Why people should be quite disappointed if Xbox Ones fails

We are currently coming off of one of the best gens ever with the PS3 and Xbox 360. And it's all down to one thing, competition.

Sony and MS have both pushed each other so hard to do better and improve.

What would the PS3 have been like without MS forcing Sony to get up off their ass and fight for their lives, because at the beginning of this gen, Sony were so used to being default market leaders, they weren't doing much.

For a start PSN would still be pretty basic, I doubt PSN Plus would have ever happened. Would Sony have felt the need to really improve/evolve itself or the feature set of the console. The PS4 would never have been designed the way it was. The PS4 looks to really be a competition console (business model and architecture), where as the PS3 was forced to compete, when Sony hadn't expected to.

Likewise without Sony, MS would NEVER have evolved from the first Xbox to the Xbox 360 (not talking about hardware here) and continued after that. Why would they have felt the need.

With MS jumping off the cliff, who will push Sony to evolve past the PS4s initial state.

Competitions healthy and MSs failure is nothing to celebrate or laugh at, because it's the gamer that losses.

This isn't damage control, i've already said i'm leaning towards the PS4.

Time for Sega to come back with a new console!

Competition is always good for consumers.  But I still don't understand MS.  Why would you create a device that severely limits your possible buyers, offer inferior hardware for a 100 more, and be so smug about it.  They took two huge steps back and hopefully they learn from it after x1's gen ends.

Also, if we as consumers find something is horrible for the hobby we are in, it's fine to hope it fails.   That doesn't mean we don't want Sony to have any competition moving forward though.

Implying any cow will even bother reading that post. Implying there aren't already ten cows typing out 'U MUST BE A LEM!!!' as I write this. Implying many implications. Ninja-Hippo

:P lol

Actually MS have already shown they can compete in the market on level terms so if their approach fails this time it would simply make them try a new approach. It wouldn't make them withdraw completely.cakeorrdeath

I agree competition is good, but we have more to lose by them succeeding than them failing. It sets a dangerous precedent with all these ways they try to directly control physical and digital software. It'd be just as bad for them to be a success. Be nice if they'd scrap this and put gamers first again like they mostly did with the 360 though even then, they were trying to squeeze money every way they could at gamer's expense.Kekira

Good point, maybe MS should fail at the begining and realise they have to drop the things people are pissed off about.

i really don't care.

companies screw things up then (hopefully)  learn from it and move on.

the 360 was designed at its heart as a way to get a piece of the new market of peoples living rooms as a revenue stream and no matter what kind of fail the x1 ends up being they are not going to give up on it.

there is just too much money to be made.

ms itself would literally have to go out of business completely for them to not have a way to sell you movies and music from your couch.

Competition also eliminates idiots, and opens up room for the new and innovative.

I don't want any of them to fail.

Why people should be quite disappointed if the Xbox One fails:

They shouldn't be.

"MS is good for competition."
Only gamers would say something like that.
It's good to have competition, but of all the companies that could be a competitor they are perhaps the worst.

Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

"MS is good for competition."
Only gamers would say something like that.
It's good to have competition, but of all the companies that could be a competitor they are perhaps the worst.

KungfuKitten

Anyone who is adequate competition is good.

Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

Bebi_vegeta

They're competition to each other though.

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Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

HalcyonScarlet

They're competition to each other though.

A little failure can be good for competition. It was the failed launch of the PS3 that helped get Sony back to their A game. A failure for the XBone could help get MS to shift its focus and polices back to catering to providing a top notch gaming experience build around preferences of gamers.Mazoch

Well put. Sometimes people need to lose to realise their weaknesses.

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Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

HalcyonScarlet

They're competition to each other though.

How bad was Sony doing without Microsoft in the picture.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

Bread_or_Decide

They're competition to each other though.

Whens that happening by the way?

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Where's the competition... it sounds like a duopoly. Both are charging for online...

Bebi_vegeta

They're competition to each other though.

How bad was Sony doing without Microsoft in the picture.

They were on top, but they were moving sideways instead of up.

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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

They're competition to each other though.

HalcyonScarlet

How bad was Sony doing without Microsoft in the picture.

They were on top, but they were moving sideways instead of up.

What, how ?

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

How bad was Sony doing without Microsoft in the picture.

Bebi_vegeta

They were on top, but they were moving sideways instead of up.

What, how ?

Well the PS3 would have just been a PS2 with better graphics. That's pretty much what it was like when it launched.

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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

They were on top, but they were moving sideways instead of up.

HalcyonScarlet

What, how ?

Well the PS3 would have just been a PS2 with better graphics. That's pretty much what it was like when it launched.

Yet Microsoft was already long time in the picture... remember PS2/Xbox ?

Eventually consoles will adopt always-online; it just won't happen this gen. Microsoft took a risky gamble by adopting it early and ended up presenting it to consumers through lies and half-truths, which is why they're getting slaughtered in the press.princeofshapeir

it certainly caught me by surprise.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Eventually consoles will adopt always-online; it just won't happen this gen. Microsoft took a risky gamble by adopting it early and ended up presenting it to consumers through lies and half-truths, which is why they're getting slaughtered in the press.Riverwolf007

it certainly caught me by surprise.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What, how ?

Bebi_vegeta

Well the PS3 would have just been a PS2 with better graphics. That's pretty much what it was like when it launched.

Yet Microsoft was already long time in the picture... remember PS2/Xbox ?

But MS didn't push their game until the 360.

The PS2 gen was better. And M$ brought more bad things than good things. If they fail good riddance. Almost anyone out there would make a better competitor.kuraimen

And you still won''t buy a PS4.;)

ps1 curbstomped its competition and we got one of the best consoles ever, the ps2, is a matter of how companies approach their products, with ps3 they got cocky but i think they've learned their lesson, we might have the next ps2 comming.

The PS2 gen was better. And M$ brought more bad things than good things. If they fail good riddance. Almost anyone out there would make a better competitor.kuraimen

Last gen games and no online?

I don't want the XboxOne to fail. Neither do I want the Wii-U to fail (granted I'm not interested in the hardware but *sigh* I'll settle for the inevitable games). I want all three to continue making games I like. Without Microsoft, Sony would gain great hegemony and influence over the video game industry and able to jack up the price on their console or whatever. Then just say, "Deal with it."

I don't want the XboxOne to fail. However, I'm not supporting it like it is. Screw that.

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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Well the PS3 would have just been a PS2 with better graphics. That's pretty much what it was like when it launched.

HalcyonScarlet

Yet Microsoft was already long time in the picture... remember PS2/Xbox ?

But MS didn't push their game until the 360.

Push What ? 

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yet Microsoft was already long time in the picture... remember PS2/Xbox ?

Bebi_vegeta

But MS didn't push their game until the 360.

Push What ? 

The most innovative thing they came up with was the boomerang controller which they quickly discarded. Now look at them go, Sony have gone from underestimating the competition to wanting to destroy them.

Nintendo changed in a big way because of the tough competition from Sony, it's the way things are, everyone does it, everyone has to adapt to changes.

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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

But MS didn't push their game until the 360.

HalcyonScarlet

Push What ? 

The most innovative thing they came up with was the boomerang controller which they quickly discarded. Now look at them go, Sony have gone from underestimating the competition to wanting to destroy them.

Nintendo changed in a big way because of the tough competition from Sony, it's the way things are, everyone does it, everyone has to adapt to changes.

To me only Nintendo changed and tried something different... and they suceded. As for the Sony and Microsoft... their both very similar. 

I don't see your point with third party relations or online service... Online service was a natural evolution... It's not like either of them invented the online gaming...

Why we should be glad Xbone fails: shows how strong the community is about anti consumer policies and it will keep the industry giants in check.bbkkristian

pretty much shows companies cant do w/e they want.