Why MS isnt quite trying with their 09 lineup

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Multiplats (including 360/PC titles), Fallout 3 DLC x3, GTA DLC x 2, Race Pro, Star Ocean, Stoked, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, Scene It 3, Lips 2, Halo 3: ODST...........after that call it a year. MS may announce more 09 games but this seems to be the most of what we are gonna expect. I suspect them shifting resources into next Xbox launch titles or saving them for 2010. Why? Because they won and they know it. Why try your best when you won the marketshare of the hardcore? Wii holds the casuals and MS has a majority stake on the core. They are gonna kick but in marketshare this year so why release your cards when you can just release ODST to solidify your stance? MS knows their gonna dominate the PS3 in sales in 09 (as a business thats all they care about). 2010 is when PS3 might be a bigger threat with the inevitable price drop effects. So thats why PS3 is releasing a lot of its cards this year.......they are desperate to get back the marketshare of the hardcore. MS isnt worried. They know that by just releasing ODST that theyll smoke the PS3 sales wise.
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They tell you that @ the board meeting?

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#3 lawlessx
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nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

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All this rests on one flaw though, as a business you try and improve year upon year, which Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing. Releasing more now, will bring in more revenue for 2008, to be invested again in a cycle. You don't just stop and take a year off because you are "winning". It isnt what businesses do

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#5 Squall18
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MS has had an amzazing start so far. PS3 has had an amazing start game wise, not sale wise.

I honestly think the 360 is going to have a HUGE year this year with the economy the way it is. I think some unanounced games will make it exciting

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Mmm, Stoked. As a snowboarder and a fan of gaming, having that boarder that finally matches the awesome realism (and beats it) of Amped is a dream come true. I know it's a niche game, but it exceeded the nonexistent hype here and delivered the same score as R&C: ToD and just a bit under Uncharted, which are both bigger budget titles. The Skate-like control system and the dynamic weather system are a complete joy. Stoked will be keeping my 360 busy for quite some time.

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nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

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I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

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They tell you that @ the board meeting?

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Nope. He tells them that at the board meetings. The TC is Aaron Greenberg after all.
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nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

lawlessx
thats a first, annoucning a game for it to be released a few months later. I know they do this with Scene It and Lips but anythign else would be a pleasant surprise.
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]Multiplats, Fallout 3 DLC x3, GTA DLC x 2, Race Pro, Star Ocean, Stoked, Halo Wars, Scene It 3, Lips 2, Halo 3: ODST...........after that call it a year. MS may announce more 09 games but this seems to be the most of what we are gonna expect. I suspect them shifting resources into next Xbox launch titles or saving them for 2010. Why? Because they won and they know it. Why try your best when you won the marketshare of the hardcore? Wii holds the casuals and MS has a majority stake on the core. They are gonna kick but in marketshare this year so why release your cards when you can just release ODST to solidify your stance? MS knows their gonna dominate the PS3 in sales in 09 (as a business thats all they care about). 2010 is when PS3 might be a bigger threat with the inevitable price drop effects. So thats why PS3 is releasing a lot of its cards this year.......they are desperate to get back the marketshare of the hardcore. MS isnt worried. They know that by just releasing ODST that theyll smoke the PS3 sales wise.

It seems like it wouldn't be a good idea just taking it easy right now. Maybe you're right, but I doubt that they'd do that. I figure that it's good to keep the pressure on and continue to bring new games and exciting features to their console. I do hope that they do some serious testing with their next console before they release it. I'm surprised that the 360 is in 2nd place right now given the whole RROD thing. It's actually impressive they've done so well with a console known for breaking down.
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All this rests on one flaw though, as a business you try and improve year upon year, which Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing. Releasing more now, will bring in more revenue for 2008, to be invested again in a cycle. You don't just stop and take a year off because you are "winning". It isnt what businesses do

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In that response lies a flaw. Every month, especially in Europe, the 360 is vastly selling better Year over year.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night TC :lol:.

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nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

lawlessx
Which is what they've always done. Last year was a freak occurance with Gears of War 2 at GDC.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

All this rests on one flaw though, as a business you try and improve year upon year, which Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing. Releasing more now, will bring in more revenue for 2008, to be invested again in a cycle. You don't just stop and take a year off because you are "winning". It isnt what businesses do

-M117-

In that response lies a flaw. Every month, especially in Europe, the 360 is vastly selling better Year over year.

Lol you clearly know nothing about business, when you're in the lead, you don't rest on your laurels, instead you're supposed to do everything you can to increase the lead. You fail.

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I really don't see them resting on their laurels. You don't get to the top of the corporate world by beating your opponent and then coasting to the finish line. You get there by using weapons and biting and low blows (in a corporate sense). As for their lineup, I have gained a little faith that they have something coming now. Hell, who here knew about Onlive before yesterday? Sometimes secrets can be kept.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night TC :lol:.

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I sleep just fine being #2, #1 HD console, #1 core console, or however you wanna call it. 360 still has a bigger library and more total A-AAA games then PS3.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

Aljosa23

I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

:lol:

Yeah, those were the only new games they announced at last years E3 and released in the same year, come to think of it.

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LOL they are not even close to done with 360

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I really don't see them resting on their laurels. You don't get to the top of the corporate world by beating your opponent and then coasting to the finish line. You get there by using weapons and biting and low blows (in a corporate sense). As for their lineup, I have gained a little faith that they have something coming now. Hell, who here knew about Onlive before yesterday? Sometimes secrets can be kept.

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I think the price gap and ODST are weapons enough for MS. So far the price gap is allowing impressive year over year growth. But I updated my list to include Ninja blade and 360/PC games like Velvet Assassin, Two WOrlds Temptation, Dungeon Hero, Battlestations Pacific. 360 still has an impressive lineup of games not on PS3 (notice how i didnt say "exclusive")
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

Floppy_Jim

I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

:lol:

Yeah, those were the only new games they announced at last years E3 and released in the same year, come to think of it.

and naruto:broken bond.
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Microsoft dosen't usually show off a game until it's almost ready for release, unlike Sony who will show off a game years before it will be released. Neither are bad business strategies. MS strategy allows for consumers to see a product that will be coming soon, allowing it to build hype, whereas Sony shows off a product years ahead, and allows it to build hype for a year or two before the game comes out. However both of these business strategies can be flawed, MS not showing off a lot of games until their almost ready, can cause what we see here, people giving up on the company for failing to show off new product ahead of time, whereas Sony showing off a product too early and letting the hype build for years can result in a product that dosen't live up to expectations.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

lawlessx

:lol:

Yeah, those were the only new games they announced at last years E3 and released in the same year, come to think of it.

and naruto:broken bond.

Ah.......how could I forget that? :P They won't wait until E3 to announce major new AAA games for the holiday, it gives very little time for hype to build up. So I'd expect something sooner rather than later.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

lawlessx

:lol:

Yeah, those were the only new games they announced at last years E3 and released in the same year, come to think of it.

and naruto:broken bond.

viva pinata 2? or was that pre-E3?
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

Floppy_Jim

I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

:lol:

Yeah, those were the only new games they announced at last years E3 and released in the same year, come to think of it.

E3 became a little too mainstream now that they air it on TV.

I don't think it's possible to keep an amazing game until a few months for release. It's good that the wait is shorter but the hype isn't there.

Imagine if FFXIII was announced last week, it would be totally different than it is now. :lol:

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

nope http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

they're waiting for E3 and TGS to announce more titles and will release them during the Q4

Aljosa23

I can't wait for Lips 2 and You're In The Movies 2! :D

That made me :lol: and :( at the same time.
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

They tell you that @ the board meeting?

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Nope. He tells them that at the board meetings. The TC is Aaron Greenberg after all.

:lol:, to this day I'm certain an SW poster writes for Yahoo!. Everytime we talk about something here, it always ends up in Yahoo's gaming section hours or a couple of days later. If they don't post regularly then they lurk the hell outta SW.

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When people talk about Microsoft here why do they always seem to forget the existence of Games For Windows? Games for Windows is just as much Microsoft's platform as Xbox is.
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When people talk about Microsoft here why do they always seem to forget the existence of Games For Windows? Games for Windows is just as much Microsoft's platform as Xbox is.Zero5000X
Ya I agree............but i left it out cause hermits tend to get their nickers in a twist when we say that :P
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

All this rests on one flaw though, as a business you try and improve year upon year, which Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing. Releasing more now, will bring in more revenue for 2008, to be invested again in a cycle. You don't just stop and take a year off because you are "winning". It isnt what businesses do

-M117-

In that response lies a flaw. Every month, especially in Europe, the 360 is vastly selling better Year over year.

Yes but businesses always try and press an advantage to further the revenue made. They have a responsibility to the shareholders of a company. Shareholders won't be happy if a company just takes a year off and just lets it's console sell out, they'll want to push more, increasing their own payout.

I just realised I put 2008 instead of 2009.

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When people talk about Microsoft here why do they always seem to forget the existence of Games For Windows? Games for Windows is just as much Microsoft's platform as Xbox is.Zero5000X

True, I personally don't like the platform, but that's just me.

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[QUOTE="-M117-"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

All this rests on one flaw though, as a business you try and improve year upon year, which Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing. Releasing more now, will bring in more revenue for 2008, to be invested again in a cycle. You don't just stop and take a year off because you are "winning". It isnt what businesses do

lundy86_4

In that response lies a flaw. Every month, especially in Europe, the 360 is vastly selling better Year over year.

Yes but businesses always try and press an advantage to further the revenue made. They have a responsibility to the shareholders of a company. Shareholders won't be happy if a company just takes a year off and just lets it's console sell out, they'll want to push more, increasing their own payout.

I just realised I put 2008 instead of 2009.

The list I made hardly says they are taking a year off. I dont know if your aware but there are plenty 360/PC games scheduled for 09 and ODST will surely cause a stir.
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They tell you that @ the board meeting?

bez2083

You didn't get the memo? Everyone who has an uncle's nephew's grandfather's sister's aunt's cousin's daughter who works at M$ got one!

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They tell you that @ the board meeting?

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derailing thread in the first response FTW!
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"] In that response lies a flaw. Every month, especially in Europe, the 360 is vastly selling better Year over year. -M117-

Yes but businesses always try and press an advantage to further the revenue made. They have a responsibility to the shareholders of a company. Shareholders won't be happy if a company just takes a year off and just lets it's console sell out, they'll want to push more, increasing their own payout.

I just realised I put 2008 instead of 2009.

The list I made hardly says they are taking a year off. I dont know if your aware but there are plenty 360/PC games scheduled for 09 and ODST will surely cause a stir.

I meant it more as an over-exaggeration, of course they're not taking a year off, but in terms of previous years, this is a slow one for Microsoft.

Sorry didn't mean to imply that :P