Why isn't mgs4 on pc?

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#1 Nohtnym
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We know 360 might have some problems running it. But pc can easily do it with better graphics and performance.

mgs1 and mgs2 were on pc, but mgs3 and mgs4 weren't. Sony made deals?. Hopefully mgs5 (if kojima will make that it's next game) will be on pc (screw 360 and it's dvd space problem :P), mostly because I sold my ps3.

Anyway mgs4 should be on pc, so I could replay it :)

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#2 Danm_999
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Kojima has always expressed interest in working with the PC, but there really wouldn't be the audience to justify the conversion. Most people who wanted it would already have bought a PS3.
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#3 -CheeseEater-
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We know 360 might have some problems running it. But pc can easily do it with better graphics and performance.

mgs1 and mgs2 were on pc, but mgs3 and mgs4 weren't. Sony made deals?. Hopefully mgs5 (if kojima will make that it's next game) will be on pc (screw 360 and it's dvd space problem :P), mostly because I sold my ps3.

Anyway mgs4 should be on pc, so I could replay it :)

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Probably because Microsoft hasn't/didn't pay for the rights to put MGS4 on the PC. It'd cost a fair bit indeed.
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#5 deactivated-57d32c9daf505
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Probably because Microsoft hasn't/didn't pay for the rights to put MGS4 on the PC. It'd cost a fair bit indeed.

-CheeseEater-

It's not like Microsoft OWNS the PC and has to pay rights to have games on it...! What are you talking about?

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#6 Santesyu
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Kojima has always expressed interest in working with the PC, but there really wouldn't be the audience to justify the conversion. Most people who wanted it would already have bought a PS3.Danm_999
pretty much this really.
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#7 -CheeseEater-
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[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]

Probably because Microsoft hasn't/didn't pay for the rights to put MGS4 on the PC. It'd cost a fair bit indeed.

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It's not like Microsoft OWNS the PC and has to pay rights to have games on it...! What are you talking about?

MGS4 is a PlayStation exclusive. Sony isn't going to allow there binded contract to just walk out the door and allow Kojima to publish his teams work on the PC. I never said that the PC is a closed platform, it's just that a game bound exclusively to one platform (MGS4) isn't going to go freely to another (I.E. PC). And thus, it'd take someone (probably the likes of Microsoft) to be able to firstly afford, and hence sway the rights to MSG4's release platforms. Capish?
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#8 deactivated-57d32c9daf505
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Yes, but that someone would be Konami itself since it publishes its own games on PC...that's why I

misunderstood your Microsoft reference.

Of course, if Konami signed an exclusive contract with Sony, MGS4 is never gonna happen on

platforms other than the PS3.

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#9 HuusAsking
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Yes, but that someone would be Konami itself since it publishes its own games on PC...that's why I

misunderstood your Microsoft reference.

Of course, if Konami signed an exclusive contract with Sony, MGS4 is never gonna happen on

platforms other than the PS3.

djcalotta
Sony sponsored the development. That's why the Sony product placement within the game.
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#10 Espada12
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MGS rising is on PC from what I understand.. I think 4 isn't because Sony help pay for dev cost or something.. there's alot of sony stuff in the game itself.

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#11 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="djcalotta"]

Yes, but that someone would be Konami itself since it publishes its own games on PC...that's why I

misunderstood your Microsoft reference.

Of course, if Konami signed an exclusive contract with Sony, MGS4 is never gonna happen on

platforms other than the PS3.

HuusAsking

Sony sponsored the development. That's why the Sony product placement within the game.

Did Apple sponsor the development too?

Is there some sort of basis for this theory?

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#12 TheShadowLord07
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MGS rising is on PC from what I understand.. I think 4 isn't because Sony help pay for dev cost or something.. there's alot of sony stuff in the game itself.

Espada12

than the pc version has to be the lead version then.

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#13 Espada12
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="djcalotta"]

Yes, but that someone would be Konami itself since it publishes its own games on PC...that's why I

misunderstood your Microsoft reference.

Of course, if Konami signed an exclusive contract with Sony, MGS4 is never gonna happen on

platforms other than the PS3.

shinrabanshou

Sony sponsored the development. That's why the Sony product placement within the game.

Did Apple sponsor the development too?

Is there some sort of basis for this theory?

Well product placement in gaming has never really been just to look nice you know.. people pay for adverts or help with dev cost and thus get adverts.. it's the same thing really. Do you really think EA wasn't paid to put those billboards in NFS?

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#14 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Sony sponsored the development. That's why the Sony product placement within the game.Espada12

Did Apple sponsor the development too?

Is there some sort of basis for this theory?

Well product placement in gaming has never really been just to look nice you know.. people pay for adverts or help with dev cost and thus get adverts.. it's the same thing really. Do you really think EA wasn't paid to put those billboards in NFS?

Kojima has claimed that it isn't to do with merchandising. I could take him at his word that he just does it for sh!ts and giggles.

Although, I'm sure there was some sort of incentive for product placement of iPods, Triumph motorcycles, Uniqio t-shirts and Sony products in the game. The idea that Sony footed the development bill for the game based on this premise, however is silly.

Any more than Mountain Dew and Doritos paying for the development of Peace Walker.

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Only possible on teh cell!
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#16 CAPSROGUE
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Kojima has always expressed interest in working with the PC, but there really wouldn't be the audience to justify the conversion. Most people who wanted it would already have bought a PS3.Santesyu
pretty much this really.

I had to laugh at this. No audiance on the PC for MGS4? Who are you guys kidding besides yourselves? Just look at the amount of buzz MGS Rising is generating on the forums (PC sections). It's in my top 5 games I'm really looking forward too and I'm pretty sure countless of PC gamers are aswell.

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Probably the same reason it isn't on the xbox 360 (it could handle before you all start, but video would have to be compressed and sound would have to be super compressed lol). I think Sony do have exclusive rights to MSG4 even if nothing official has come out which is fair enough imo, if paying for the game to be exclusive and helping the developer means we get games of this caliber Im all for it.

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#18 xhawk27
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How much do Blu-Ray drives cost on the PC now?

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#19 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]Kojima has always expressed interest in working with the PC, but there really wouldn't be the audience to justify the conversion. Most people who wanted it would already have bought a PS3.CAPSROGUE

pretty much this really.

I had to laugh at this. No audiance on the PC for MGS4? Who are you guys kidding besides yourselves? Just look at the amount of buzz MGS Rising is generating on the forums (PC sections). It's in my top 5 games I'm really looking forward too and I'm pretty sure countless of PC gamers are aswell.

I've no doubt PC gamers want to play MGS.

What I doubt is the existence of a significant audience that both wants to play MGS, and doesn't own a console capable of playing it. Anyone who is very excited by the idea bought a PS3 long ago, whether they primarily game on the PC or not.

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#20 CAPSROGUE
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I've no doubt PC gamers want to play MGS.

What I doubt is the existence of a significant audience that both wants to play MGS, and doesn't own a console capable of playing it. Anyone who is very excited by the idea bought a PS3 long ago, whether they primarily game on the PC or not.

Danm_999

You're assuming people buy a console for 1-2 games. I can assure you most people simply say "Bah!" and move on to other games. Especially PC gamers because of the abundance of incredible games (+ multiplats) there really isn't much reason to buy a console unless you just prefer couch/controller-gaming and/or just NEED to have those exclusives.

I think PC gamers would LOVE the idea of MGS especially because stealth games on the PC (and in general) seem to be dying. There hasn't been a Thief or Hitman game in years and Splinter Cell went from an incredible stealth game to a bad JasonBourneClone. There just isn't much left really other then some games that allow you to play stealthy (Crysis, Assassin's Creed ...).

MGS is considered the ultimate stealth franchise. There would be plenty of people, without a PS3, who upon seeing MGS4 on Steam would say "HEEEYYY!! ... that's that PS3 game, but ... that's just awesome *ca-click* -$$$". Another contributing factor is that stealth games are considered a niche, a niche that happens to do fairly good on the PC more then any other platform.

EDIT: Cleaning.

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How much do Blu-Ray drives cost on the PC now?

xhawk27

the lowest one on newegg is $59.99

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Blu-Ray requirement would severely limit sales.
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#23 CAPSROGUE
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Multiple DVDs isn't a problem on the PC simply because all games are fully installed.

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How much do Blu-Ray drives cost on the PC now?

xhawk27

Blu-Ray requirement would severely limit sales.donalbane
why would you need a blu-ray drive?

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The PC can't magically take the code specifically designed to be run on the Cell. The Cell's processor uses a whole different instruction set than the typicaly x86 we see on PC CPUs.

In other words, you can't just do a straight port and it will run. You'll need to gut the engine and rewrite the entire compliers. Not possible without a big budget and time.

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#26 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]I've no doubt PC gamers want to play MGS.

What I doubt is the existence of a significant audience that both wants to play MGS, and doesn't own a console capable of playing it. Anyone who is very excited by the idea bought a PS3 long ago, whether they primarily game on the PC or not.

CAPSROGUE

You're assuming people buy a console for 1-2 games.

Not really. I assume anyone adequately enamoured with MGS4 would already have played previous iterations. Hence they had other franchises they like to follow on the Playstation consoles (off the top of my head, God of War and Gran Turismo)

Again, we can't really prove any of this, it's just a prediction.

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#27 Danm_999
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Blu-Ray requirement would severely limit sales.donalbane
It wouldn't need Blu-ray.
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#28 flashn00b
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Sony probably paid them with enough money to defictionalize the original TX-55 Metal Gear

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It will be next gen when *head explodes*.

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#30 mitu123
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Has something to do with Sony...

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#31 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Did Apple sponsor the development too?

Is there some sort of basis for this theory?

shinrabanshou

Well product placement in gaming has never really been just to look nice you know.. people pay for adverts or help with dev cost and thus get adverts.. it's the same thing really. Do you really think EA wasn't paid to put those billboards in NFS?

Kojima has claimed that it isn't to do with merchandising. I could take him at his word that he just does it for sh!ts and giggles.

Although, I'm sure there was some sort of incentive for product placement of iPods, Triumph motorcycles, Uniqio t-shirts and Sony products in the game. The idea that Sony footed the development bill for the game based on this premise, however is silly.

Any more than Mountain Dew and Doritos paying for the development of Peace Walker.

I never said Sony footed all the development costs. I said they sponsored it, meaning they contributed to some of the costs, but not necessarily all of it. You see in movies and TV all the time. Many products are or contain trademarks, and the law says you can't employ a trademark without the holder's permission. And that permission will usually involve some interchange of money. For most trademark holders, though, using a product in a movie, TV show, or game amounts to advertising, so they'll usually go to the publisher and say, "Make our stuff stand out, and we'll pay you for it." That's the way product placement sponsorships usually go.
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#32 erglesmergle
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It wouldnt be possible. You need the power of the Cell processor.

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#33 HuusAsking
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It wouldnt be possible. You need the power of the Cell processor.

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Put a good PC CPU and GPU together and you've got it in spades. Some of these new GPUs are, IIRC, capable of gigaFLOP computational power all by themselves.
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#34 Silverbond
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We know 360 might have some problems running it.

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This needs explanation.