Why is the Playstation faltering?

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#1 kvally
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Seems like there are a lot of people worried about how the PlayStation brand seems to be headed down hill as of lately. Outside of the hardware sales, we are not happy with the lack of focus on the games from Sony. It is no longer early in the generation, as we are headed into our third year. It seems we have lost out on true gaming, only because Sony seems to be resting on their laurels due to the great hardware sales. Those sales will peak at some point, and then they won't have much left unless they make some drastic changes.

Looking at the most recent trend of everything gaming on our PlayStation, it seems very troubling. What we are noticing are a bunch of things that can be recovered from, but have put a definite impact on the PS brand.

  • Lack of AAA exclusives, especially over the last 7 months. We had Until Dawn in August, then it wasn't until February that we received Street Fighter (and even that is multi platform, also on Microsoft Windows). Until Dawn gave us a lowly score of 79 on Metacritic with a luke warm reception. Street Fighter then lowered the bar with a dismal 77, and user scores that were half of that. Lack of content, broken online, average graphics, and sales that failed to match previous iterations. To top it off, we won't have our next exclusive until April, with Uncharted 4. That title has already been downgraded to 30fps single player, a less than stellar looking multiplayer and we only are being shown cut scenes in the trailers.
  • When we do get exclusives, they are not even managing to do as well as comparable exclusives on the competing system. If we look at KI2 vs. SFV, it's a 85 vs 77. If we look at Forza Horizon 2 vs. DriveClub, it's 87 vs. 71. If we look at Halo 5 vs. Killzone 4, it's 84 vs. 73. Sunset Overdrive vs. Infamous is 81 vs 80. And where is our Gran Turismo, STILL? The last two GT's haven't matched the scores of Forza lately either.Then Rise of the Tomb Raider comes in, has great scores, great sales, wins graphics awards, story awards and character awards.
  • Why are sales of games like Black Ops 3 and Star Wars doing better on the competing system, when Sony through all their marketing money into those games?
  • They seem to be letting PSN sit still too with no sizeable improvements that have been requested time and time again. The dashboard seems to be sitting still, and the store is still a mess. And the titles we used to get for our plus sub have been less and less exciting and desired.
  • Why were they relying so much on indie titles before, and now seem to have less of a focus on them, where is the competition seems to be bring back the focus in spades?
  • Will we get some improvements in hardware such as better controller battery life, improved dpad, and a controller for tournaments?
  • Why are we seeing more and more games being shared with PC, and more of their developers like SOE, Insomniac games going multiplatform? Exclusives like Rocket League going to competing platforms too.

What are your thoughts on this trend?

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#2 emgesp
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The lineup of games for the PS4 this year is pretty impressive, so I'm seeing nothing but nitpicking from you.

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#3 kvally
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@emgesp said:

The lineup of games for the PS4 this year is pretty impressive, so I'm seeing nothing but nitpicking from you.

So you can't address why they are faltering based on my comments above?

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#4 TheEroica  Moderator
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I don't think they're faltering, I just think the concept of bragging one console is factually better than another is on life support. The industry doesn't nurture true exclusive games any longer and therefor it's easy to surmise the folks playing on an xone are enjoying it as much as those with a ps4... The consoles and the AAA space is just mad boring, but no one is really faltering.... Theyre just as exciting as buying a DVD player... Does the same stuff as all the other ones.

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#5 dobzilian
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TLDR : Hardcore Gamerz on the NX hype Train.

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#6 aigis
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Didnt this thread get locked?

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#7 kvally
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@TheEroica said:

I don't think they're faltering, I just think the concept of bragging one console is factually better than another is on life support. The industry doesn't nurture true exclusive games any longer and therefor it's easy to surmise the folks playing on an xone are enjoying it as much as those with a ps4... The consoles and the AAA space is just mad boring, but no one is really faltering.... Theyre just as exciting as buying a DVD player... Does the same stuff as all the other ones.

That is a good way to explain it I have to admit.

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#9  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@kvally: for years we've looked at the unified console concept as the boogie man, while the industry has gone ahead and sold us thousands of dollars of "different" consoles that do 95% the same thing...

What's to be excited about, from a system wars perspective...?

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#10 kvally
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@TheEroica said:

@kvally: for years we've looked at the unified console concept as the boogie man, while the industry has gone ahead and sold us thousands of dollars of "different" consoles that do 95% the same thing...

That isn't thinking outside the box, but it is. Those are great points.

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#11 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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- Marketleader

- Biggest games library

- Biggest mindshare

- Faltering

^ One of those things is not like the others

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#12 Salt_The_Fries
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@NathanDrakeSwag: ?

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#13 jcrame10
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@kvally: stopped reading at "uncharted 4 less than stellar multiplayer"

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#14 gago-gago
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I think they're doing ok now but once PSVR arrives, that's when I think they could have major problems especially on how hard they want to push the product. A lot of resources, marketing and gaming budget seem to be pushed towards PSVR, so I think this could really affect their game line up quality negatively. And with their PSNow cloud gaming service, they seem to distance them shelves from dedicated PlayStation hardware but focus on getting PlayStation content on more non-gaming hardware instead.

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Since I own all current-gen consoles, [PC as well] I honestly don't care one way or another. I got lots of stuff to play while the big 3 get there AAA games ready as I wait.

Also this gen, both Sony & MS have underestimate there own consoles this gen, we see way more delays then last-gen and making AAA games is gonna take some time now.

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#16 kvally
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@deeph: read op

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#17 QuadKnight
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@deeph said:

- Marketleader

- Biggest games library

- Biggest mindshare

- Faltering

^ One of those things is not like the others

Yup, OP is on drugs.

Don't do cocaine OP.

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#18 Heil68
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Well when you have an unprecedented amount of exclusive GOTY's a, 2 top 5 GOATS and a perfect 10/10 exclusive and come out a year+ later than competition, you know you are doing something right with PS3 and it could be hard to live up to that world class gaming.

Then you realize that PS4 is current gen 8 console leader with over 900+ games and SDC is intact.

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#20 kvally
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@jcrame10: you are missing out then

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#21  Edited By deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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@kvally said:

@deeph: read op

I did. Its filled with halftruths and straight up lies.

BTW cherry picked points are not a trend.

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#22 kvally
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@StrongBlackVine: let's keep the thread mature and free of insults

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#23 jcrame10
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@kvally: on a good troll thread?

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#24 kvally
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@jcrame10: ?

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#25  Edited By aigis
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@jcrame10: Just because you are a troll doesnt mean you cant be classy

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#26 kvally
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@deeph: facts only in OP.

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#27 lostrib
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I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

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#28 kvally
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@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

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#29 Primorandomguy
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This thread shows how defensive and pathetic cows are. This guy posts facts, and cows attack with name calling. Stay classy. Anyway I agree. The PS4 isn't a very good console.

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#30 lostrib
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@kvally said:
@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

oh, so i was right

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#31 kvally
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@lostrib: I guess so, if you were saying PS fans. Then yes.

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#32 Zero_epyon
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@kvally said:
@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

Names...

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#33 Zero_epyon
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TC is always around when nyadc takes a break...

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#34 kvally
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@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:
@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

Names...

Ok.....

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#35 Zero_epyon
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@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:
@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

Names...

Ok.....

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

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#36  Edited By kvally
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@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:

Other PS fans such as myself.

Names...

Ok.....

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill
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#37 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Zero_epyon said:

TC is always around when nyadc takes a break...

One of his many alts.

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#38 nintendoboy16
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How exactly can they be faltering when dang near everyone is on Sony support mode?

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#39 kvally
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Zero_epyon said:

TC is always around when nyadc takes a break...

One of his many alts.

We still love you and your alt. It's epic.

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#40 aigis
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@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:

Other PS fans such as myself.

Names...

Ok.....

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

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#41 kvally
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@aigis said:
@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Names...

Ok.....

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

Damn straight!!

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#42  Edited By SolidTy
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@aigis said:
kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

List of random names.com.

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#43  Edited By kvally
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@SolidTy said:
@aigis said:
kvally said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Ok let me be clearer. Provide some names or it didn't happen.

  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

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#44 PapaTrop
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Playstation falters with hardcore gamer. No games to play.

Lucky Sony good at advertise to casual

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#45  Edited By SolidTy
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kvally said:
@SolidTy said:
@aigis said:
kvally said:
  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

List of random names.com.

Random trolling pic?

I wrote five words calling out GS/lame joke. Meh.

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#46 kvally
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@SolidTy said:
kvally said:
@SolidTy said:
@aigis said:
kvally said:
  • BryannaMullett
  • CorinnaBrackins
  • LoydBockelman
  • SharleneTichenor
  • KevenOrbison
  • SeasonFlicker
  • CasieCardinale
  • RosanneFreda
  • OmegaVester
  • LuanneChaidez
  • DamonWebber
  • EmaMccormick
  • RachalHogue
  • EvelinMccloy
  • LeonaMusto
  • ContessaLehr
  • EmilyVives
  • AlvaroLueders
  • MeghanStaff
  • WilberRoche
  • NicolasSayers
  • KortneyBurkitt
  • CarlosGosnell
  • LoriStretch
  • LatiaStefaniak
  • CalandraParish
  • HattieGalbraith
  • MarielaShine
  • VanitaShead
  • ElzaCaouette
  • BillieJorgensen
  • BradlyReinoso
  • MelissiaBenner
  • TasiaPietila
  • ShilohShaw
  • PeterEno
  • ViolaBald
  • CatheyBurrough
  • KashaGutierres
  • MichellIsaac
  • JackiBarcus
  • JuliusTokarz
  • LashawnHanneman
  • KirbyBoyko
  • EarleneStack
  • GiseleLogsdon
  • AureaLipman
  • EvelinaBellomy
  • EbonySelander
  • RonnyRudisill

If you cant trust HattieGalbraith I dont know who you can trust

List of random names.com.

Random trolling pic?

I wrote five words calling out bs. Meh.

The list of names I posted was a joke, but that went over your head, as did the links in each name. Sadly I don't know the names of every PS gamer in the world. I don't think anyone does. Well, Sony might.

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#47  Edited By SolidTy
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kvally said:
@SolidTy said:
kvally said:
@SolidTy said:

List of random names.com.

Random trolling pic?

I wrote five words calling out GS/lame joke. Meh.

The list of names I posted was a joke, but that went over your head, as did the links in each name. Sadly I don't know the names of every PS gamer in the world. I don't think anyone does. Well, Sony might.

Nope. Nothing you type goes over anyone's head.

Someone asked for proof of your BS, you didn't have any, and typed up BS and called it a joke after lostrib called out your faux "friends". Clearly it was some sort of attempt at a joke (randomnames.com).

My tiny five word post was for those that didn't bother clicking on your long list of fake names/imaginary "friends". Meh.

@lostrib said:
kvally said:
@lostrib said:

I'm assuming that these people who are worried are your imaginary friends

Other PS fans such as myself.

oh, so i was right

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#48 UnrealGunner
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PlayStation 4 has very few exclusives, no racing games, poor online service

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#49 SolidTy
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TheEroica said:

I don't think they're faltering,

@emgesp said:

The lineup of games for the PS4 this year is pretty impressive, so I'm seeing nothing but nitpicking from you.

@aigis said:

Didnt this thread get locked?

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Pathetic M$ shill alt thread.

@quadknight said:
@deeph said:

- Marketleader

- Biggest games library

- Biggest mindshare

- Faltering

^ One of those things is not like the others

Yup, OP is on drugs.

Don't do cocaine OP.

/Thread.

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#50  Edited By casharmy
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LMAO!

Looks like it's alternate universe and system wars imaginary bubble time for lems again. :)

@kvally said:

Seems like there are a lot of people worried about how the PlayStation brand seems to be headed down hill as of lately....