Why just the simple touch pad controller? (PS4)

MS new controller - Kinect

I think it will be mainly for menu navigation and such like. Microsoft have the new Kinect with fancy voice recognition and tech to use for such things. I guess this is $ony's response to that and is the best they could come up with while having such limited funds to work with :?

I thought touch-screens were gimmicks that the "core" (aka Sony's target audience on the PS4) hated?

Or am I wrong...

jakes on you...Nextbox controller will be you moving awkwardly in your small apartment to Halo: kinect wars

It's because the UI mirrors that of touch devices (smartphones, tablets, etc) and the VITA for remote play and second screen gaming. 

Sony basically leave that stream up to gamers to decide where they want to have it (be on their iphone, VITA, etc).

jakes on you...Nextbox controller will be you moving awkwardly in your small apartment to Halo: kinect wars

KillaCattle

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jakes on you...Nextbox controller will be you moving awkwardly in your small apartment to Halo: kinect wars

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jakes on you...Nextbox controller will be you moving awkwardly in your small apartment to Halo: kinect wars

KillaCattle

Jakes never on me PalJack-Burton

LOL hilarious...and reading it in Jack Burtons voice made it all the better. 

I dont want a touch screen or a touch pad. The touch pad doesnt even make sense to me. Whats it for? I cant even think of a single good reason to have it/use it. Im glad the PS4 controller didnt go to far from the classic iconic PS controller tho.Nengo_Flow

Try using the internet browser mouse with the analog sticks on the PS3, then try using a touchpad controlled mouse on a laptop. There is your answer why it will be a good thing for the PS4. Alot of new apps and social features will probably need better mouse pointer control. 

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Crowding the controller with gimmicks isn't going to help gaming. The "share" button is already completely useless to me personally, but I'm sure some people will actually use it. The touchpad is a welcome addition though, especially for web browsing.

MS new controller - Kinect

ImBatman-

I would reserve judgement on this till the official specs are released, though admittedly it isn't looking promising.

Even if they get Kinect 2.0 to work PERFECTLY, I still wouldn't want it. I play games to relax after a hard day of work/school, not wave my arms around like an idiot.

The touchpad is a welcome addition though, especially for web browsing.Boddicker

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]I dont want a touch screen or a touch pad. The touch pad doesnt even make sense to me. Whats it for? I cant even think of a single good reason to have it/use it. Im glad the PS4 controller didnt go to far from the classic iconic PS controller tho.theSADmafioso

Try using the internet browser mouse with the analog sticks on the PS3, then try using a touchpad controlled mouse on a laptop. There is your answer why it will be a good thing for the PS4. Alot of new apps and social features will probably need better mouse pointer control. 

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]I dont want a touch screen or a touch pad. The touch pad doesnt even make sense to me. Whats it for? I cant even think of a single good reason to have it/use it. Im glad the PS4 controller didnt go to far from the classic iconic PS controller tho.theSADmafioso

Try using the internet browser mouse with the analog sticks on the PS3, then try using a touchpad controlled mouse on a laptop. There is your answer why it will be a good thing for the PS4. Alot of new apps and social features will probably need better mouse pointer control. 

The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.MBirdy88

The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.MBirdy88

Idea isn't bad but will the games actually use it smartly?

I mean, it could make games that require precision (i.e. FPS, RTS, simulation, ect.) much more enjoyable on consoles but I kinda doubt they will use it to that extent...

I think it's just for menus not games.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.nameless12345

Idea isn't bad but will the games actually use it smartly?

I mean, it could make games that require precision (i.e. FPS, RTS, simulation, ect.) much more enjoyable on consoles but I kinda doubt they will use it to that extent...

The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.MBirdy88

Oh yes.

And I just imagine the accuracy, and precision of a laptop touchpad....... *shudders* :P

I prefer the touchpad.  It's an option that can be implemented into games/system functions but is not forcing developers' creative direction any which way.

To save money on production.

The cost to add a small, HD screen to the PS4 controler could very well double production cost with little added benefit from a screen so Small.

They would have to completely redesign the controller (a la Wii U) to take advantage of a touch screen.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.Ly_the_Fairy

Oh yes.

And I just imagine the accuracy, and precision of a laptop touchpad....... *shudders* :P

Those things are good enough for browsing and selecting. And (in my experience) the touchpads last way longer than regular buttons. regular buttons can fall off or get less clicky over time. 

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]The touch pad is actually good. Think of it as a laptop mouse.... on your controller. not a bad idea at all.Ly_the_Fairy

Oh yes.

And I just imagine the accuracy, and precision of a laptop touchpad....... *shudders* :P

Apple/Mac pads are rather great.

I thought touch-screens were gimmicks that the "core" (aka Sony's target audience on the PS4) hated?

Or am I wrong...

nameless12345

Not really. VITA has it and VITA is considered a core gamer device by Sony. 

... Because that would dramatically raise the price of a controller.. sSubZerOo

No, it wont. 

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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]I dont want a touch screen or a touch pad. The touch pad doesnt even make sense to me. Whats it for? I cant even think of a single good reason to have it/use it. Im glad the PS4 controller didnt go to far from the classic iconic PS controller tho.Nengo_Flow

Try using the internet browser mouse with the analog sticks on the PS3, then try using a touchpad controlled mouse on a laptop. There is your answer why it will be a good thing for the PS4. Alot of new apps and social features will probably need better mouse pointer control. 

Exacly, it sucks and I haven't used it myself for like three years. The point is that they probably will want you to use your PS4 for alot more things, things that like you mention the PS3 has failed to deliver. Imagine a browser that works with mouse control that is good enough on your big screen TV, combined with gestures, like zoom in and out on a smartphone. My point is that it could have intresting uses that might help the OS navigation. 

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

Crowding the controller with gimmicks isn't going to help gaming. The "share" button is already completely useless to me personally, but I'm sure some people will actually use it. The touchpad is a welcome addition though, especially for web browsing.

Boddicker

The "share" button is useless? 

. . . I see your avy and Fallout is one IP I would love to have the share button for. If I die in the world somewhere and need to retrace my steps; I can literally just push a button and see the footage of what happened. Instead of depending on my crappy, short term, photographic memory of what happened, I can just hit that "share" button and look at the film that was recording my in-game moves. Sports athletes get better at their craft by looking at film, so it makes sense to me to have my own footage to look at.

Also, that touchpad took up real estate that wasn't being used in the first place.

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MS new controller - Kinect

Boddicker

I would reserve judgement on this till the official specs are released, though admittedly it isn't looking promising.

Even if they get Kinect 2.0 to work PERFECTLY, I still wouldn't want it. I play games to relax after a hard day of work/school, not wave my arms around like an idiot.

Even if it's simple hand gestures? (i.e. pointing a finger at the kinect and slightly flicking your wrist to scroll)

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k2theswiss

Stop trolling. It doesn't suit you. =.=

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wakefulness

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k2theswiss

Stop trolling. It doesn't suit you. =.=

Oh, okay than.

Have a good day, bro. :)

Who knows? No doubt we'd get a remarkably amount of b*tching, though.

I prefer the touchpad.  It's an option that can be implemented into games/system functions but is not forcing developers' creative direction any which way.

Basinboy

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Yeah so that people would whine about Sony not being innovative.hiryu3

Coming from a sheep, the touch pad on a controller does very little and has few uses in gaming. I would had been much happier with n improved wiimote.

DS4 is probably the best gamepad to date. 

The small touchpad gives you additional inputs, but not so much that it alienates the old school way of playing games. 

I really don't see the point in a touch pad. A few developers will use it early on but then it will get dropped just like the six-axis

edit: i would have prefered a touch screen

Yeah so that people would whine about Sony not being innovative.hiryu3

Wonder how many developers are going to actually utilize the thing. Maybe you'll be able to turn pipes like you did with the Sixasis in Killzone 3? Or they'll probably make a game like Lair then drop it after that.