Why is the PS3 Failing so Miserably?

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#1 Plug1Plug2
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Is it just the price? Lack of decent games? The archaic controller?

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks.

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#2 ithilgore2006
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Price and lack of games.
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#3 Mass_Effect
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It isn't failing
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#5 martinbarker007
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too may people are mistaking it for a Sony George Forman Grill. thats why people arent buying it. its like 10x the price of the actual george forman one!!!!
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#6 PaintballinDude
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The price and lack of alot of exclusive, my favorite Metal gear is still exclusive. But i believe losing GTA4 lost alot of foot hold for playstation. But then again it may not effect gaming this much GTA3 wasn't hyped too much (to my knowledge) and it wasn't on the playstation at all. Which still did good. Im assuming that it might have an up coming companies Ace in the hole game coming out exclusive with a little help from sony.
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#7 tango90101
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bluray and cell, which led to the insane price.

over arrogance on sony's part.

lack of committment from more game developers.

poor online compared to xbox live.

subpar graphics compared to a $299 xbox 360.

...pick one....;)

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#8 0161
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it may be doing bad compared to the other systems but that price still hasn't stopped the ps3 from reaching 2nd place or just miss out on that. just think when the ps3 price goes down it will surely outdo its rivals. the ps3 might not dominate as the ps2 did but WILL come out on top in the end.
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#9 tango90101
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It isn't failingMass_Effect

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

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pirce, games only 600 verison avabablie
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#11 0161
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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failingtango90101

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

yes but that price still gives sont 2nd place or nearly that postion. just think when the price goes down..........
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failing0161

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

yes but that price still gives sont 2nd place or nearly that postion. just think when the price goes down..........

sony is millions behind the Wii, which is#2....

think when the price goes down on the 360 before the ps3...;)

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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failingtango90101

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

Either Sony had good supply or people are not buying as many 360's. This time last year you could not find a 360 anywhere. Now, the bestbuy I just started working at has had PS3's since January.
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#14 donaldo1989
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Price, lack of games and the fact that the xbox360 is in direct competition with it and is doing very well
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Welcome Chang3. B)
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Ps3 is not failing...its the fastest-selling PS console...and it hasn't reached European market yet...
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failing0161

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

yes but that price still gives sont 2nd place or nearly that postion. just think when the price goes down..........

wii is second place.. Ps3 is third :/
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#18 asmallchild
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Is it just the price? Lack of decent games? The archaic controller?

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks.

Plug1Plug2
Why are you so jealous? Is it because you cannot afford one? Is it because you like the games and can't afford the system? Is it because the controller has both motion sensing and soon rumble? Please give me your reason. Thanks. Desperate much? Owned.
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#19 peenatrick
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I'd say that is because it isn't even available in over have the worlds population.............yet.

6 more days left then.....................BOOM.
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#20 Big_Greg
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bluray and cell, which led to the insane price.

over arrogance on sony's part.

lack of committment from more game developers.

poor online compared to xbox live.

subpar graphics compared to a $299 xbox 360.

...pick one....;)

tango90101

Yeah right GS was clearly wrong on that report they did and one member of the GS forum called them out on a mistake they made regarding shadows on madden 07 *which GS later updated on knowing they were wrong*. The ps3 is clearly more powerful and its first gen games are just as good as current gen 360 games. Imagine a year or 2 into the ps3s lifespan and how great the games will look.

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#21 ps3-nikita
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You will see the Blu-ray thing start to pickup very soon. It doesnt even matter that many people dont have a hdtv right now. In the next couple of years when this changes, which movie format do you think they will be watching hd movies on. I admit I was very so to see this and it only hit me recently. I do believe that Sony has a long planned, like a long con, you dont see it till then end. Wii is like the con you dont see until its too late. Both are either sides of the spectrum. In the end it doesnt matter if Sony has 1 bad year in 2007. 2008 it could all be turned around and people really wont give a crap. People can be very forgiving when it comes to a brand they like. I still wont be getting one.
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#22 Plug1Plug2
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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"]You will see the Blu-ray thing start to pickup very soon. It doesnt even matter that many people dont have a hdtv right now. In the next couple of years when this changes, which movie format do you think they will be watching hd movies on. I admit I was very so to see this and it only hit me recently. I do believe that Sony has a long planned, like a long con, you dont see it till then end. Wii is like the con you dont see until its too late. Both are either sides of the spectrum. In the end it doesnt matter if Sony has 1 bad year in 2007. 2008 it could all be turned around and people really wont give a crap. People can be very forgiving when it comes to a brand they like. I still wont be getting one.

I doubt I will be getting one either. The PS3 has gone from a "must have" to a "wait for a price drop" for most people. If it takes a few years for the PS3 to start selling, it may already be too late. Software support will dwindle to nothing.
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#23 Viviath
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maybe because it hasnt been released world wide yet?
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#24 Plug1Plug2
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maybe because it hasnt been released world wide yet?Viviath
How does that explain it's very poor sales in the U.S. and Japan?
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#25 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]maybe because it hasnt been released world wide yet?Plug1Plug2
How does that explain it's very poor sales in the U.S. and Japan?

Well, the poor sales in Japan and the US are due to lack of good games, but im just saying that people should put this all in perspective. Sony still hasnt tapped into one of its biggest, if not biggest, fanbases...so its still too early to call it a failure.
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Price and lack of games.ithilgore2006
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#27 peenatrick
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I think XBox enthusiasts are trying their best before the 23rd comes around.
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#28 LordoverFeind
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Is the ps3 selling as well as the 360 or have as many great games now, or cost less than the 360 = No Does this mean it is failing imo = No Why because despite all the things going against it inc. the wii, the ps3 is still selling faster than the ps2 in the same time frame. As soon as a killer app drops the ps3 sales will most likely go up. It would be stupid to count the ps3 out in less than 6 months.
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#29 DestroyAllNoobs
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I think they are failing, still, because even still the PS2 sold the same ratio the same time, they wouldn't sit on shelves for months. The problem here is the overpricing, the lack of games and the bad experience on the gaming compared to its competitors.

Let me break it down:

-Overpricing: Sony has Blu-ray! Yay! That means a new generation of DVD players! But...for now it was a risky bet for Sony to add it to PS3. Price went way up and Sony couldn't wait for the launch of the PS3, when Blu-ray were more common. If it's worth more, it's sold less, having lots of the same options on the other consoles. Maybe if the rest of the consoles were a piece of crap...it would have sold more.

-Game library is SHOOOOOOOOORT!!!: Please, gimme a break! For now, PS3's games aren't that great. Sony's got exclusives, but for now, you are not having them all.

-Gaming experience: Let's see, X360's experience bases on its superb internet connection gaming. Wii's getting focused on interactive gaming with its control. PS3? Has kind of both but in a very bad presentation. Here we go with internet. It just doesn't go. And the motion sensitive control is not Wii! The feeling is like you manipulated a panel, and not an object, or doing something translated to the in-game character (take also the facts that a very few games plan to use it and it doesn't rumble :D).

If they want to succeed, they must have started doing things right from the beginning

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1: Being $200 more than your nearest competitor
2: Nothing new, unless you want Blu-Ray
3: Lack of Games
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#31 linkhero1
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Price!
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because i said so
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#33 hamidious
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[QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]

Is it just the price? Lack of decent games? The archaic controller?

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks.

asmallchild
Why are you so jealous? Is it because you cannot afford one? Is it because you like the games and can't afford the system? Is it because the controller has both motion sensing and soon rumble? Please give me your reason. Thanks. Desperate much? Owned.

We only know that motion sensing for PS3 is a failed attempt to mimick WII, plus the rumble thing hasn't come back yet, and if it does I'm hardly exited about it when it's " A Last Generation Future". So it is trying to compete with Wii in terms of control and it's failing against a 200$ machine in that regard. It's trying to compete with XBox 360 graphically and it's failing against 400$ machine. Sounds like 600$ of wasted money to me. Thank you I would rather buy and 8800 GTX card for that kinda money.
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#34 Goldensun48
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

bluray and cell, which led to the insane price.

over arrogance on sony's part.

lack of committment from more game developers.

poor online compared to xbox live.

subpar graphics compared to a $299 xbox 360.

...pick one....;)

Big_Greg

Yeah right GS was clearly wrong on that report they did and one member of the GS forum called them out on a mistake they made regarding shadows on madden 07 *which GS later updated on knowing they were wrong*. The ps3 is clearly more powerful and its first gen games are just as good as current gen 360 games. Imagine a year or 2 into the ps3s lifespan and how great the games will look.



um sorry no, ps3 isnt more powerful xenos >> rsx, sorry buddy
try again

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You'd have to be delirious to think it'd do as well as PS2 when the price tag was unveiled.
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]Price and lack of games.axt113

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Don't believe the misleading Sony PR hype about the PS3 being the fastest selling Playstation console ever. The PS1 and PS2 each launched in Japan only for the first several months, in very limited supply, and outside the holiday season. So what they're doing is comparing sales in two regions during the holidays for the PS3 to sales in just Japan for the PS1 and PS2. What you really want to do is compare region to region or worldwide. By March of the year after the PS2 launched, it had sold almost 5M in Japan, 3M in NA, and 2.9M in PAL regions, with an extra 6 months for the Japan numbers. In contrast, PS3 has so far sold 0.8M in Japan (in a shorter time) and only 1.2M in NA in the same amount of time. Even with the PAL launch the PS3 isn't expected to sell more then 1-1.5M there. Clearly the PS3 is not doing nearly as well as the PS2 was even early on before it really took off. Just goes to show you can't take everything Sony PR says literally. :P
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#38 Daffy101
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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failingtango90101

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

I think it's funny when people say there are "shelves full" of unsold PS3's...everywhere I go there are no PS3's

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Is it just the price? Lack of decent games? The archaic controller?

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks.

Plug1Plug2
$600 Having that useless blu-ray player, a trojan horse in the format wars, in there is what makes it such an expensive system. Sony literally shot themselves in the foot with that decision.
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#40 JimJackJose
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failingDaffy101

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

I think it's funny when people say there are "shelves full" of unsold PS3's...everywhere I go there are no PS3's

You must work for Sony PR team.
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[QUOTE="Daffy101"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]It isn't failingJimJackJose

tell it to the mass media, sony's bean counters, and the shelves full of unsold ps3...:lol:

I think it's funny when people say there are "shelves full" of unsold PS3's...everywhere I go there are no PS3's

You must work for Sony PR team.

Ouch! Man you really got me on that one...you know me too well! well im off to play my 360. peace.

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#42 General909
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Ps3 is not failing...its the fastest-selling PS console...and it hasn't reached European market yet...SoulKillah


GBA is out selling it and if thats not a failer I dont know what is.
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Is it just the price? Lack of decent games? The archaic controller?

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks.

Plug1Plug2

Lets see how it does when it is in every region and has been out in the market for a year and 5 months, then we can judge that by how is it doing. Right now vcharts says MS still hasnt sold 10 million yet and its been a year and 5 months out in the market, that is bad. 9.56 million, and for a system that only cost $399 and has all these titles, must mean everyone will hold out and go buy the wii until sony brings some of the games that they are waiting for to buy the system.

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Don't believe the misleading Sony PR hype about the PS3 being the fastest selling Playstation console ever. The PS1 and PS2 each launched in Japan only for the first several months, in very limited supply, and outside the holiday season. So what they're doing is comparing sales in two regions during the holidays for the PS3 to sales in just Japan for the PS1 and PS2. What you really want to do is compare region to region or worldwide. By March of the year after the PS2 launched, it had sold almost 5M in Japan, 3M in NA, and 2.9M in PAL regions, with an extra 6 months for the Japan numbers. In contrast, PS3 has so far sold 0.8M in Japan (in a shorter time) and only 1.2M in NA in the same amount of time. Even with the PAL launch the PS3 isn't expected to sell more then 1-1.5M there. Clearly the PS3 is not doing nearly as well as the PS2 was even early on before it really took off. Just goes to show you can't take everything Sony PR says literally. :PDKII


Don't foget...PS2's only competition when it came out was the doomed Sega Dreamcast....PS3 this time has faaaaaaaaar stronger competition especially since the 360 was out a year already when it came out and if I recall...the 360 had an even rougher post launch period since they werent even filling supplies hardly til at least April! I think due to the situation this time-Sony is doing alright. without Europe they are at 1.5 Million. They are competing against and already established console and a far far far cheaper console that of course is going to sell faster (face it-a $250 console IS going to sell faster than even a $400 console)....

PS3 isn't a failure-it's just fighting a harder fight than PS2 fought. If PS3 wins-there is no way it is going to be as big a victory as last time.
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#45 Shad0ki11
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One word: Price.
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#46 jdeiana27
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The alternative is better.  Most people can not afford both consoles anymore.  Take price, games, and online play...  and it is hardly even a choice.  The graphical power is not much different between the 2 systems.  There is no compelling reason to spend 600 on a PS3...  and as long as the 360 is around, there won't be.  PS3 is in trouble.  Consoles generally don't make "comebacks" after miserable starts... 
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#47 PikaPichu
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I think it's the price and its lack of games. $600 is a lot to ask from people who want to buy it just to play games and seeing as how it just launched, there aren't that many games yet available for it.
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#48 nextgengaming18
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I think it's the price at its lack of games. $600 is a lot to ask from people who want to buy it just to play games and seeing as how it just launched, there aren't that many games yet available for it.PikaPichu
I'm pretty sure there will be a lowering of the price announced at e3. It is a feeling since, they stopped sending 20 gb ps3's out..
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#49 OhhSnap50893
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Price, by far. If the PS3 was $400 (equal to 360) or less I might very well be buying it.
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#50 alex1889
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Price and lack of games.ithilgore2006
+ delayed launch