Why It doesn't matter that the wii is market leader

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#1 mathew952
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  • I can almost guarantee that angry sheep will be bombing my house for sayign this, But the wii's audience isn't the same as the PS3 or 360's.

If your a Gamer, chances are, you wouldn't buy a Wii. It has only a few "Big" games,( Games with a main campain, not just a minigame collection) and the hardware is lacking. No More Heroes, SSBB,MP3, Galaxy, and I'll even throw in Mario kart. But the wii is still selling like hot cakes. It's not serious gamers who are buying the wii, it's people who read about it in the NYTimes, or saw it on ABC, and thought it would be a cool little toy.

YES, THEY ARE GAMERS. SIT DOWN. But they are "Casual Gamers" Simply meaning they are gamers who don't play as often as a hardcore gamer. They play spurts of 30 to 40 minutes, a few times a week. Sure, they could be playing Halo or Turok. But Odds are, they are playing games that are suited to that, such as Scene it, Gituar Hero, Wario Ware, and others.

The Wii caters to that demographic, people who aren't serious about gaming, and only play once in while, the same way some people aren't serious about hiking or canoeing, but still occasionally want to go. They provide great games for spurts, like mario party, Guitar Hero ( I'm aware it's on other systems), Wario Ware,Rayman Raving Rabbids, ect.

People like this don't want a 600 dollar console, and they don't have time or will to play through a 10 hour long Game. The PS3 and 360 don't provide for the faint of heart. They cater to "Medium" to Hardcore gamers, people who really are into it. So even if the Wii sold 100 million units, it wouldn't effect the sales or game production for the 360 and PS3 very much.

IN SHORT:

  • Wii is for people who only game once in a while, usually playing games like Scene it, and Wario Ware.
  • 360/PS3 are for the hardcore.
  • The audience is different, there fore, they don't effect each other. ( well they do, but let's not overthink it.)
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#2 mathew952
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NOTE:

This is ruling out either Microsoft or Sony dropping out, or nintendo buying them out, or Wii Online becoming Self aware and launching nukes.

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#3 Vivacioussoul
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I can't wait to see the response that this one gets. I bet they are being typed out right now.
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#4 O_Lineman17
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I have a Wii.

I have over 130 hrs logged on Oblivion

About 987 Hr on CoD2 on PC

On Average I play game for 3 hrs a night

I have been gaming since probably before you were born.

I'm guessing you're a teen that thinks he's a hardcore gamer.

The hardcore gamers are the ones that play all games, because I doubt you've touched hardly any Wii games. You just think they're "teh kiddy".

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#5 PopeReal
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Why would anyone be mad? This topic is hilarious :)

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#6 Harrick
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I'm a gamer, I have all 3, and as a gamer I wouldn't go WITHOUT the Wii.
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#7 OhSnapitz
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You make a valid argument but I do believe that the wii effects gamers... Reason being... if the wii sells 100 million units faster than the PSOne or PS2 then you'll see an influx of developers jumping on the bandwagon. You'll see compelations of mini-games and short 5-7 hour games that don't push hardware. You can already see it with the announcements(rumors) of M$ and Sony coming out with "waggle" controllers for Banjo Threeie ect.. That's one scenario.. However I believe if 3rd party games continue to do bad on the wii you'll see companies continue their support of the 360/PS3 without including the wii..
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#8 starwarsgeek112
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Quit with your hardcore gamer elitist crap. You're not better than all those Wii owners because you sit down and play games for hours on end. The Wii is for everyone, including the oh so great hardcore like yourself. I doubt you've even played a Wii.
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#9 bobbetybob
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Replies to your IN SHORT:

I play around 2 hours a day minimum, all of which is done on my Wii, I play many different games yet funnily I've never played a party game and have had my Wii since launch. Also might wanna check which console Scene It is actually on, oh yeah the "hardcore" 360...

As above, 360 is hardcore with Scene It, and what about Buzz and Singstar, their really hardcore.

Right so the audience is different so ne effect? The audience for Toy Story is different to whatever dodgy action movie came out at the same time, doesn't stop it effecting the other films sales.

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#10 umcommon
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I have Wii, 360 and PS2.........the Wii gets the most use, you fail!
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#11 magiciandude
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The question is: SO WHAT?

The DS and PS2 happened to be catering for the casuals, yet also managed to pump out hardcore games.

EDIT: Scratch that, the DS, Wii, and PS2 is meant to appeal to EVEREYONE. Regardless of your gamer's status.

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#12 shadow_hosi
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real gamers play all games

there is no 'kiddie' games

i have 25 hours in LO, hundreds in stracraft and wow and diablo 2

a good week in halo 3

50 or so of TF2

so many other games i dont feel like listing.....i can go on tho if i must

i have probably been gaming sence you were in dipers :P

i love the wii, im glad i opted for it over the ps3

it has so many more games that apeal to me, i cant wait for mario kart :D

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#13 thrones
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Err..yes it is. There was an article a while back that only 10% of wii owners didn't have a console last generation.
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#14 Mystery-
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so of the most hardcore gamers i know are wii owners
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#15 osan0
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i stopped at the very first sentence TC. "if your a gamer, chances are, you wouldn't buy a wii." thats all i looked at and thats all i needed to look at. as a gamer of almost 20 years....i have a wii and i think its friggin fantastic. that and my PC are really doing the business on the game front. i wish i could say the same thign for my other 2 consoles.

gamers dont buy wiis....pull the other one TC.

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#16 nintendofreak_2
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I guess me averaging 3-4 hours a day on Brawl makes me casual.
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#17 thomasbcperry
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If you're a "gamer" then you would probably own a 360 / PS3 and a Wii. I'm a "gamer", I just haven't picked up a PS3 yet. I"m still playing my PS2 plus have logged many hours on my Wii and DS.

The 360 and PS3 offer the same experience... if you want the entire experience this current gen has to offer then you would have to buy a Wii.

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#18 travt-down
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Someone tell me what is so great about being a 'hardcore' gamer when it seems to be about playing games as often as possible and not really enjoying it.
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#19 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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:lol: damage control because your precious 360 and ps3 are getting destroyed by the "fad"
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#20 Jaysonguy
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This is another topic trying to convince people that grandmothers and people who have never played a video game before are camping out overnight to get a Wii.

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#21 r_gam3
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i am a hardcore gamer. I only have a Wii.