Why is The Conduit hated so much?

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#1 Yukoie
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It was underrated in my opinion. It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii, just because some sheep hyped it as a halo killer why is it a bad game? Didnt Scribblenauts flop? it that a bad game? no. Im new around here so I just wanna know why so much hate for a fun Wii game?? PS - I think Gamespot rated it a 6.5 because there comparing it to ps3, 360 and PC shooters and of course Wii FPS games arent nearly as good as those systems but as a Wii FPS wouldnt it be like a solid 8.0?

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#2 beekayjay
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Never played it but hate for games that have been hyped up as system saviours is not uncommon. Same thing happened to Killzone 2. Its hype backlash.
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#3 dkrustyklown
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I agree. I enjoyed The Conduit a lot. The multiplayer is lots of fun. I'm not getting to play it as much at the moment, though, because I'm also having lots of fun with DDO now that it's free-to-play.

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and is the best FPS on the Wii

Yukoie

Dude, that's just being cruel to Metroid Prime 3...

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First off, welcome to the frontlines, son. Keep your fanboy head low and you'll be alright. Second Gmespot, not Gamestop, rates games. The other sells them. I agree the Conduit is a fun, well built shooter on the Wii. I say 7.5-8
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#6 AmayaPapaya
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The game is a little underrated. Saying it is the worst FPS this gen is just silly. And saying that all the sheep hyped it is also silly. The only people that hyped it were Conduit Fans. Most sheep knew it was nothing speacial.

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#7 Yukoie
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First off, welcome to the frontlines, son. Keep your fanboy head low and you'll be alright. Second Gmespot, not Gamestop, rates games. The other sells them. I agree the Conduit is a fun, well built shooter on the Wii. I say 7.5-8cainetao11

First I am not a fanboy and :oops: I wrote gamestop?

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#8 CaptainHarley
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i didnt read your post because you used that weird orange text.

in response to the title, which im assuming is the post summed up in one go, i dont think the conduit is hated. it just is acknowledge in general as being a mediocre game. when i played it, it was pretty good. and i think thats exactly how most people view it; pretty good. the problem is that when you can be playing something incredibly awesome, theres no reason to waste time with something mediocre.

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#9 Yukoie
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[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

and is the best FPS on the Wii

MetroidPrimePwn

Dude, that's just being cruel to Metroid Prime 3...

MP3 is a FPA isnt it?

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#10 zarshack
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It was underrated in my opinion. It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii, just because some sheep hyped it as a halo killer why is it a bad game? Didnt Scribblenauts flop? it that a bad game? no. Im new around here so I just wanna know why so much hate for a fun Wii game?? PS - I think Gamespot rated it a 6.5 because there comparing it to ps3, 360 and PC shooters and of course Wii FPS games arent nearly as good as those systems but as a Wii FPS wouldnt it be like a solid 8.0?

-Yukoie

Yukoie

could you please use the normal font. or a more eye friendly font, it is uncomfortable to read your post.

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I don't like the COnduit cause it wasn;t that fun to play.
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#12 110million
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

and is the best FPS on the Wii

Yukoie

Dude, that's just being cruel to Metroid Prime 3...

MP3 is a FPA isnt it?

Not a real genre technically.. anyway, its just bland, and boring, the kind of game that you can find released each month on PC by some no-name developer for a quick buck..
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#13 flazzle
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It was hyped by both the creators and fan boys, especially graphic wise and control wise. And while it delivered on the controls, it didn't deliver on the graphics nor the gameplay.

It doesn't help that there is a tremendous shortage of FPS's on Wii, so practically any one with some hype will stand out.

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It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii,

Yukoie

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

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Because (IMO) the game sucked. It wasn't that it had bad graphics (even though it did, but again, that's not why I disliked it), or due to its controls (it actually does handle ok... not as good as a shooter on the PC, but it was decent), but it was just not a good game. The weapons were generic, the enemies were generic, the sphere device thingy (can't remember its name) felt tacked on, the plot was horrible, the voice acting was B- movie quality at best... a few other things that all just added up to a game that wasn't fun... just generic. Again, this is just my opinion, and it has been influenced by games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Crysis.

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[QUOTE="Yukoie"] It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii,

randomwiiplayer

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

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#17 flazzle
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="Yukoie"] It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii,

Yukoie

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

What are other FPA's? Are there many of them? I honestly don' t know

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#18 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="Yukoie"] It was very fun and is the best FPS on the Wii,

Yukoie

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

No, it isn't. It is a shooter.

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#19 110million
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[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

randomwiiplayer

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

No, it isn't. It is a shooter.

Especially 3, it didn't feel much like "adventuring" the primary gameplay element involves shooting at enemies in first person, hence a first person shooter..
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#20 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

randomwiiplayer

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

No, it isn't. It is a shooter.

No. If you played the game you would realize there are just some shooter elements. The game has many many more adventure and platforming elements.

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#21 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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No, it isn't. It is a shooter.randomwiiplayer
Uhm, no, it isn't.
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#22 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

AmayaPapaya

No, it isn't. It is a shooter.

No. If you played the game you would realize there are just some shooter elements. The game has many many more adventure and platforming elements.

I own the trilogy, it is a shooter.

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#23 TaMuK711
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Because the game is horribly average and generic.

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#24 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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No. If you played the game you would realize there are just some shooter elements. The game has many many more adventure and platforming elements.AmayaPapaya
Yeah. Saying that Metroid Prime is a FPS is like saying that Super Metroid is a shooter. Halo 3 and Contra III are shooters. Anyone can notice the difference between those games and the Metroid ones.
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]No, it isn't. It is a shooter.IronBass
Uhm, no, it isn't.

Explain to me how it isn't.

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#26 haziqonfire
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I own the trilogy, it is a shooter.

randomwiiplayer

Its in first person. Besides that it plays nothing like a normal FPS game.

As for The Conduit -- it was a terrible game and I called it a year and a half ago when I said it would be bad and the developers would not deliver on their promises. Its honestly one of the worst games I've played on my Wii -- I beat it in 3 and a half hours in a rental, the online was laggy and a mess so I returned it the same day and felt ripped off.

Everything was bad about the game. Generic setting, ugly art direction, bad voice acting, bad music, control scheme wasn't as fluid as Prime 3/Trilogy's is -- and overall its just.. boring and dull.

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#27 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Explain to me how it isn't.randomwiiplayer
It's a long story. In short: it's too different from FPS. Nintendo named its genre "First Person Adventure", a name the industry accepted and that's the genre it belongs to.
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#28 Yukoie
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]No, it isn't. It is a shooter.randomwiiplayer

Uhm, no, it isn't.

Explain to me how it isn't.

You owned me so bad randomwiiplayer http://au.gamespot.com/wii/action/metroidprime3/index.html?tag=result;img;1

Gamespot named it a Sci-fi FPS! YOU WIN! :D

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#29 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]Explain to me how it isn't.IronBass
It's a long story. In short: it's too different from FPS. Nintendo named its genre "First Person Adventure", a name the industry accepted and that's the genre it belongs to.

So if a FPS is long it isn't a FPS? It plays exactly like a first person shooter, it looks like a FPS, it is a FPS. Nintendo says a lot of stupid things. They denied the price cut, it is happening, they said that the Wii isn't competing with the PS3 or 360 when it obviously is.

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So if a FPS is long it isn't a FPS? It plays exactly like a first person shooter, it looks like a FPS, it is a FPS. Nintendo says a lot of stupid things. They denied the price cut, it is happening, they said that the Wii isn't competing with the PS3 or 360 when it obviously is.randomwiiplayer
The game's lenght is not what makes it hat different from FPS. Contra III and Super Metroid played and looked alike, that didn't stop them from being different genres. It's the same case here between FPS and FPA.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]Explain to me how it isn't.randomwiiplayer

It's a long story. In short: it's too different from FPS. Nintendo named its genre "First Person Adventure", a name the industry accepted and that's the genre it belongs to.

So if a FPS is long it isn't a FPS? It plays exactly like a first person shooter, it looks like a FPS, it is a FPS. Nintendo says a lot of stupid things. They denied the price cut, it is happening, they said that the Wii isn't competing with the PS3 or 360 when it obviously is.

It doesn't play exactly like an FPS at all? You go to random planets. Explore them. You go back to them instead of just demolishing everything and it is just a mission you can replay. It plays much longer than aany FPS. No multiplayer focus. You go through areas, fight huge bosses who require strategy to take down instead of random shooting. It is too different!

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#32 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]So if a FPS is long it isn't a FPS? It plays exactly like a first person shooter, it looks like a FPS, it is a FPS. Nintendo says a lot of stupid things. They denied the price cut, it is happening, they said that the Wii isn't competing with the PS3 or 360 when it obviously is.IronBass
The game's lenght is not what makes it hat different from FPS. Contra III and Super Metroid played and looked alike, that didn't stop them from being different genres. It's the same case here between FPS and FPA.

Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.

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[QUOTE="Yukoie"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

I am tired of lies. Metroid Prime Trilogy is the best FPS on the Wii, whether you like it or not.

The Conduit is hated for its lack of good gameplay in single player, and the many glitches and problems in the multiplayer. It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

flazzle

Metroid Prime is a FPA.

What are other FPA's? Are there many of them? I honestly don' t know

I would say Mirror's edge
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Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.randomwiiplayer
Eh... awesome. That has nothing to do with what I said.
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I would say Mirror's edgecainetao11
Mmmm, hardly. If anything, Mirror's Edge is a First Person Platformer.
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#36 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.IronBass
Eh... awesome. That has nothing to do with what I said.

Dang, I clicked the wrong quote.

If they do exactly what the genre's name implies, they belong in that genre. In Metroid Prime you are looking at it in a first person view, and you are shooting. You do go on an adventure, but there are a lot of FPS games that are exactly like it. It belongs in the FPS genre.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]So if a FPS is long it isn't a FPS? It plays exactly like a first person shooter, it looks like a FPS, it is a FPS. Nintendo says a lot of stupid things. They denied the price cut, it is happening, they said that the Wii isn't competing with the PS3 or 360 when it obviously is.randomwiiplayer

The game's lenght is not what makes it hat different from FPS. Contra III and Super Metroid played and looked alike, that didn't stop them from being different genres. It's the same case here between FPS and FPA.

Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.

Firsst of all, name the shooting elements in Metroid Prime. I bet i can counter it with atleast twice as many things as you say.

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Honestly, I can tell this game is average and I haven't even played it.

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If they do exactly what the genre's name implies, they belong in that genre.randomwiiplayer
By that -very flawed- logic, every game that send you on an adventure is an adventure game. Every game you can shoot something is a shooter. Every game you play the role of a character is a RPG. Every game that has action on it is an action game. Every game you can jump in is a platformer. That... makes no sense at all.
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#40 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] The game's lenght is not what makes it hat different from FPS. Contra III and Super Metroid played and looked alike, that didn't stop them from being different genres. It's the same case here between FPS and FPA.AmayaPapaya

Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.

Firsst of all, name the shooting elements in Metroid Prime. I bet i can counter it with atleast twice as many things as you say.

A variety of weapons, you are shooting (obviously :P), armor, there are more.

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#41 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.

randomwiiplayer

Firsst of all, name the shooting elements in Metroid Prime. I bet i can counter it with atleast twice as many things as you say.

A variety of weapons, you are shooting (obviously :P), armor, there are more.

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

You need a better list

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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Not really, in The Conduit you go on an adventure, in FEAR you go on an adventure, they are FPS.

randomwiiplayer

Firsst of all, name the shooting elements in Metroid Prime. I bet i can counter it with atleast twice as many things as you say.

A variety of weapons, you are shooting (obviously :P), armor, there are more.

There are a variety of weapons in games like Final Fantasy and Uncharted, both of which you shoot things. They are not FPS. Next.

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#43 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Firsst of all, name the shooting elements in Metroid Prime. I bet i can counter it with atleast twice as many things as you say.

AmayaPapaya

A variety of weapons, you are shooting (obviously :P), armor, there are more.

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

You need a better list

Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

A variety of weapons, you are shooting (obviously :P), armor, there are more.

randomwiiplayer

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

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Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

Try it's in first person and you shoot. It's an FPS. -_-
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

You need a better list

Crossel777

Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

Try it's in first person and you shoot. It's an FPS. -_-

The primary goal in Metroid is to explore, not to shoot. It's not and FPS.

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#46 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

You need a better list

Crossel777

Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

Try it's in first person and you shoot. It's an FPS. -_-

Try reading the entire conversation.

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#47 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Armor? Isn't Halo the only FPS with Armor. There are many other games with it. Just because you shoot doesn't mean it is a shooter. R&C you shoot.

You need a better list

Crossel777

Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

Try it's in first person and you shoot. It's an FPS. -_-

Racing games can also be played in first person. Just because it is first person doesn't make it out to be a shooter. And an FPA isn't something Nintendo just made up. There are more game like that than you think. Games such as Myst and even Phoenix Wright have these elements. Many games you shoot things and they aren't shooter.

In Metroid you can go back and explore areas instead of just going to the next mission, you have a widerange of collectables, There aren't that many enemies in the game compare to an FPS, you use Strategy to take out bosses an enemys, You have visors to peer at your world ina different way.

Metroid Prime is just another way for you to perceive the Metroid world. Zelda OOT was originally going to be first person. Does that mean it was going to be an FPS. Same with Oblivion.

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[QUOTE="Crossel777"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Let me think, it is almost 11:30pm, I can't think straight.

randomwiiplayer

Try it's in first person and you shoot. It's an FPS. -_-

Try reading the entire conversation.

No.
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#49 kenakuma
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Lol at the classic Metroid Prime debate :lol:

I'm playing Trilogy right now and if I had to label the game I'd say its an FPS! Not gonna get super technical with you guys as to why just putting down my vote.

As for the Conduit, I own the 360/Wii combo and I agree, as a Wii FPS its around the 7.5 range, however in comparison to the PS3/360/PC FPS's available its definetly 6.5 and below.

I agree with GS's review for many different reasons, one of the big ones being how they rated it in relation to other FPS offered on other consoles as well as the wii! IGN's review seemed more like "for an FPS on the wii" and thats not right to rate Wii games like their on a lower level than the 360/PS3/PC and we should just all have lowered standards or something! Plus IGN also hyped the game up alot with all their coverage and prieviews leading up to the release so they would have looked pretty bad rating any lower than they did!

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#50 Chojuto
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It has one of the best stories this gen though, and Wii haters, I have proof. Read it and weep. Just because it has a good story, does not mean it was presented well.

randomwiiplayer

I agree. The Conduit's story is vastly under appreciated.