Why monster hunter is on the 3ds

This is purely off speculation, but in my opinion this makes sense.

Because Nintendo payed capcom to make MH for their console? Mabye

Because nintendo devices are superior compared to other devices and is fit for a hardcore game? Not really

Because capcom is a lazyass cheap company? Most likely

The first two monster hunter were released on the ps2, and when the ps3 came out, everybody thought that it's sequel would come out to the ps3. WRONG. Capcom swithced to portable devices such as the psp because the graphics for the psp were most reminicent to ps2. Meaning they didnt want to swithc the engine and the graphics for the next gen consoles. Making a psp game was much cheaper in comparison to making a beutiful ps3 game. So, after few psp games, it was time for capcom to make a console game once again. Capcom originally said they were developing MH tri for the ps3 and then during developement swtiched to the wii. So what was capcom's excuse? "We found out that wii had sold more than the ps3 and is the dominant platform in japan" At that time ps3 had sold around 5mil and wii 8mil. But ofcourse most of this so called wii owners were casual gamers not interested in hardcore games such as monster hunter. Capcom probably knew that but used that statement as a lousy excuse to save money. When the game released it sold one mil copies in japan. Not a bad result, but terrible for a monster hunter game. Thankfully for capcom, their game, MHP3rd(psp) sold a wooping 4.5mil copies in japan a year later after tri released. When NGP was announced shortly after the launch of MHP3rd, everybody was expecting a ps3 graphics monster hunter for the ps vita. But yet again capcom switch ships in order to save money. 3ds, a game systen with 3.5 inch screen(in comparison to 5inch of ps vita) only one analouge stick and a crappy online system, a terrible match for a monster hunter game(not saying 3ds sucks, its just not a good match with genres such as MH). But lets see, 3ds graphics are most reminicent to the wii and the wii had mhtri. So yet again, to reuse the same engine and to save money capcom chose the inferior hardware. Developing monster hunter for the ps vita would probably end up to be a better game(better graphics)(better controls)(better online). Just a day after capcom announced mh3g they spit on the hardcore MH fans by announcing mh4 on the 3ds. THis might be shocking but the announcement of monster hunter for the 3ds means that monster hunter will literally have roughly the same engine for nearly a decade.

It's called business, man.

Like why COD has had the same engine for like 5+ years.

Why bother update the engine and spend millions in unnecessary costs when you could make the same amount of money putting it on handhelds?

This is purely off speculation, but in my opinion this makes sense.

Because Nintendo payed capcom to make MH for their console? Mabye

Because nintendo devices are superior compared to other devices and is fit for a hardcore game? Not really

Because capcom is a lazyass cheap company? Most likely

The first two monster hunter were released on the ps2, and when the ps3 came out, everybody thought that it's sequel would come out to the ps3. WRONG. Capcom swithced to portable devices such as the psp because the graphics for the psp were most reminicent to ps2. Meaning they didnt want to swithc the engine and the graphics for the next gen consoles. Making a psp game was much cheaper in comparison to making a beutiful ps3 game. So, after few psp games, it was time for capcom to make a console game once again. Capcom originally said they were developing the MH tri for the ps3 and then during developement swtiched to the wii. So what was capcom's excuse? "We found out that wii had sold more than the ps3 and is the dominant platform in japan" At that time ps3 had sold around 5mil and wii 8mil. But ofcourse most of this so called wii owners were casual gamers not interested in hardcore games such as monster hunter. Capcom probably knew that but used that statement as a lousy excuse to save money. When the game released it sold one mil copies in japan. Not a bad result, but terrible for a monster hunter game. Thankfully for capcom, their game, MHP3rd(psp) sold a wooping 4.5mil copies in japan a year later after tri released. When NGP was announced shortly after the launch of MHP3rd, everybody was expecting a ps3 graphics monster hunter for the ps vita. But yet again capcom switch ships in order to save money. 3ds, a game systen with 3.5 inch screen(in comparison to 5inch of ps vita) only one analouge stick and a crappy online system, a terrible match for a monster hunter game(not saying 3ds sucks, its just not a good match with genres such as MH). But lets see, 3ds graphics are most reminicent to the wii and the wii had mhtri. So yet again, to reuse the same engine and to save money capcom chose the inferior hardware. Developing monster hunter for the ps vita would probably end up to be a better game(better graphics)(better controls)(better online). Just a day after capcom announced mh3g they spit on the hardcore MH fans by announcing mh4 on the 3ds. THis might be shocking but the announcement of monster hunter for the 3ds means that monster hunter will literally have roughly the same engine for nearly a decade.

waoasis

Monster Hunter on the Nintendo consoles is most likely because, a) the PS3 was stuggling very badly which was not expected when they sort of announced MH3 for it, b) monster hunter in full HD glory on a console wouldn't make back its money most likely or be far less profitable than a generational less version for the Wii, c) Nintendo offered Capcom money to market it and help make it bigger in the west and d) Capcom saw this as an oppurtunity to save money and grow their franchise. Frankly I don't see what they have done thus far as a bad decision.

Keep in mind that every system this gen bar the DS has had Monster hunter on it in some form, 360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC and now the 3DS. If you think there will be no Monster Hunter Vita I think you don't know Capcom at all. As someone who got into Monster Hunter with Tri and will eventually get a 3DS I don't mind the move. I think the inevitable MHV will be awesome though.

Also for context, Monster Hunter wasn't a mega series until after MH3 was announced for the Wii. MH3 was the best selling console MH by a significant degree and also the best selling game in the series outside of Japan by a large degree as well. MHP3rd did amazing as expected since handhelds are what brought MH to fame.

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This is purely off speculation, but in my opinion this makes sense.

Because Nintendo payed capcom to make MH for their console? Mabye

Because nintendo devices are superior compared to other devices and is fit for a hardcore game? Not really

Because capcom is a lazyass cheap company? Most likely

The first two monster hunter were released on the ps2, and when the ps3 came out, everybody thought that it's sequel would come out to the ps3. WRONG. Capcom swithced to portable devices such as the psp because the graphics for the psp were most reminicent to ps2. Meaning they didnt want to swithc the engine and the graphics for the next gen consoles. Making a psp game was much cheaper in comparison to making a beutiful ps3 game. So, after few psp games, it was time for capcom to make a console game once again. Capcom originally said they were developing the MH tri for the ps3 and then during developement swtiched to the wii. So what was capcom's excuse? "We found out that wii had sold more than the ps3 and is the dominant platform in japan" At that time ps3 had sold around 5mil and wii 8mil. But ofcourse most of this so called wii owners were casual gamers not interested in hardcore games such as monster hunter. Capcom probably knew that but used that statement as a lousy excuse to save money. When the game released it sold one mil copies in japan. Not a bad result, but terrible for a monster hunter game. Thankfully for capcom, their game, MHP3rd(psp) sold a wooping 4.5mil copies in japan a year later after tri released. When NGP was announced shortly after the launch of MHP3rd, everybody was expecting a ps3 graphics monster hunter for the ps vita. But yet again capcom switch ships in order to save money. 3ds, a game systen with 3.5 inch screen(in comparison to 5inch of ps vita) only one analouge stick and a crappy online system, a terrible match for a monster hunter game(not saying 3ds sucks, its just not a good match with genres such as MH). But lets see, 3ds graphics are most reminicent to the wii and the wii had mhtri. So yet again, to reuse the same engine and to save money capcom chose the inferior hardware. Developing monster hunter for the ps vita would probably end up to be a better game(better graphics)(better controls)(better online). Just a day after capcom announced mh3g they spit on the hardcore MH fans by announcing mh4 on the 3ds. THis might be shocking but the announcement of monster hunter for the 3ds means that monster hunter will literally have roughly the same engine for nearly a decade.

ActicEdge

Keep in mind that every system this gen bar the DS has had Monster hunter on it in some form, 360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC and now the 3DS. If you think there will be no Monster Hunter Vita I think you don't know Capcom at all. As someone who got into Monster Hunter with Tri and will eventually get a 3DS I don't mind the move. I think the inevitable MHV will be awesome though.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="waoasis"]

This is purely off speculation, but in my opinion this makes sense.

Because Nintendo payed capcom to make MH for their console? Mabye

Because nintendo devices are superior compared to other devices and is fit for a hardcore game? Not really

Because capcom is a lazyass cheap company? Most likely

The first two monster hunter were released on the ps2, and when the ps3 came out, everybody thought that it's sequel would come out to the ps3. WRONG. Capcom swithced to portable devices such as the psp because the graphics for the psp were most reminicent to ps2. Meaning they didnt want to swithc the engine and the graphics for the next gen consoles. Making a psp game was much cheaper in comparison to making a beutiful ps3 game. So, after few psp games, it was time for capcom to make a console game once again. Capcom originally said they were developing the MH tri for the ps3 and then during developement swtiched to the wii. So what was capcom's excuse? "We found out that wii had sold more than the ps3 and is the dominant platform in japan" At that time ps3 had sold around 5mil and wii 8mil. But ofcourse most of this so called wii owners were casual gamers not interested in hardcore games such as monster hunter. Capcom probably knew that but used that statement as a lousy excuse to save money. When the game released it sold one mil copies in japan. Not a bad result, but terrible for a monster hunter game. Thankfully for capcom, their game, MHP3rd(psp) sold a wooping 4.5mil copies in japan a year later after tri released. When NGP was announced shortly after the launch of MHP3rd, everybody was expecting a ps3 graphics monster hunter for the ps vita. But yet again capcom switch ships in order to save money. 3ds, a game systen with 3.5 inch screen(in comparison to 5inch of ps vita) only one analouge stick and a crappy online system, a terrible match for a monster hunter game(not saying 3ds sucks, its just not a good match with genres such as MH). But lets see, 3ds graphics are most reminicent to the wii and the wii had mhtri. So yet again, to reuse the same engine and to save money capcom chose the inferior hardware. Developing monster hunter for the ps vita would probably end up to be a better game(better graphics)(better controls)(better online). Just a day after capcom announced mh3g they spit on the hardcore MH fans by announcing mh4 on the 3ds. THis might be shocking but the announcement of monster hunter for the 3ds means that monster hunter will literally have roughly the same engine for nearly a decade.

waoasis

Keep in mind that every system this gen bar the DS has had Monster hunter on it in some form, 360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC and now the 3DS. If you think there will be no Monster Hunter Vita I think you don't know Capcom at all. As someone who got into Monster Hunter with Tri and will eventually get a 3DS I don't mind the move. I think the inevitable MHV will be awesome though.

Oh I know, I said MH in some form though, not "new" MH game. Also MH Frontier still gets updates to this day and the 360 version does as well. I also said the DS never had monster hunter in the first sentence :P

Anyway, even if MHV only has slightly improved 3DS graphics it'll still be a great game. It'll have solid Dual analog control and it'll have solid online. I don't see the big deal here. Are you a fan of MH or a fan of graphics?

Translation for the tl;dr crowd: If you don't develop all your franchises for Sony platforms, you might as well go eat poo, because you clearly enjoy consuming human feces.

graphics dont just prettify the game, it improves the frame rate, complex movement(more challenging monsters), shorter loading times, bigger maps, and less bluriness which enables you to clearly see monsters far away. And there are already rumors that MH3tri would not come to the west(its already confirmed that MHp3rd will not come), and importing it wont work since 3ds is region locked. In the other hand ps vita is region lock free. Also MH tri will only support ad hoc. Now online acess is very important for me since pretty much no one around me plays MH. 3ds online capabilities havnt improved from its older brother. They still use friend codes. In the other hand vita version would probably have online because sony announced plethora things vita improved over the psp. And yes MH for the wii was my favorite game because of infestructure. Still i believe it would have been better if it came out for the ps3 or the xbox because it has voice chat, friend lists, trophies, and all of my friends are there. No body buys wii for its online capability so i was essentially just playing with stranger.s

Because Capcom noticed the amazing 3DS sales and they know Japan will eat it up like Oreos with milk. :) smart business move imo. :pbbkkristian

graphics dont just prettify the game, it improves the frame rate, complex movement(more challenging monsters), shorter loading times, bigger maps, and less bluriness which enables you to clearly see monsters far away. And there are already rumors that MH3tri would not come to the west(its already confirmed that MHp3rd will not come), and importing it wont work since 3ds is region locked. In the other hand ps vita is region lock free. Also MH tri will only support ad hoc. Now online acess is very important for me since pretty much no one around me plays MH. 3ds online capabilities havnt improved from its older brother. They still use friend codes. In the other hand vita version would probably have online because sony announced plethora things vita improved over the psp. And yes MH for the wii was my favorite game because of infestructure. Still i believe it would have been better if it came out for the ps3 or the xbox because it has voice chat, friend lists, trophies, and all of my friends are there. No body buys wii for its online capability so i was essentially just playing with stranger.s

waoasis

Graphics don't improve frame rate, loading and map size :|

If you are arguing better hardware has the potential to make the game better then yeah it does though I don't necessarily feel like better hardware is vital to making Monster Hunter in its current state much better. Things like loading times and map size has to do more with the vision of the developers and how well they optamize their game. Being on the PS3 or PSV will not magically make the maps bigger (not sure why anyone needs even bigger maps in Monster Hunter considering what it is) and better loading times (which I feel capcom could improve if they wanted to and especially since playing tri off an HDD imporves the load times significantly using the same hardware).

As far as TriG coming no one really knows whether its coming or not. I would say yes simply because its a new system with new potential to craft a fanbase but that's just me. MHP3rd isn't coming because it won't sell well on the PSP which is dead in the West. Tri G only supporting ad hoc is unfortunate, not that I feel that Capcom couldn't have included it if they wanted it in there though, lots of DS games support online that works fine. The 3DS shouldn't have this problem.

Frankly I think Capcom is just holding out on HD Monster Hunter because the expectations are a lot higher than they can realistically achieve without basically starting a new MH core. They could make a prettier game with better online and better annimation then tri but it'll still just be monster hunter. And once they do the big HD monster hunter game where else can they go? The next better graphics HD monster hunter game? They are just being smart frankly.

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there are no plans to release monster hunter to the west. for some reason icant paste sites.

so much for nintendo trying to commercialize monster hunter to the west. Of course this doent mean it wont come to the west, but I'd say the chances are pretty slim though

It's called business, man.

Like why COD has had the same engine for like 5+ years.

Why bother update the engine and spend millions in unnecessary costs when you could make the same amount of money putting it on handhelds?

peterw007

Even if monster hunter were to go to th vita, there's no guarantee that it would have online. Japan loves their local wireless play, and almost everyone seems to be carrying around handhelds over there.

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there are no plans to release monster hunter to the west. for some reason icant paste sites.

so much for nintendo trying to commercialize monster hunter to the west. Of course this doent mean it wont come to the west, but I'd say the chances are pretty slim though

waoasis

Paste the site. Find a way otherwise I can't trust that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

this link from Sept 18 gives hope at the very least.

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there are no plans to release monster hunter to the west. for some reason icant paste sites.

so much for nintendo trying to commercialize monster hunter to the west. Of course this doent mean it wont come to the west, but I'd say the chances are pretty slim though

ActicEdge

Paste the site. Find a way otherwise I can't trust that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

this link from Sept 18 gives hope at the very least.

Even if monster hunter were to go to th vita, there's no guarantee that it would have online. Japan loves their local wireless play, and almost everyone seems to be carrying around handhelds over there.

Shinobishyguy

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[QUOTE="waoasis"]

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there are no plans to release monster hunter to the west. for some reason icant paste sites.

so much for nintendo trying to commercialize monster hunter to the west. Of course this doent mean it wont come to the west, but I'd say the chances are pretty slim though

Shinobishyguy

Paste the site. Find a way otherwise I can't trust that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

this link from Sept 18 gives hope at the very least.

I personally think its going to be translated on the basis that its an expansion to the most popular Monster Hunter game in the West and the wireless makes setting up personal games with friends much easier. I feel that not localizing it wouldn't be a good idea. Now my real problem is why there is no Wii version. the ability to switch between the game on the Wii and 3DS on the fly would be amazing.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="waoasis"]

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there are no plans to release monster hunter to the west. for some reason icant paste sites.

so much for nintendo trying to commercialize monster hunter to the west. Of course this doent mean it wont come to the west, but I'd say the chances are pretty slim though

Shinobishyguy

Paste the site. Find a way otherwise I can't trust that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

this link from Sept 18 gives hope at the very least.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

Even if monster hunter were to go to th vita, there's no guarantee that it would have online. Japan loves their local wireless play, and almost everyone seems to be carrying around handhelds over there.

waoasis

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Paste the site. Find a way otherwise I can't trust that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

this link from Sept 18 gives hope at the very least.

ActicEdge

I personally think its going to be translated on the basis that its an expansion to the most popular Monster Hunter game in the West and the wireless makes setting up personal games with friends much easier. I feel that not localizing it wouldn't be a good idea. Now my real problem is why there is no Wii version. the ability to switch between the game on the Wii and 3DS on the fly would be amazing.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] Plus they already have translated names for some of the monsters. If anything it has a way better chance to be localized that Portable 3rd. I think nintendo realizes full well that the 3ds's library is in desperate need of games.waoasis

I personally think its going to be translated on the basis that its an expansion to the most popular Monster Hunter game in the West and the wireless makes setting up personal games with friends much easier. I feel that not localizing it wouldn't be a good idea. Now my real problem is why there is no Wii version. the ability to switch between the game on the Wii and 3DS on the fly would be amazing.

I don't think that's something you can patent. Many devices allow for communication similar to that. I don't think you can patent a save file tbh.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

Even if monster hunter were to go to th vita, there's no guarantee that it would have online. Japan loves their local wireless play, and almost everyone seems to be carrying around handhelds over there.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Because Capcom noticed the amazing 3DS sales and they know Japan will eat it up like Oreos with milk. :) smart business move imo. :pwaoasis

Sounds to me like TC is mad :P

Because MH is not an exclusive franchise.