Why no love for NG2?

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#1 SgtWhiskeyjack
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I think it's the best of the series - yet it seems to get no love or hate onSW. Is it because it wasn't aaa or does everyone recognise its awesomeness?
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#2 Ragnarok1051
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It was a pretty funny flop being close to MGS4.
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#3 pyromaniac223
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It apparently flopped, even though it received great scores.
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#4 Fart_Storm
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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#5 Not-A-Stalker
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It's not really worth talking about. It's a broken game.
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#6 LibertySaint
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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lol wut? wouldn't it be the other way around...sigma is the exact same except with current gen graphics as ninga gaiden one... oh yeah it has some new missions... but lol saying that is just being st****.
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#7 Not-A-Stalker
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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Wow. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

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#8 Ninja-Hippo
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It got less than a 9, and therefore by system wars standards, is seen as absolutely worthless.
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#9 SgtWhiskeyjack
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It got less than a 9, and therefore by system wars standards, is seen as absolutely worthless.Ninja-Hippo
It didn't seem to stop the cows and what was once their DMC, which has never been aaa,from trying to compare it to NG.
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#10 Vaasman
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It just didn't set any benchmarks like it's predecessor did. NG1 is and probably will be the best action game for some time. NG2 is a great game, but nothing more. I think that's why most people don't talk about it much anymore.

edit: I should also mention that it is wildly inconsistant.

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#11 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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there was plenty of "love"

its just old news now

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#12 johnnyblazed88
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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LOL your a funny guy

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#13 Star67
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]It got less than a 9, and therefore by system wars standards, is seen as absolutely worthless.SgtWhiskeyjack
It didn't seem to stop the cows and what was once their DMC, which has never been aaa,from trying to compare it to NG.

DMC1 is AAA

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#14 JPOBS
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cuz devil may cry 4 is better.

better combat, better unlockables, better replay value, better story etc etc

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#15 PAL360
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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Your posts never make sense....How old are you?

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#16 TheRealMC01
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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Why, was NG2 too hard for you? (Oh wait, i bet you didn't play it.) I don't blame you since Team Ninja toned down the difficulty in Sigma. And better graphics? You just failed at trolling.

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#17 alexmurray
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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funniest thing I have heard all day

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#18 Mandingo101
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it just didnt live up to the hype of it's predecessor. still a decent game and all, it just has a lot of faults. and i think dmc4 actually has a higher average on gamerankings(havent checked lately so not sure)and i dont think anyone expected that
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#19 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

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#20 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

* i got black off marketplace, i gotta say the camra improved a bit *

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

* again a great improvment from black*

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

* i got black off marketplace, i gotta say the camra improved a bit *

I also got Black off the marketplace and the camera on NG2 is nowhere near as good as it is on Black.

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

* again a great improvment from black*

The backgrounds are improved and the character models are slightly, but I said it was a dissapointment to me, meaning I thought it would've looked better.

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

OK, let me rephrase that, MOST cows.

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#22 shaggygrosser
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I'll wait until a new patch comes out that fixes the old patch that broke the game. I know about the work-around, but still. A patch shouldn't break a game.
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#23 Vaasman
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Oh by the way the camera doesn't work in this game. It is utter and complete **** compared to the first.
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#24 MaximumD
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

* i got black off marketplace, i gotta say the camra improved a bit *

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

* again a great improvment from black*

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

darkspineslayer

Ninja Gaiden 2 is a big failure. If it was a multiplat, it would've done much much better. I would say that not long, they will port it over to the PS3.

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#25 Ryoco
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It was overshadowed by MGS4- greatest action game in years
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#26 Mongo-Boss
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Lemmings bashed Heavenly Sword to hell and back, NG2 got the same score. NGS is the highest rated hack and slash this gen. I still want to play NG2 but because of the previous it's hard for NG2 to get a lot of praise.
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#27 dracula_16
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It's not as good as NGB was. If someone's going to claim that they're game is going to be the best in the world, then they sure as hell better prove it. NG2 only proved that it was rushed. Still a good game....but rushed.
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

* i got black off marketplace, i gotta say the camra improved a bit *

I also got Black off the marketplace and the camera on NG2 is nowhere near as good as it is on Black.

*realy?, ok its your opinion. i just found the camra better on 2, its probably because i normaly play with the camra all the time and find that blacks inverted setup dosen't work*

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

* again a great improvment from black*

The backgrounds are improved and the character models are slightly, but I said it was a dissapointment to me, meaning I thought it would've looked better.

*guess i diden't have as high of expectations, as NG2 was my first NG*

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

OK, let me rephrase that, MOST cows.

*how in HELL am i a cow?*

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#29 Superbored
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Because it sucks?
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[QUOTE="bez2083"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

* i got black off marketplace, i gotta say the camra improved a bit *

I also got Black off the marketplace and the camera on NG2 is nowhere near as good as it is on Black.

*realy?, ok its your opinion. i just found the camra better on 2, its probably because i normaly play with the camra all the time and find that blacks inverted setup dosen't work*

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

* again a great improvment from black*

The backgrounds are improved and the character models are slightly, but I said it was a dissapointment to me, meaning I thought it would've looked better.

*guess i diden't have as high of expectations, as NG2 was my first NG*

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

OK, let me rephrase that, MOST cows.

*how in HELL am i a cow?*

darkspineslayer

I wasn't calling you a cow, I was just saying most cows in general. My bad.

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#31 AtrumRegina
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it;s too hard for these noobs on this board.
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#32 GoldenGlove
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I still play NG2. I've put over 50 hours into it. I put about the same in DMC4. NG2 just was rushed. Plain and simple. The game could of blew us all away if Team Ninja had more time. The game's combat is really unmatched as far as I'm concerned. I also feel like the weapons are the best of any action game. The amount of quality in the weapons even overshadow playin' with the Blades of Chaos in the God of War series.

Ninja Cinema needs more polish. If the game wasn't rushed it would have been the best action game by far.

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#33 foxhound_fox
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Because Dante said so...

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#34 stepat201
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Because it's a last gen game. Sigma was miles better, and had better graphics.

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Translation: Sigma is better because it's on the Playstation.

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it flopped
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#36 boyinfridge
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1. It's not as good as the first (camera absolutely horrible at times, story is complete garbage)

1a. Kinda disappointing from a graphical standpoint.

2. It has little to no chance of coming to PS3 so cows don't automatically like it and will tell you the GoW & DMC are better.

bez2083

what was wrong with the camera thats all I hear people saying I found just a good as the camera in the first just control it yourself worked fine for me

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#37 lolkie_81
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cuz devil may cry 4 is better.

better combat, better unlockables, better replay value, better story etc etc

JPOBS

I would have to agree, I just had more fun with dmc4. I at least wanted to see what happened in the story, I couldnt have cared less about ng2's story right off the bat.

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#38 locopatho
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Camera is crap. Game is cheap not skillful. Some rough graphics. Very disappointing for me, I won't be buying til it's like 10 or 15.
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#39 abdu4
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They should have taken their time, instead of rushing it.
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#40 rockguy92
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It was overshadowed by Metal Gear.
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#41 SgtWhiskeyjack
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Oh by the way the camera doesn't work in this game. It is utter and complete **** compared to the first.Vaasman

:| I'm confused. I control the camera in this one, I couldn't in NGB.

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#42 acekall
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Oh by the way the camera doesn't work in this game. It is utter and complete **** compared to the first.SgtWhiskeyjack

:| I'm confused. I control the camera in this one, I couldn't in NGB.

some guys told be I would have terrible camera problems in chapter 10, I never had any. If camera is bothering you do a flying swallow with A+X and then hit RT to center camera, that always worked for me.

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#43 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Oh by the way the camera doesn't work in this game. It is utter and complete **** compared to the first.SgtWhiskeyjack

:| I'm confused. I control the camera in this one, I couldn't in NGB.

Lets not kid anyone here, it sucks balls. It sucked in NGB, but even then you only fought around 5 guys at a time max. In NG2 that is an average fight, with them going up to around 10 or 15 if you include ranged guys. This presents a problem because the camera never even centers properly to see any but those right on you. Yes you can recenter but it always slides back to a bad position, and in the heat of combat do you really want to waste your focus on retargeting? Not only that but it allows way to many surprise moments, where you go up a small pathway and enemies who jump from even a very slight turn can't be seen, or especially with the werewolves, who throw severed limbs at you that do tons of damage, and you can't even see it until you are hit.

Even on the bosses it sucks, which is amazingly sad because all they had to do was keep it cenetered on the boss and it would have been fine, like they did in NGB. But no, the camera prefers to instead wander aimlessly around, even when you target the boss. It's the worst on the huge bone demon thing because it keeps getting stuck in the wall, and you just have to constantly push the L trigger the whole fight. If you decide to take the camera off the boss, then you just die quicker, because frequently you cant even see him at all, much less have a terrible view.

So yes, the camera sucks, and it is one of the main reasons I gave this a 7.5 instead of a 9, which I so desperately wanted to do, but... damn.

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#44 Makari
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[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Oh by the way the camera doesn't work in this game. It is utter and complete **** compared to the first.Vaasman

:| I'm confused. I control the camera in this one, I couldn't in NGB.

Lets not kid anyone here, it sucks balls. It sucked in NGB, but even then you only fought around 5 guys at a time max. In NG2 that is an average fight, with them going up to around 10 or 15 if you include ranged guys. This presents a problem because the camera never even centers properly to see any but those right on you. Yes you can recenter but it always slides back to a bad position, and in the heat of combat do you really want to waste your focus on retargeting? Not only that but it allows way to many surprise moments, where you go up a small pathway and enemies who jump from even a very slight turn can't be seen, or especially with the werewolves, who throw severed limbs at you that do tons of damage, and you can't even see it until you are hit.

Even on the bosses it sucks, which is amazingly sad because all they had to do was keep it cenetered on the boss and it would have been fine, like they did in NGB. But no, the camera prefers to instead wander aimlessly around, even when you target the boss. It's the worst on the huge bone demon thing because it keeps getting stuck in the wall, and you just have to constantly push the L trigger the whole fight. If you decide to take the camera off the boss, then you just die quicker, because frequently you cant even see him at all, much less have a terrible view.

So yes, the camera sucks, and it is one of the main reasons I gave this a 7.5 instead of a 9, which I so desperately wanted to do, but... damn.

though i agree that the camera sucked large nuts, it COULD lock onto the bosses like in NGB. you could manually lock or unlock the camera as you wished, something i did fairly often heh.