why most everyone sais xbox 360 is so much better than ps3

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

360 was out for like double the time of ps3 and the multiplats are better on 360 more often then not because devs are lazy and decide they are going to port it instead of working on it...Dont you know anything? :?

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

mccoyca112

there simple enough for you?

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

GT-JPWhoopass

there simple enough for you?

no, it still doesnt make sense. You should read what I typed below for a reason why. put 2 and 2 together...360 is a better for system for now because of live and a few features it has; it also had lots of time to have its hardware figured out. Not because it has more games out than ps3...

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

360 was out for like double the time of ps3 and the multiplats are better on 360 more often then not because devs are lazy and decide they are going to port it instead of working on it...Dont you know anything? :?

mccoyca112

omg did you just said the ps3 is better because the 360 has been around ofr longer?

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

360 was out for like double the time of ps3 and the multiplats are better on 360 more often then not because devs are lazy and decide they are going to port it instead of working on it...Dont you know anything? :?

Kirlok

omg did you just said the ps3 is better because the 360 has been around ofr longer?

No? Does anyone use common sense though...I mean really? Can anyone understand what I am talking about?

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

mccoyca112

there simple enough for you?

no, it still doesnt make sense. You should read what I typed below for a reason why. put 2 and 2 together...360 is a better for system for now because of live and a few features it has; it also had lots of time to have its hardware figured out. Not because it has more games out than ps3...

sorry gg

[QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

360 was out for like double the time of ps3 and the multiplats are better on 360 more often then not because devs are lazy and decide they are going to port it instead of working on it...Dont you know anything? :?

mccoyca112

omg did you just said the ps3 is better because the 360 has been around ofr longer?

No? Does anyone use common sense though...I mean really? Can anyone understand what I am talking about?

i think its pretty obvious, no

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"][QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

GT-JPWhoopass

there simple enough for you?

no, it still doesnt make sense. You should read what I typed below for a reason why. put 2 and 2 together...360 is a better for system for now because of live and a few features it has; it also had lots of time to have its hardware figured out. Not because it has more games out than ps3...

sorry gg

sorry but you liking the 360 and hating the ps3 doesnt makes it a general rule, you simply asume to be teh fact master

PS2 is better than xbox 360 because it has more games, and better ones

But thats not really fair because PS2 has been out longer (Thats what Mccoyca is saying)

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

EmperorSupreme

and you know those games are better on the ps3 because?

PS2 is better than xbox 360 because it has more games, and better ones

But thats not really fair because PS2 has been out longer (Thats what Mccoyca is saying)

f50p90

either its better or it isnt

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

EmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="f50p90"]

PS2 is better than xbox 360 because it has more games, and better ones

But thats not really fair because PS2 has been out longer (Thats what Mccoyca is saying)

GT-JPWhoopass

either its better or it isnt

is this really the best damage control you can come up with?

yea lets 'not count' 360's first year of games because it isnt fair to ps3.... good god this forum is retarded

GT-JPWhoopass

Read what you just typed and think about it :|

The exact same thing happened with ps2 times...

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]is this really the best damage control you can come up with?

yea lets 'not count' 360's first year of games because it isnt fair to ps3.... good god this forum is retarded

mccoyca112

Read what you just typed and think about it :|

The exact same thing happened with ps2 times...

weird

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"][QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]is this really the best damage control you can come up with?

yea lets 'not count' 360's first year of games because it isnt fair to ps3.... good god this forum is retarded

GT-JPWhoopass

Read what you just typed and think about it :|

The exact same thing happened with ps2 times...

weird

Nothing gets past you, does it? Again, read what you typed and think about it :|

You are basically explaining my exact reasons to why the 360 is and always will have more better games.

What happens when MS decides to hatchet X360 like they did Xbox? Let's see who has more games and more support at the end of this generation. I guarantee it will be Sony and PS3 they have proven they will support their systems and not just the uber successful ones. PSP is proof of that and a big reason I switched from Xbox to PS3 this gen.EmperorSupreme

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

EmperorSupreme

What if I, like most people, don't have a PC that can play those games?

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"][QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]is this really the best damage control you can come up with?

yea lets 'not count' 360's first year of games because it isnt fair to ps3.... good god this forum is retarded

mccoyca112

Read what you just typed and think about it :|

The exact same thing happened with ps2 times...

weird

Nothing gets past you, does it? Again, read what you typed and think about it :|

You are basically explaining my exact reasons to why the 360 is and always will have more better games.

who gives a crap WHY it has more good games... like explaining it somehow makes them less valid? youve really stumbled on something here bud, you should go tell everyone.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]What happens when MS decides to hatchet X360 like they did Xbox? Let's see who has more games and more support at the end of this generation. I guarantee it will be Sony and PS3 they have proven they will support their systems and not just the uber successful ones. PSP is proof of that and a big reason I switched from Xbox to PS3 this gen.too_much_eslim

They only made a small profit one quarter with X360 and that was when Halo released. Last I heard they were still losing gobs of money, infact they lost over a billion last year just for the RROD.

What if I, like most people, don't have a PC that can play those games?

swamprat_basic

Those games don't require a high-end gaming system. I built my system 2 years ago for $800 and it still plays all those games very well. I have a dual core Athlon 3800+, 256mb Radeon, and 2gb of ram. We aren't talking Crysis or Supreme Commander here :)

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]What happens when MS decides to hatchet X360 like they did Xbox? Let's see who has more games and more support at the end of this generation. I guarantee it will be Sony and PS3 they have proven they will support their systems and not just the uber successful ones. PSP is proof of that and a big reason I switched from Xbox to PS3 this gen.EmperorSupreme

They only made a small profit one quarter with X360 and that was when Halo released. Last I heard they were still losing gobs of money, infact they lost over a billion last year just for the RROD.

What if I, like most people, don't have a PC that can play those games?

swamprat_basic

Those games don't require a high-end gaming system. I built my system 2 years ago for $800 and it still plays all those games very well. I have a dual core Athlon 3800+, 256mb Radeon, and 2gb of ram. We aren't talking Crysis or Supreme Commander here :)

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]What happens when MS decides to hatchet X360 like they did Xbox? Let's see who has more games and more support at the end of this generation. I guarantee it will be Sony and PS3 they have proven they will support their systems and not just the uber successful ones. PSP is proof of that and a big reason I switched from Xbox to PS3 this gen.too_much_eslim

They only made a small profit one quarter with X360 and that was when Halo released. Last I heard they were still losing gobs of money, infact they lost over a billion last year just for the RROD.

] To bad you heard whatever you wanted to hear. They have been profiting ever since. They took out A billion dollars before Halo 3 was released. If you want the link you look it up. I already know the truth. You can choose be ignorant to it or not.

I think your wrong and even if you aren't they are making very very little. Not enough that MS will continue support for X360 when it's really not how there business operates. There business is built on pushing people to upgrade, it's silly to even think X360 would be any different.

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]

who gives a crap WHY it has more good games... like explaining it somehow makes them less valid? youve really stumbled on something here bud, you should go tell everyone.

mccoyca112

...You are really making a fool of yourself :\

You are saying it has better games and Im just saying WHY it does. This argument is just as pointless and obvious as the ones back in the days of ps2 were. Im just saying, why make a thread on the obvious? Everyone knows it has better games but there is a reason...sheesh, if you would stop being a lapdog of ms and just notice the obvious, then you wouldnt have to waste your time making this thread.

I just thought I'd say it again. Everyone knows it has MORE better games but there is a reason for it just like the ps2 days.

They have better games because the devs for the 360 successively and luckily (for the lack of better terms) developed a game that the mass population would find enjoyable. Easy answer, the devs were able to create games that people like more.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

I think your wrong and even if you aren't they are making very very little. Not enough that MS will continue support for X360 when it's really not how there business operates. There business is built on pushing people to upgrade, it's silly to even think X360 would be any different.

too_much_eslim

So you are saying I'm wrong.. How much are these huge X360 profits you are referring to?

Also please name a product from Microsoft that has had a long life cycle and continued support?

I'm pretty sure I understand MS and their business strategies more than you think since I've been working with them on a daily basis for almost 10 years in my line of work, but I'm always willing to learn.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

swamprat_basic

What if I, like most people, don't have a PC that can play those games?

As usual, the anti-360 argument boils down to idea that everyone in the world has a PC able to play games like Gears and Bioshock at the same level the 360 does. Please try to understand, that's not even close to true. Millions of people have perfectly functioning PCs that can't even come close to running Bioshock at medium to high settings, so for them, the 360 holds the superior version of each game.

Also, let's keep in mind the fact that Gears came to the PC a full 6 months after its 360 counterpart, so yes, a couple extra chapters would be expected; I waited for Oblivion GotY Edition for the 360, and was rewarded by essentially getting the extra content for free. Patience will be rewarded. However, I bought Mass Effect when it came out. Why? Because I didn't want to wait 6 months for the game (especially considering the few improvements that will be coming with the PC version). I bought Halo 3 for the 360, because God knows when that game will come to the PC (and God only knows how good the port will be).

But this whole argument is moot, because there are still plenty of games which neither the PC nor PS3 have, which are on the 360 (Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising, Crackdown, Forza, etc.). Are there arguments for gaming on a PC over a 360? Sure. Are their arguments for the PS3? Of course. But the idea that the 360 is essentially the place where PC games go to be "downgraded" is not only wishful thinking, but also a symptom of hermits thinking all of gaming revolves around their PCs (or cows needing a second system to dump on the 360 with).

360 is a better for system for now because of live and a few features it has; it also had lots of time to have its hardware figured out. Not because it has more games out than ps3...

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"][QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Your argument...doesnt make sense.

Kirlok

there simple enough for you?

no, it still doesnt make sense. You should read what I typed below for a reason why. put 2 and 2 together...360 is a better for system for now because of live and a few features it has; it also had lots of time to have its hardware figured out. Not because it has more games out than ps3...

sorry gg

sorry but you liking the 360 and hating the ps3 doesnt makes it a general rule, you simply asume to be teh fact master

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

I think your wrong and even if you aren't they are making very very little. Not enough that MS will continue support for X360 when it's really not how there business operates. There business is built on pushing people to upgrade, it's silly to even think X360 would be any different.

EmperorSupreme

So you are saying I'm wrong.. How much are these huge X360 profits you are referring to?

Also please name a product from Microsoft that has had a long life cycle and continued support?

I'm pretty sure I understand MS and their business strategies more than you think since I've been working with them on a daily basis for almost 10 years in my line of work, but I'm always willing to learn.

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]is this really the best damage control you can come up with?

yea lets 'not count' 360's first year of games because it isnt fair to ps3.... good god this forum is ********

mccoyca112

Read what you just typed and think about it :|

The exact same thing happened with ps2 times...

you're not allowed to qoute stuff like that either so you should probably edit your post.

No one in this thread did anything but make claims - I read through it but saw not one iota of evidence.

Some people like the PS3 - others prefer the 360 and that is how it will probably be for a long while to come.

But you really should not expect to change each others minds OR pretend you have proven anything unless any of you can find some

real evidence to back your claims .... other than "everybody knows" or "it is obvious"

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

EmperorSupreme

Great post, really nasty ownage.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

tenaka2

Great post, really nasty ownage.

Not really :?

See what he says at the bottom? Saying that the 360's games from 2006 shouldn't be counted.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

Juggernaut140

Great post, really nasty ownage.

Not really :?

See what he says at the bottom? Saying that the 360's games from 2006 shouldn't be counted.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

Juggernaut140

Great post, really nasty ownage.

Not really :?

See what he says at the bottom? Saying that the 360's games from 2006 shouldn't be counted.

neither one of you have given any EVIDENCE to back your claims and have no chance to convince the other.

360 or PS3 or maybe just a PC because there are a lot of PC gamers left out there8)

Good luck to both but I think you are probably better off sticking with your own systems.

I think they are both good.

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Let's take a closer look at the top 10 for X360:

1) Orange Box - Better on PC (does not require high end system) and available on PS3

2) Bioshock - Better on PC (does not require high end system)

3) Call of Duty 4- Just as good on PC or PS3, maybe better depending on what you read

4) Oblivion - Better on PC, Better on PS3

5) Gears of War - Better on PC, better graphics and longer single player game

6) Halo 3- X360 exclusive currently eventually coming to PC

7) RockBand - Equal on PS3

8 ) Guitar Hero II - People play GHIII now

9) Mass Effect - Available soon on PC and going to be much much better

10) GRAW - People play GRAW2 now

This summarizes the X360 library, either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

SeanBond

What if I, like most people, don't have a PC that can play those games?

As usual, the anti-360 argument boils down to idea that everyone in the world has a PC able to play games like Gears and Bioshock at the same level the 360 does. Please try to understand, that's not even close to true. Millions of people have perfectly functioning PCs that can't even come close to running Bioshock at medium to high settings, so for them, the 360 holds the superior version of each game.

Also, let's keep in mind the fact that Gears came to the PC a full 6 months after its 360 counterpart, so yes, a couple extra chapters would be expected; I waited for Oblivion GotY Edition for the 360, and was rewarded by essentially getting the extra content for free. Patience will be rewarded. However, I bought Mass Effect when it came out. Why? Because I didn't want to wait 6 months for the game (especially considering the few improvements that will be coming with the PC version). I bought Halo 3 for the 360, because God knows when that game will come to the PC (and God only knows how good the port will be).

But this whole argument is moot, because there are still plenty of games which neither the PC nor PS3 have, which are on the 360 (Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising, Crackdown, Forza, etc.). Are there arguments for gaming on a PC over a 360? Sure. Are their arguments for the PS3? Of course. But the idea that the 360 is essentially the place where PC games go to be "downgraded" is not only wishful thinking, but also a symptom of hermits thinking all of gaming revolves around their PCs (or cows needing a second system to dump on the 360 with).

So true, I bought a 360 so I wouldn't have to upgrade my PC.

It's not a slow or cheap PC at all either, it has an AMD X2 3800, 2gb RAM, 1000GB HD, SoundBlaster Platium Sound Card, 24" LCD with duel monitors but only a 6600GT graphics card. It's only 2 years old. Same age as my 360 but it can't play new games but my 360 can. I can't justify upgrading my PC when I have a 360 which plays everything properly out of the box. The only game which I could ever consider upgrading it for would be Starcraft 2.

either it's available on another system, or it's a 2006 title that nobody plays anymore.

EmperorSupreme

the only 360 game i wish was on ps3 is bioshock, the other exclusives dont matter to me.jcwkings

Exactly. People use these review scores like a good score means a game is a system seller.

Herte's a clue. There are good titles a gamer could miss without having all of the consoles. I sure wouldn't go buy a 360 because of PDZ or Graw. Nor would most other people at this point. Most still deciding on what to buy look at the current titles. Not 360 launch titles from two years ago that have either become dated or have had a sequal that was better.

What criteria did you use for gamerankings (number of reviews) ? Those numbers appear to include arcade games for the 360 and none for the PSN as well (which apparently don't get reviewed much at all). That would skew the numbers.

As for your point , we have an entire generation to go yet and the ps3 is just getting started ...... final tallies could look a whole lot different , but I am sure nobody will care then ;)