Why isn't 4a games getting publishing rights

Curious question. Low wages due to living in a shit 3rd world country where no one makes money which will allow cheap development cost. I wonder why they aren't being published by anyone but thq and deep silver. These type of developers seem like cash cows that can obtain high profits. There must be regulations that are causing them not to find a publisher. Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense since it is free money. Please, does anyone know the answer.

wat?

If they already have a publisher, why do they need to find one

4a games is a developer in Ukraine. Their employees get paid 4x less on average than an American employee causing development costs to be dramatically less. They released two games that scored in the 80+ metacritic score. They can reasonably have a team of 200 people creating triple A title and the game would cost much less than if it was made in the states or Europe. What Europe has done recently to compete with outsourcing was to give video game developers a tax subsidy. The reason why there aren't any developers in new York area is because they were all forced to move up to Canada for tax subsidies to maximize profits. It is amazing how unknowledgable people are about the game industry.

Mindshare, sphere of influence, and advertising budget.

are you just making up buzzwords

No. These are marketing words. Sphere of influence refers to the influence that a company has on the world. It is common saying for hundred years now. It is a word that is used so commonly that I am surprised you never heard of it

Just throwing out buzzwords isn't an explanation. Plus are they even working on any games to published. They've only made the Metro games and they don't own those publishing rights

Comparing salary directly from country to country is stupid

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He isn't, he's giving (justified) reasons why choosing the right publisher is an important decision. Mindshare relates to what people's perception of the DEV team are when considering the publisher they "work" for. For example. DICE are an amazing dev team, EA suck on several fronts and DICE are victimised for that. Thats Mindshare

The others.. well if you can't work them out yourself i suggest going back to school mate :)

Just stating random words isn't an explanation. It does not justify why they need to seek a publisher.

It's probably said more in foreign countries. I think there is a different term for it in the U.S. In any case, What games did 4A Games make? They sound familar. I'm pretty sure I know one of their games. Let me look them up real quick.

Oh yes. They made the excellent Metro Last Light. They also were interviewed and said some powerful respectful words about their situation in Kiev, Ukraine. They probably want to leave Deep Silver and get a different Publisher since they were treated pretty badly by them. Another publisher would need to acquire them from Deep Silver if they are still under contract with them.

No it isn't. UK video game industry was petitioning for a while to get tax subsidies because companies were firing employees and less jobs existed in that area. After france did an outrageous tax subsidy, United Kingdom video game employers were in a frenzy to get a tax subsidy from their country for a fear of losing their job. This happened recently and you could read all about this. When you could get some artist that could create 3d maya tools in china versus America at 3/4 the cost. Companies have been doing this a ton recently. It sucks that people are unaware of how the industry works.

@lostrib:

God damn it man you are another level of stupid

If you understand the definition of the words, you understand the meaning of what he was trying to say... which is exactly why its important to find a new publisher. Don't blame him for your illiteracy... hell mate... use google or something.

Do your own research and don't rely on other to do it for you

you need skills and talent to make ANY FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT NO MATTER WHAT THE COST IS....

the akilled people end up moving to find a job. all the unskill people remain in the shit hole

I understand the meaning, I don't know why he feels they need to find a new publisher. He gave no reasons, he just threw out buzzwords. Is this really that difficult a concept? I simply want to know why he feels they need a new publisher, as well as exactly what games are they publishing. The thread title asks why their games aren't getting publishing rights, well all their games actually currently have publishing rights. And I have not heard of them working on any new games

Those three buzzwords all have 3 different meanings. Advertising budget of a larger publisher would give the game more attention. A publisher name like activision, ea, sony, or Microsoft would cause people to buy the game. They have a huge mindshare in the game industry and have outlets to show these games. 4a games has proven to be a talented studio so they shouldn't be unable to find a huge publisher. I am just surprised they haven't. I didn't feel like I needed to expand on those words.

Well for starters Deep Silver are relatively unknown compared to some publishers. THQ were known to be paying 4A sweet f**k all to 4A for their stuff and Deep Silver picked up the rights insanely cheaply. I doubt Deep Silver would have given them a bump

As you suggested, its all an unknown and everything we say it guess work, however i agree with him. Looking for a larger publisher with a new project (which they have, as they haven't disbanded as most of not all dev teams do if they end a project and don't move on)

This would allow them more funds, so more pay for the employees and a better standard of living for their hard (and much loved) work

Is that a good enough reason?

Decent

Although without Deep Silver they wouldn't have been able to finish Last Light. And I would actually suggest that many people recognize game series over publishers/devs so as long as they link they're name to Metro they will be okay. The main reason to find a publisher would be money. But with Deep Silver Metro Last Light actually did rather well, and it looks like Deep Silver wants to continue the brand.

Agreed. I just hope they pay them more... they deserve better than the agreement they had with THQ :(

On a side not, apologies if i seemed aggressive, hard day at work :( .. totally misread what you meant

God damn it how many people do you see apologising in system wars?? man its the end of the world!

This is system wars. You shouldn't apologize for shit here. I whine about everything I notice on internet. I whine about Nintendo fanboys constantly here and for good reason. They are shit. Absolute worst posters on every forum I go to. Sony fanboys usually keep to themselves and talk up how great their games are and are the most defensive group I've ever seen. Easiest people to bate. Microsoft fanboys keep to themselves but recently have decided to go full blown psycho with the fact that ps4 is more powerful and selling better than xbox one and won't accept it. Nintendo fanboys are like that invasive cancer in most gaming communities from what I've seen. They are defensive and combative at the same time. They need to say how Zelda is the most perfect series and then talk about how bad sony games are. They are the worst.

Publishing rights? 4A's not a publisher. What is this curious question?

Anyway, now that they're taking a break from the radioactive subways to go explore space, they can pitch their game around all over the place. Will it get picked up, by who, under what conditions? Who the shit knows. But I hope they get some proper backing.