Why Kinect will win.. from a PS3 Fanboy.

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#1 Renzokucant
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There has been much debate over which new peripheral will be the new victor, and which will carry its console to victory.. and I honestly must say... Kinect is going to come out on top on this one.. here's my reasoning..

Kinect

* Microsoft's Kinect is a glimpse of the future of not just gaming, but technology in general.. Imagine the possibilites this type of tech can bring to the world after a few more years or even decades of refinement... (See move 'Gamer')

Reason why Kinect will win ---------> i know Kinect will win this out for the simple reason that I hate my 360, and i love my PS3... and i'm still going to buy kinect in hopes that it will be compatible with my PC!!

KINECT POSSIBILITY ON PC

PC is the big reason that kinects going to win, because people like me will buy it for a PC and try to do something with it OTHER THAN GAMING!... because honestly... it looks like it sucks for a gaming device right now (maybe not 10 years from now)...

** Playstation Move is definately going to be the winner in terms of Meeting and exceeding expectations in the video game world.. the more i read about this device the better and better it looks. (if anyone has gameinformer magazine, the latest issue had an amazing article about it)

PLAYSTATION MOVE

* The tech behind move is nothing short of amazing... It is EXACTLY what i wanted from the Wii 5 years ago, but never got.. and I Think gamers are going to realize this quickly... this is a true motion controller for people who want to really feel like they are having their motions mimicked on screen..

Move will be the better peripheral controller, with the better games... and i think its gona give everyone exactly what they have been expecting.. but like i said before, because a sony fanboy like myself will still by the Kinect device just for my PC, thats a huge indicator that there's probably millions others like me that will be doing the same thing.. and put kinect at number 1..

either way you look at it... everyones gona win here because there are 2 count um TWO amazing tech devices coming out and we all get to play with them!!!! i'm personally gona be bringin my ps3 over my friends house so we can rock out some ps360 and get some Kinect'i'movin goin!

what u guys think? who's device is comin out on top on this one?! (keep in mind i'm like 98% positive that Microsoft wasnt even thinkin of the 360 when they developed this thing, i think it was meant for a PC!)

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#2 campzor
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some valid points but no offense regarding ur FIRST point...as a GAMER i dont care what kinect can do for technology in the world.
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#3 Renzokucant
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[QUOTE="campzor"]some valid points but no offense regarding ur FIRST point...as a GAMER i dont care what kinect can do for technology in the world.

LoL true
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#4 akira2465
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IF the tech is supposed to be so impressive, why is it broken ? ie taking voice command out before launch.

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#5 Riverwolf007
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i won't be getting either until they prove that there is something that interests me.

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#6 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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they both suck
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#7 Warship_19
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No offense to Microsoft but in the first days I don't see Kinect coming out on top with no Hardcore games to go along with it

Although Im not getting Move till Socom 4 comes out.

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#8 StealthMonkey4
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Even a MS fanboy should see that Kinect is going to be terrible.

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#9 Renzokucant
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IF the tech is supposed to be so impressive, why is it broken ? ie taking voice command out before launch.

akira2465
how's that broken again?
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#10 Renzokucant
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I think kinect is going to be terrible for games, but an awesome device
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#11 Diviniuz
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Kinect will be backed by a massive marketing campaign, more than likely bigger than Halo Reach
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#12 tommyas
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Kinect just lost voice chat and voice commands at launch. Wow, thats getting a bit too much. First CPU and now this. One of the most important and advertised features is gone for now and they want 150 bucks. For what now? Limb movement tracking? Not cool MS.
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#13 kuraimen
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Kinect has no games!
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#14 kuraimen
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Kinect just lost voice chat and voice commands at launch. Wow, thats getting a bit too much. First CPU and now this. One of the most important and advertised features is gone for now and they want 150 bucks. For what now? Limb movement tracking? Not cool MS.tommyas
How are you supposed to talk to Milo now by signs? :P
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#15 markinthedark
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the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

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#16 kuraimen
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the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

markinthedark
So you're happy gaming is turning into gimmicks for casuals and party games? Because if you're happy for Kinect being a success that's what you're getting in the future :|
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[QUOTE="tommyas"]Kinect just lost voice chat and voice commands at launch. Wow, thats getting a bit too much. First CPU and now this. One of the most important and advertised features is gone for now and they want 150 bucks. For what now? Limb movement tracking? Not cool MS.kuraimen
How are you supposed to talk to Milo now by signs? :P

how bout with the voice commands MS recently confirmed will be available at launch?

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/24/kinect-voice-control-rumors-and-microsofts-official-statement/

seriously you guys that jealous of the thing you gotta make crap up?

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#18 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

kuraimen

So you're happy gaming is turning into gimmicks for casuals and party games? Because if you're happy for Kinect being a success that's what you're getting in the future :|

kinect is a piece of hardware... how developers exploit that hardware is up to them. Im not gonna blame the hardware because a handful of devs wanna cash in with some rushed to market party games at launch.

kinect is another tool in the tool belt of devs... having more tools is a good thing for devs.

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#19 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

markinthedark

So you're happy gaming is turning into gimmicks for casuals and party games? Because if you're happy for Kinect being a success that's what you're getting in the future :|

kinect is a piece of hardware... how developers exploit that hardware is up to them. Im not gonna blame the hardware because a handful of devs wanna cash in with some rushed to market party games at launch.

kinect is another tool in the tool belt of devs... having more tools is a good thing for devs.

A tool for making casual and party games. The more people that buy it on launch the more they confirm that market perspective. I have no doubt Kinect will be a success and for that I feel bad about the future of gaming. I think no real gamer should support a gimmick such as this if they are actually interested in gaming at all.
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] So you're happy gaming is turning into gimmicks for casuals and party games? Because if you're happy for Kinect being a success that's what you're getting in the future :|kuraimen

kinect is a piece of hardware... how developers exploit that hardware is up to them. Im not gonna blame the hardware because a handful of devs wanna cash in with some rushed to market party games at launch.

kinect is another tool in the tool belt of devs... having more tools is a good thing for devs.

A tool for making casual and party games. The more people that buy it on launch the more they confirm that market perspective. I have no doubt Kinect will be a success and for that I feel bad about the future of gaming. I think no real gamer should support a gimmick such as this if they are actually interested in gaming at all.

If the hardware is a huge success great, as long as people dont buy half assed software. If devs dont sell any software they will have to ask themselves why all these kinect owners arent buying their games... and they will have to adjust their strategy and release some actual games.

the nature of the beast is that everybody out there is going to want to rush some crappy game to market in order to get a piece of the pie during the initial craze. After we are out of that phase im hoping devs will start to actually plan out their next kinect offerings.

And to be perfectly honest if devs can make a ton of money off of casuals by releasing half assed games, that just gives them more money to spend on developing actual games and new IPs.

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#21 Half-Way
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some valid points but no offense regarding ur FIRST point...as a GAMER i dont care what kinect can do for technology in the world.campzor

if you call that being a gamer then... i call it being a fanboy

normal gamers would have praised the wii when it came out, not suddenly change their mind when sony came out with another rip-off.

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#22 Chutebox
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IF the tech is supposed to be so impressive, why is it broken ? ie taking voice command out before launch.

akira2465
It's not out, that was false. Kinect will be very front loaded then fall off. Move, I don't know.
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#23 Ribnarak
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IN 10 years, i doubt there will still be a "Kinect". Newer tech will come out.So thus, Kinect will lose interms of gaming to the move. Sales wise: Kinect might win because fanboys and people in general will fall for microsoft's marketing.

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The first company that comes up with a workable lightsabre will get my support.

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#25 genaroll
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Kinect will fail because I wont be able to tell skittles I love you.*cry* *cough* *cry*
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#26 tommyas
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="tommyas"]Kinect just lost voice chat and voice commands at launch. Wow, thats getting a bit too much. First CPU and now this. One of the most important and advertised features is gone for now and they want 150 bucks. For what now? Limb movement tracking? Not cool MS.markinthedark

How are you supposed to talk to Milo now by signs? :P

how bout with the voice commands MS recently confirmed will be available at launch?

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/24/kinect-voice-control-rumors-and-microsofts-official-statement/

seriously you guys that jealous of the thing you gotta make crap up?

Ouch, alright. Didnt know it wasnt official. It sounded a bit too much from the beginning. I take my post back then.
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the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

markinthedark
Actually, i've seen MS fanboys in here bash it just as much as Sony and Nintendo fanboys.
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#28 spike6566
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US could be even between the 2. Now worldwide that is a different story, move will dominate kinect
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#29 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

the fact that everyone here bashes kinect so much is proof to how successful it will be. Wii and Sony fanboys are teaming up purely out of jealousy on the thing.

lusitanogamer

Actually, i've seen MS fanboys in here bash it just as much as Sony and Nintendo fanboys.

ohhh, i dont know about "just as much"

I am able to see plenty of positive uses for all of the motion controllers. I am excited to see what devs can do for hardcore gamers. Both the 360 and PS3 are traditionally hardcore platforms, so i dont think its gonna be the same old song and dance as the wii.... which is what im guessing people are worried about.

when you have 2 rushed to market motion control devices, you are gonna have rushed to market motion control games. No devs out there had the foresight to know kinect was coming... no devs have had the luxury of working with the software (especially since it seems like MS is barely going to have the mapping software polished for launch)

kinect is a little worse off, since the move has the advantage of being similar to wiimote... meaning devs have had time to adapt to that variety of motion controls, and spend time thinking about possible applications. Kinect is a brand new beast... and is obviously going to be behind.

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#31 ReaperV7
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so kinect will because of its user interface and has the possibilty to connect to a PC more than its games and last gen technology. fair enough. ill stick with the Move.

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#32 Kingpin0114
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I was going to get Kinect but not anymore. Games look boring but I do feel it will sell way more than move because casuals think its something new. Also MS has already started to show commercials for Kinect. I haven't seen anything about Move on T.V. and it comes out in less than a month. Probably because they don't know how to market move without it looking like a wii rip-off.

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#34 Renzokucant
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i want both but i want move more, there's more you can do with it as a gamer..
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#35 WiiMan21
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The possibilities are endless, though MS is going about it the wrong way.

If they wanted to, they could have added all these cool features, and a higher resolution camera (instead of this low quality camera which is just about on par with the average web cam).

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#36 markinthedark
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The possibilities are endless, though MS is going about it the wrong way.

If they wanted to, they could have added all these cool features, and a higher resolution camera (instead of this low quality camera which is just about on par with the average web cam).

WiiMan21

yea i really wish they had higher res cameras... but with people already complaining about the cost... i can see why they didnt.

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US could be even between the 2. Now worldwide that is a different story, move will dominate kinectspike6566
Kinect is already more of a success than move it has more pre orders
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#38 nervmeister
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There's a much simpler reason why Kinect will win: MS will advertise it way more than Sony will it's Move.

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#39 moose_knuckler
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Sales-wise, Kinect looks like it'll win that.
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#40 shroofnayef
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Ps Eye can do everything Kinect does, with better specs as well

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#41 markinthedark
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Ps Eye can do everything Kinect does, with better specs as well

shroofnayef

no, it really cant.

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#42 Phazevariance
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IF the tech is supposed to be so impressive, why is it broken ? ie taking voice command out before launch.

akira2465
Also, why does the PS Move have such a hig lag delay? Better than the Wii, perhaps, but with huge lag, does it really matter?
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#43 shroofnayef
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

Ps Eye can do everything Kinect does, with better specs as well

no, it really cant.

Yes, it really can... http://www.myce.com/news/can-the-playstation-eye-already-do-what-xbox-kinect-does-33111/
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they both suckJandurin
thank you
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#45 Maledizione
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Im coming to you guys as a humble man. I must ask you not to buy either of these, even if you really want to. We can't let the big buisnesses think this is the kind of thing we want.

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#46 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

Ps Eye can do everything Kinect does, with better specs as well

shroofnayef

no, it really cant.

Yes, it really can... http://www.myce.com/news/can-the-playstation-eye-already-do-what-xbox-kinect-does-33111/

kinect can do 3d body tracking, pseye can do 2d body tracking.

i cant tell if you are being serious or just trolling.

a bowling game would be impossible with the pseye, its possible with kinect.

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#47 Vader993
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at first the kinect will sell good,then fall due lack of games.move do decent due to good games

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#48 Jfisch93
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Nintendo wins, it's the only company not copying something. Sony is copying Nintendo, Microsoft is copying Sony.

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#49 fuzzynono
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I like the Kinect because I think it is going to help advance technology within the video game world as a whole. However, the Kinect games that have been announced so far don't interest me all that much. It just seems that the announced games are more for kids rather than hardcore gamers. I think it's going to take at least a year or two before games will be released that actually interest a good portion of the gaming community. I'm still probably going to buy Kinect though just because of the sheer uniqueness of it.

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#50 MasterBolt360
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In sales? Kinect with an easy win.

In who has more defending gamers? Move.

Seriously, Move looks like Wii 2.0.

It's the same damn controller, colored black, with spheres at the end. Seriously?

"It may look like the Wii, but its so much better than the Wii!1!!"

Copying something then polishing it up just makes you look like an ass. Ever seen Twister?