, people have to support your console, the dreamcast had a whole crap load of great games and sega had to bid out of the console race because they didnt have enough support for the dreamcast

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#17 -GhostMLD-
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because we play games not sales or companiesnaval

clearly ur in the wrong place. Sales and companies is what SW is all about....along with games.

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#18 mingo123
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it plays games

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#19 XaosII
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

[QUOTE="travt-down"]Why is ownership a rquirement for inclusion? It doesnt change the games.-GhostMLD-

the main purpose of SW is to compare games, hardware sales, and the companies themselves

PC only meets 1 requirement.

That doesn't answer the question. Why is ownership a requirement?

Its one of the foundations of SW, to compare the companies themselves that own the systems.

Either way, we also compare hardware sales, and there is no way to find that out.

You were saying? I wasnt aware you made the rules.... not that you've even been here long enough to know about SW's "foundation." At this point your obvious reply is that you've been here longer and this is a newer account. It doesn't change the validity of the link i posted nor make your statements any more credible.

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#20 Jamex1987
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This is the first thing I noticed. How can you compare a console to a computer with no set hardware specifications? That makes no sense at all to me.

I know most websites have what they call console wars but here it's different. Maybe they don't want the PC gamers here to feel left out.

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#21 carlisledavid79
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Bu bu bu we should include teh pc when it comes to the 360

Ghosts contradictory blog.

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#22 aroxx_ab
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Ok then, how is Ps3 in SW if no1 play games on it and only play movies?
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#23 Meu2k7
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Many Machines, even mobiles run games, hell if your Television does these days with little sattelite minigames.

Difference is, in all major gaming sites and so forth, PC is included and recognized as one of the Titans. Thus, its in here too.

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#24 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]because we play games not sales or companies-GhostMLD-

clearly ur in the wrong place. Sales and companies is what SW is all about....along with games.

are companies really discussed outside their gaming activities ? even blu ray disccussions were not allowed although they were so crucial for sony. when was the last time people here discussed the annual results of a company ?

as far sales are concerned they are only discussed because they affect userbase and thus they affect the demand for games. for pc you can get the idea for the demand by seeing how many gaming gpus were sold etc. if you look the last thread on sales was a pc one related to number of nvidia gpus sold.

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#25 carlisledavid79
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We got threads left and right comparing the 360 and PS3's 08 lineups. Why do the cows convientely leave out the 360/PC games?

They arent exclusive, HOWEVER:

1. For console gamers, those games cant be found anywhere else except 360.

2. When comparing the 360 and PS3 lineup, those games are simply and undeniabily on 360 and NOT PS3.

3. If they are good games, so what if they have a PC version? If it aint on PS3 then it deserves to be part of 360's list.

To name a few off the top of my head:

Frontlines: Fuel of war (better then Haze), Age of Conan, Left for Dead (Big game here), Supreme Commander, C&C 3: Kanes Wrath, Warhammer, Sacred 2: Fallen Angel, Two Worlds: Temptation.

For a few PC/360 games listed there (much more 08 ones, they all are or have AA potential. So when comparing 360's and PS3's 08 games, throw in 360/PC and PS3/PC games as well.

Too bad there arent any PS3/PC games lol.


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#26 Acemaster27
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plus no one on SW has a pc
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#27 Fignewton50
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This is a gaming forum, where we talk about games. The PC has games right? People could hype cellphone games if they really wanted to, not having ownership on the platform takes nothing away from the game itself.
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#28 VoodooGamer
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Hes probably just too tired of getting owned by PC gamers everytime he starts a useless thread bashing them. His solution? Kick em' out!
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#29 Nitrous2O
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You know, I could sort of agree with you there Ghost...

However, from some of the comments I've seen in system wars, there are alot of people here -- not all of course -- that desperately need to be exposed to gaming PCs as much as possible and educated by PC gamers. Seriously :P

Probably a good thing the PC is included ;)

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#30 VoodooGamer
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You know, I could sort of agree with you there Ghost...

However, from some of the comments I've seen in system wars, there are alot of people here -- not all of course -- that desperately need to be exposed to gaming PCs as much as possible and educated by PC gamers. Seriously :P

Probably a good thing the PC is included ;)

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Or else the ratio of gamers who think that a PC has to cost $4000+ to run Crysis would rise dramatically. Were here to inform unless your Painballz.

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#31 Andrew_Xavier
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It's still a gaming platform, you can buy (some of the best games this gen) for it, and lots of emerging companies support it, whether or not it's universally made by one company is inconsequential, it's a gaming platform, so, it's here.