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One would expect that pc with the most powerfull by far hardware, have the best looking games, but instead it has only one so far, called Crysis

When will it have games looking as good as Mass Effect, FF13, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Gears of War etc ? Nearly ALL console games i want look from amazing to absolutly stunning, they are nearly 30, when i can only think of a very few pc ones that look any good, also the best looking ones on pc are for 360 too most of the time

What is wrong with pc developers ? Are they too lazy or something, or are pc standards so low and games look any good only when they develop them for console too with only a very few exceptions ?

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ya...this thread dropped a bomb.
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ya...this thread dropped a bomb.whoisryanmack
This thread set us up the BOMB!
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When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

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not for sure all that smart stuff you saying but i know most games that come out on pc and others the pc version looks best.

not even for sure of what kind of new games pc has i have a 7600 graphics card cant run any of the new games so have no idea.

but those 360 games sure do look good so do ps3 games and even wii games look cool. maybe something should change with pc.

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When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

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Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

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When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

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The PC is in a sort of transitional period right now. New hardware is being released which supports a new API called D3D10 and will enable developers to push out better looking games. Some current-gen console games look better than games on the PC right now because the hardware in these consoles are equivalent to around a midrange PC, and it would be risky to alienate the majority of the market to make a game with incredible graphics. In about a year or so, new PC games should start to pump out consistently better graphics than games on the 360 or PS3. As a matter of fact, many games on the PC are already better looking than their console counterparts such as Battlestations: Midway, Quake 4, Prey, Rainbow Six: Vegas, etc.
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

XaosII

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

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.secretsaiyan007

I counted 4 games that look next gen IN ALL THOSE !!! You 1000% proved my point, so many games, so bad quality of graphics in 99% of them ....

I have to admit, the non 3d adventures look LOVELY though, a huge miss from consoles

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PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360:  Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

XaosII

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360:  Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

Nice try, GEARS !!!

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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360: Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

Nice try, GEARS !!!



Gears came out last year.....
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

All AA games. FF has gone crap now, and is not a 2007 game. MGS4 is a sequel to an AA game, Heavenly Sword is another fighter that will most likely again, be AA.


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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Actually, the correct answer is 0. None of those games are out.
[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360: Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

Nice try, GEARS !!!

Gears is a 2006 game genius. Do you want to count up the AAA titles from 2006? PC still wins you know.
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[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"].tricyclon123

I counted 4 games that look next gen IN ALL THOSE !!! You 1000% proved my point, so many games, so bad quality of graphics in 99% of them ....

I have to admit, the non 3d adventures look LOVELY though, a huge miss from consoles

First of all, PC devs always have to cater to lower-end systems.

But Bioshock, Crysis, Quake Wars, Supreme Commander, World in Conflict, Hellgate: London, Dragon Age, Unreal Tournament 3, STALKER, Warmonger, Assansin's Creed, Age of Conan, Stranglehold, C&C 3, Shadowrun, Portal, Brothers in Arms 3, Huxely, GRAW 2, Alone in the Dark 5, Intersteller Marines, Splinter Cell 5,  etc. are all easily next-gen games.
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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

Danm_999

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Actually, the correct answer is 0. None of those games are out.
[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360: Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

Nice try, GEARS !!!

Gears is a 2006 game genius. Do you want to count up the AAA titles from 2006? PC still wins you know.

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

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PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.XenoNinja
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For a RTS, Company of Heroes looks absolutely fantastic.
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Actually, the correct answer is 0. None of those games are out.
[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

When consoles are released they always have great looking games. after about a year or two they gpa starts widening. Dont believe me? Find me a game that looked better than Soul Calibur in 1999, 2000, and maybe even 2001.

Aside from the fact that PC - console multiplats, like Oblivion, run and look better on the PC, PC games still look pretty good and still have more AAA titles every year compared to any other system.

tricyclon123

Damage control already ? Come on, you can do better than that

How many AAA titles out for the 360 and the PS3 this year? I wouldnt be too proud with a system that has all pretty graphics and terrible gameplay.

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, Resident Evil 5, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, try to beat those for starters

And then comes Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2 etc

PS3: White Knight, FF13, Unknown Realms, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, NG:Sigma etc etc

Ehm, nice try. How many AAA are already out this year?

360: Zero.

PS3: Zero.

Wii: 1.

PC: 1.

Wow..... looks like all the system with the "worst" graphics seem to have the best games. Giving me that list of potential titles doesnt prove anything.

Nice try, GEARS !!!

Gears is a 2006 game genius. Do you want to count up the AAA titles from 2006? PC still wins you know.

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

Oh wow....so many fanboys have set themselves up here..
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You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

tricyclon123
Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;
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Could we end the quote chains?
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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

Danm_999

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???

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Once DX10 is mainstream, EVERY game will look like Crysis.
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Once DX10 is mainstream, EVERY game will look like Crysis.bloodychimp

Like all pc games are as good as Far Cry ? NONE is so far, after so many years, it owuld take 5-6 years for any other pc game to be like Crysis

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

tricyclon123

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???

Oh, you mean future games? Well, I can't tell you what is going to be AAA (and you can't say all those consoles games are AAA) but here are some popular choices for AAA games ones; Crysis
STALKER Dragon Age Hellgate London Spore Supreme Commander Burning Crusade Multiplats (these are all going to look better and scale higher on PC): UT3 Bioshock Gears of War Two Worlds Huxley Alan Wake Assasin's Creed C&C 3 Shivering Isles Also consider that Halo 3, Fable 2 and Mass Effect are all very likely to make their way to the PC, as their developers and franchises have history with the PC, and their predessecors have all ported to the PC.
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[QUOTE="bloodychimp"]Once DX10 is mainstream, EVERY game will look like Crysis.tricyclon123

Like all pc games are as good as Far Cry ? NONE is so far, after so many years, it owuld take 5-6 years for any other pc game to be like Crysis

Most modern PC games do look as good or better than Far Cry.... It's a 2004 game for goodness sake.
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

tricyclon123

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???



As far as shooters go, TF2, UT3 (the REAL version) and Crysis will all pwn Halo 3. PC really has nothing to go up against NG2, but thats like asking consoles to put an RTS up against Supreme Commander. Same case with RE5. As far as RPG's go, we are getting Hellgate London, Dragon Age (from Bioware) and Witcher (Bioware backed) and the eventual KOTOR3 (also Bioware) and if we are talking FUTURE Diablo 3 will arive to pwn every console RPG. There is also the plethora of MMORPGs to come out every year. And face it, Mass Effect and Fable 2 will most likely be on the PC by the end of 2008. Oh, and I almost forgot, Mark Rein says Gears is coming to PC. So yeah, we have a lot of AAA games to keep us busy.
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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

bloodychimp

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???



As far as shooters go, TF2, UT3 (the REAL version) and Crysis will all pwn Halo 3. PC really has nothing to go up against NG2, but thats like asking consoles to put an RTS up against Supreme Commander. Same case with RE5. As far as RPG's go, we are getting Hellgate London, Dragon Age (from Bioware) and Witcher (Bioware backed) and the eventual KOTOR3 (also Bioware) and if we are talking FUTURE Diablo 3 will arive to pwn every console RPG. There is also the plethora of MMORPGs to come out every year. And face it, Mass Effect and Fable 2 will most likely be on the PC by the end of 2008. Oh, and I almost forgot, Mark Rein says Gears is coming to PC. So yeah, we have a lot of AAA games to keep us busy.

It's likely that Diablo 3 (or Starcraft 2) will be announced this year, that's true.
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[QUOTE="bloodychimp"]Once DX10 is mainstream, EVERY game will look like Crysis.tricyclon123

Like all pc games are as good as Far Cry ? NONE is so far, after so many years, it owuld take 5-6 years for any other pc game to be like Crysis


I suggest you look at some shots from HL2:E2 and Hellgate London
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[QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

Danm_999

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???



As far as shooters go, TF2, UT3 (the REAL version) and Crysis will all pwn Halo 3. PC really has nothing to go up against NG2, but thats like asking consoles to put an RTS up against Supreme Commander. Same case with RE5. As far as RPG's go, we are getting Hellgate London, Dragon Age (from Bioware) and Witcher (Bioware backed) and the eventual KOTOR3 (also Bioware) and if we are talking FUTURE Diablo 3 will arive to pwn every console RPG. There is also the plethora of MMORPGs to come out every year. And face it, Mass Effect and Fable 2 will most likely be on the PC by the end of 2008. Oh, and I almost forgot, Mark Rein says Gears is coming to PC. So yeah, we have a lot of AAA games to keep us busy.

It's likely that Diablo 3 (or Starcraft 2) will be announced this year, that's true.



If Diablo 3 is nothing more than Diablo 2 with skill trees like WoW talents (in the sense that you can pay to redistribute them) and characters that dont go poof every 3 monthes I will be happy.
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PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.XenoNinja
Umm....... I suggest you learn about computers before talking about them like you know stuff about them.
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PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.XenoNinja

lmao..I think my IQ just dropped a couple points whilst reading that.
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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.Velocitas8

lmao..I think my IQ just dropped a couple points whilst reading that.

Computers run on batteries didn't you know!!!
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PC's can't handle console games now, because there isn't enough power being supplied to the motherboard.XenoNinja
Do you even know what a motherboard is? :|
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You want amazing? You do the following -go the the store and buy Flight Simulator X -go back home and install it -go tro oner of numerous FS fansites and downlad the texture packs -install it -run the game after those 5 steps you get :    amazing? yes. And no console from this gen will ever be able to handle that, even in 5 years when devs will be squeezing every last drop of juice from 360 and ps3 those consoles won't be able to handle that.
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You want amazing? You do the following -go the the store and buy Flight Simulator X -go back home and install it -go tro oner of numerous FS fansites and downlad the texture packs -install it -run the game after those 5 steps you get :    amazing? yes. And no console from this gen will ever be able to handle that, even in 5 years when devs will be squeezing every last drop of juice from 360 and ps3 those consoles won't be able to handle that.AdrianWerner
:o Woah
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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

bloodychimp

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???



As far as shooters go, TF2, UT3 (the REAL version) and Crysis will all pwn Halo 3. PC really has nothing to go up against NG2, but thats like asking consoles to put an RTS up against Supreme Commander. Same case with RE5. As far as RPG's go, we are getting Hellgate London, Dragon Age (from Bioware) and Witcher (Bioware backed) and the eventual KOTOR3 (also Bioware) and if we are talking FUTURE Diablo 3 will arive to pwn every console RPG. There is also the plethora of MMORPGs to come out every year. And face it, Mass Effect and Fable 2 will most likely be on the PC by the end of 2008. Oh, and I almost forgot, Mark Rein says Gears is coming to PC. So yeah, we have a lot of AAA games to keep us busy.

Of course pc does have some games to rival consoles in distant future, but that is the point, all that power for nothing yet, kotor 3 will be on 360 too, and a Dragon Age spin off is confirmed for PS3 or 360, as for Witcher, no it does not look next gen at all

I agree Crysis will own Halo 3 in graphics (not gameplay of course), but still we DO NOT know how Halo 3 looks in reality

As for ...Diablo 3 .... stop playing MMOPRG's, if ALL gamers stop wasting time on crap MMORPG's, then maybe just maybe they go back to making real games like Diablo 3 and Warcraft, for now they will stop making games other than WOW upgrades, just forget Diablo 3 or anything else, pc gaming just destroyed chaces for many good rpg's with the million MMORPG's garbages coming out all the time

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Like all pc games are as good as Far Cry ? NONE is so far, after so many years, it owuld take 5-6 years for any other pc game to be like Crysis.tricyclon123
there are games better looking than Far Cry. and yoy shouldn't brag...where are all those console games that even match, let alone surpass Gears level? I can think of maybe one :FFXIII and that will come in 2008. why can't consoles have good graphics? It will take them over 2 years just to reach level of a fricking 2006 game? Not cool
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#44 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

You read the thread title ? Anyway, name those "AAA pc games" then

tricyclon123

Yes I did. And it's because of the generational leap. Call it damage control, but it's what happens when a new series of consoles get released. Sony and Microsoft strive to make them quite powerful at the time of their launch, so that they can compete for their life span (whether it be 5 to 10 years). In the first few months, they match high end PCs. Then, they equal them. Now, high end PCs absolutely destroy what the 360 and PS3 is capable of, and that's made most evident by the Directx 10 leap. Gears of War is the best looking game at the moment (but it's coming out for PC). But that's going to change this year with Crysis. UT3 will also look better on PC than it does on consoles according to Mark Rein; as Oblivion already does (texture packs blow console versions out of the water). Mass Effect looks great, but it's simply a souped up Dx9 game, which will probably port to PC (as Bioware haven't made a game which didn't go to PC). As for your question about the PC AAA titles, let's compare 2006 360 exclusives vs PC exclusives; For 360: Gears of War (I'm being generous, since this isn't going to be an exclusive for much longer). For PC; GTR 2 (racer GOTY) Company of Heroes Galatic Civ 2 World Soccer 9 Diner Dash ;

??? So, where are those AAA pc games ?? And i am talking future here, which are the FUTURE pc games to rival Halo 3, Ninja gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, FF13, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey ???



As far as shooters go, TF2, UT3 (the REAL version) and Crysis will all pwn Halo 3. PC really has nothing to go up against NG2, but thats like asking consoles to put an RTS up against Supreme Commander. Same case with RE5. As far as RPG's go, we are getting Hellgate London, Dragon Age (from Bioware) and Witcher (Bioware backed) and the eventual KOTOR3 (also Bioware) and if we are talking FUTURE Diablo 3 will arive to pwn every console RPG. There is also the plethora of MMORPGs to come out every year. And face it, Mass Effect and Fable 2 will most likely be on the PC by the end of 2008. Oh, and I almost forgot, Mark Rein says Gears is coming to PC. So yeah, we have a lot of AAA games to keep us busy.

Of course pc does have some games to rival consoles in distant future, but that is the point, all that power for nothing yet, kotor 3 will be on 360 too, and a Dragon Age spin off is confirmed for PS3 or 360, as for Witcher, no it does not look next gen at all

I agree Crysis will own Halo 3 in graphics (not gameplay of course), but still we DO NOT know how Halo 3 looks in reality

As for ...Diablo 3 .... stop playing MMOPRG's, if ALL gamers stop wasting time on crap MMORPG's, then maybe just maybe they go back to making real games like Diablo 3 and Warcraft, for now they will stop making games other than WOW upgrades, just forget Diablo 3 or anything else, pc gaming just destroyed chaces for many good rpg's with the million MMORPG's garbages coming out all the time

1) There is no confirmed Dragon Age spin off for PS3/360.
2) Who said Diablo 3 would be an MMORPG? RPGs are still released. 3) Halo 3's gameplay is still a mystery, how can you say it will be better?
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As for ...Diablo 3 .... stop playing MMOPRG's, if ALL gamers stop wasting time on crap MMORPG's, then maybe just maybe they go back to making real games like Diablo 3 and Warcraft, for now they will stop making games other than WOW upgrades, just forget Diablo 3 or anything else, pc gaming just destroyed chaces for many good rpg's with the million MMORPG's garbages coming out all the timetricyclon123
first of all Diablo3 won't be MMO second even with all the MMOs Pc is still getting many promising wRPGs, I can't say the same about 360( the only decent looking exclusive wRPG that's coming to it is ME and that looks like like a good shooter, medicore RPG type of game)
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Consoles stay competitive until the point where hardware optimization cannot compensate for PC's brute force. Usually about halfway throughout the generation i'd say.
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DAMN !!!! Those FS pics OWNED ME !!!!!

I swear to you, the time a RPG comes and you can fly on a dragon, overlooking a castle in that detailed ground, then go down and attack it, i will SMASH MY 360 !!!

So, i can add this to Crysis and Modded Oblivion, reasons for a new pc constantly pop up it seems !!!!

Too much trouble to find all those mods though, any good mod sites ?

Would an AGP 1950Pro run this as it is ?

EDIT: I NEVER suggested Diablo 3 will be MMORPG (god forbid !!!), i wouls stop gaming in protest and bomb the developers offices

I just said that they make money from WOW and have no time for anything else as it seems

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Could i have those FS pics in HD ??? Any links? I want it for wallpaper ... what a game !!!

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Most PC games are tailored to work on PCs that were made two and three years ago so of course alot of the games don't compare to console games now.
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Most PC games are tailored to work on PCs that were made two and three years ago so of course alot of the games don't compare to console games now.InfamousC

But i never suggested otherwise, it is just infuriating to only see modded games look AMAZING, the others only as good or far worst than 360 or PS3 ones

Those FS pics are STUNNING though, does it take DX10 pc to run it like that ? Or just much ram ?