why so much hate for the 360 lately?

That happens when you overhype and underdeliver.PS_Family

Kinda like Sony and the PS3 with games like Motorstorm?

It's a role reversal... last year Sony was in the dumps, now MS is having a rough early '08. Times change.TDLlama

That happens when you overhype and underdeliver.PS_Family

wow ....if you say so......i cant wait to have something to play on my ps3...the last thing i bought for it was "no country for old men"....if anything sony needs to pick up the pace......i love my ps3 and anticipate much more games for it than my 360 right now....but my 360 is the system that has actually been played due to the fact that it has "DELIVERED" games

That happens when you overhype and underdeliver.PS_Family

Which is what Sony has ALWAYS done.

i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps indian_playa

Yes, because Fable, Banjo Kazooie, and Ninja Gaiden are FPS.

i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps indian_playa

C'mon, "past its prime" when Gears 2 has been announced for the end of the year? When GTAIV is going to have huge DLC on the system? When games like Too Human, Fable 2, and Halo Wars are gaining hype with every month that passes? The idea that the 360 is the "Halo system" is something that only fanboys who don't have one believe; the original Xbox may have survived mostly on the strength of the first two games in that series, but Halo 3 was not the beginning of the 360, nor will it be the end of the console. If anything, people can now get over Halo, and move on to the many other games that deserve attention. Hell, with Mistwalker and even SquareEnix lending some RPG support to the 360 (not to mention the Tales series coming over), the 360 is getting better and the lineup is getting more and more diverse. Hardware failures have certainly hurt the 360 so far, but with even those slowing (and hopefully disappearing in the near future), there's no real reason to claim that the 360 is "past its prime".

If anything, the 360 is getting even better with age. Now all MS needs is blu-ray add-on. ;)

[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps SeanBond

C'mon, "past its prime" when Gears 2 has been announced for the end of the year? When GTAIV is going to have huge DLC on the system? When games like Too Human, Fable 2, and Halo Wars are gaining hype with every month that passes? The idea that the 360 is the "Halo system" is something that only fanboys who don't have one believe; the original Xbox may have survived mostly on the strength of the first two games in that series, but Halo 3 was not the beginning of the 360, nor will it be the end of the console. If anything, people can now get over Halo, and move on to the many other games that deserve attention. Hell, with Mistwalker and even SquareEnix lending some RPG support to the 360 (not to mention the Tales series coming over), the 360 is getting better and the lineup is getting more and more diverse. Hardware failures have certainly hurt the 360 so far, but with even those slowing (and hopefully disappearing in the near future), there's no real reason to claim that the 360 is "past its prime".

If anything, the 360 is getting even better with age. Now all MS needs is blu-ray add-on. ;)

its definitly got a good line up of games coming...but i see much more potential in what the ps3 will be able to do....im not sure how much more the 360 is capable of

That happens when you overhype and underdeliver.PS_Family

The 360 runs the games charts. They certainly aren't underdelivering. If any console undelivers its the one with games that the install base doesn't deem worth buying.

I mean, I just can't understand why there has been so much hate towards it lately. I mean if you ask me, 2008 is shaping up to be a great year for it with games like Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, and Banjo Kazooie 3. Out of all 3 systems, it has the lineup I'm looking forward to the most. Granted the PS3 has Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MGS 4, GT5, and LBP, and the Wii has good games coming too, it has as much staying power as the other 2 systems. I just don't understand what the uproar against it is about.sebs09

IMO these 2008 games for 360, totally destroy any game PS3 comes up with in 2008, especially mediocre shooters for me like Killzone 2, Haze and generic stuff like that

So, it is not called hate, it is called damage control

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[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

C'mon, "past its prime" when Gears 2 has been announced for the end of the year? When GTAIV is going to have huge DLC on the system? When games like Too Human, Fable 2, and Halo Wars are gaining hype with every month that passes? The idea that the 360 is the "Halo system" is something that only fanboys who don't have one believe; the original Xbox may have survived mostly on the strength of the first two games in that series, but Halo 3 was not the beginning of the 360, nor will it be the end of the console. If anything, people can now get over Halo, and move on to the many other games that deserve attention. Hell, with Mistwalker and even SquareEnix lending some RPG support to the 360 (not to mention the Tales series coming over), the 360 is getting better and the lineup is getting more and more diverse. Hardware failures have certainly hurt the 360 so far, but with even those slowing (and hopefully disappearing in the near future), there's no real reason to claim that the 360 is "past its prime".

If anything, the 360 is getting even better with age. Now all MS needs is blu-ray add-on. ;)

its definitly got a good line up of games coming...but i see much more potential in what the ps3 will be able to do....im not sure how much more the 360 is capable of

See, I've got a PS3, and like I believe you mentioned earlier, it's an awesome blu-ray player, but as to potential...Well, I haven't seen anything that's led me to believe developers are going to be doing anything on the PS3 that they couldn't do on the 360. Is it possible that the PS3 will show it's "true power" someday? Sure. But so far it's all talk, and since I've had much more fun with my 360 gaming-wise, I see no reason to give up on it now.

its not a matter of giving up on a system......its noticing that uncharted felt more alive than alot of my 360 games......im looking forward to what killzone2 ,resistance 2 ,mgs4, and lbp bring to the table....they all look alot better than what ive come to expect from my 360(graphically of course)....but im just stating observation because im also stoked for quite a few 360 games also...not because they look like they push any real boundries...but bc they look funi_Pwn_TheVuhJay

Sorry, Mass Effect, Lost odyssey, Viva Pinata, Blue Dragon felt 1000x more alive than Drake static worlds and emtpy levels, or enemies that fell from the sky

Fable 2 will have more life and AI in it, than ALL PS3 excluisve games coming out the next 2 years too

[QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"]its not a matter of giving up on a system......its noticing that uncharted felt more alive than alot of my 360 games......im looking forward to what killzone2 ,resistance 2 ,mgs4, and lbp bring to the table....they all look alot better than what ive come to expect from my 360(graphically of course)....but im just stating observation because im also stoked for quite a few 360 games also...not because they look like they push any real boundries...but bc they look funsaolin323

Sorry, Mass Effect, Lost odyssey, Viva Pinata, Blue Dragon felt 1000x more alive than Drake static worlds and emtpy levels, or enemies that fell from the sky

Fable 2 will have more life and AI in it, than ALL PS3 excluisve games coming out the next 2 years too

I see you're still acting like you have a Ps3, nice.

i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps indian_playa

[QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"]its not a matter of giving up on a system......its noticing that uncharted felt more alive than alot of my 360 games......im looking forward to what killzone2 ,resistance 2 ,mgs4, and lbp bring to the table....they all look alot better than what ive come to expect from my 360(graphically of course)....but im just stating observation because im also stoked for quite a few 360 games also...not because they look like they push any real boundries...but bc they look funsaolin323

Sorry, Mass Effect, Lost odyssey, Viva Pinata, Blue Dragon felt 1000x more alive than Drake static worlds and emtpy levels, or enemies that fell from the sky

Fable 2 will have more life and AI in it, than ALL PS3 excluisve games coming out the next 2 years too

well maybe you didn't notice something about my last post....it was a matter of my own opinion...similar to you opinion tha tfable 2 rivals God

I mean, I just can't understand why there has been so much hate towards it lately. I mean if you ask me, 2008 is shaping up to be a great year for it with games like Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, and Banjo Kazooie 3. Out of all 3 systems, it has the lineup I'm looking forward to the most. Granted the PS3 has Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MGS 4, GT5, and LBP, and the Wii has good games coming too, it has as much staying power as the other 2 systems. I just don't understand what the uproar against it is about.sebs09

Blame the Lemmings, 'Patch the Bugs' and that strange Fable 2 fellow..... they give all lemmings a bad name.

[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps SeanBond

C'mon, "past its prime" when Gears 2 has been announced for the end of the year? When GTAIV is going to have huge DLC on the system? When games like Too Human, Fable 2, and Halo Wars are gaining hype with every month that passes? The idea that the 360 is the "Halo system" is something that only fanboys who don't have one believe; the original Xbox may have survived mostly on the strength of the first two games in that series, but Halo 3 was not the beginning of the 360, nor will it be the end of the console. If anything, people can now get over Halo, and move on to the many other games that deserve attention. Hell, with Mistwalker and even SquareEnix lending some RPG support to the 360 (not to mention the Tales series coming over), the 360 is getting better and the lineup is getting more and more diverse. Hardware failures have certainly hurt the 360 so far, but with even those slowing (and hopefully disappearing in the near future), there's no real reason to claim that the 360 is "past its prime".

If anything, the 360 is getting even better with age. Now all MS needs is blu-ray add-on. ;)

couldn't have said it better myself :D

I think the video gaming community is the worst of all communities, I don't know any other hobby in this world where the community spreads so much misinformation and flat out lies.

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[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

C'mon, "past its prime" when Gears 2 has been announced for the end of the year? When GTAIV is going to have huge DLC on the system? When games like Too Human, Fable 2, and Halo Wars are gaining hype with every month that passes? The idea that the 360 is the "Halo system" is something that only fanboys who don't have one believe; the original Xbox may have survived mostly on the strength of the first two games in that series, but Halo 3 was not the beginning of the 360, nor will it be the end of the console. If anything, people can now get over Halo, and move on to the many other games that deserve attention. Hell, with Mistwalker and even SquareEnix lending some RPG support to the 360 (not to mention the Tales series coming over), the 360 is getting better and the lineup is getting more and more diverse. Hardware failures have certainly hurt the 360 so far, but with even those slowing (and hopefully disappearing in the near future), there's no real reason to claim that the 360 is "past its prime".

If anything, the 360 is getting even better with age. Now all MS needs is blu-ray add-on. ;)

its definitly got a good line up of games coming...but i see much more potential in what the ps3 will be able to do....im not sure how much more the 360 is capable of

I don't understand what you mean by "ABLE TO DO" exactly what do you see that PS3 can do that the 360 can't? just curious, not trying to start a fight.:D

I used to hate MS in the windows 98 days, and ME was garbage, but then they released windows XP and it is very stable and well designed product. Vista isnt so bad either, i havent had a single issue with it and i've used it since alpha stages. (obvisouly it had issues until RC versions tho) but in terms of their console, I wasnt a huge fan of the first one... it was ok at best, like fun, but the controller was TERRIBLE! Then the 360 came out, and the changes on teh controller were subtle but made it feel like one of the most comfortable controlers available. The hardware has had issue for some, but myself I havent had a single issue. Their live service is much better this gen over last gen... they have great fun games and good exclusives. Personally, I couldnt be happoer with MS lately.

And the fact that Bill Gates donates 2/3rd of his own personal profit to charity is a huge thing because every xbox sold helps osmeone somewhere in some manner or another.

A. They are fanboys. They don't hate the 360, they love the PS3 or Wii.

B. RRoD is bullcrap.

C. They are attempting to destroy the system because they smell blood in the water.

ask the millions of poor Xbox360 owners who got the RROD once or more + other hardware problems why there is so much hate for the Xbox360 :)

i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps indian_playa

Yet the ps3 has more FPS coming this year than the 360. It has Killzone 2, Haze, Resistance 2. What does the 360 have?

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[QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"]its not a matter of giving up on a system......its noticing that uncharted felt more alive than alot of my 360 games......im looking forward to what killzone2 ,resistance 2 ,mgs4, and lbp bring to the table....they all look alot better than what ive come to expect from my 360(graphically of course)....but im just stating observation because im also stoked for quite a few 360 games also...not because they look like they push any real boundries...but bc they look funi_Pwn_TheVuhJay

Sorry, Mass Effect, Lost odyssey, Viva Pinata, Blue Dragon felt 1000x more alive than Drake static worlds and emtpy levels, or enemies that fell from the sky

Fable 2 will have more life and AI in it, than ALL PS3 excluisve games coming out the next 2 years too

well maybe you didn't notice something about my last post....it was a matter of my own opinion...similar to you opinion tha tfable 2 rivals God

No wonder the weather was so crappy last week. God was pissed that fable 2 was coming :P.

RROD: a huge issue and ive lost 2 xbox 360s thanks to it

PS3 killer 08 lineup: A lot of highly anticipated games coming and cows claim victory over the xbox 360s lineup{i rather have the ps3s}

Multliplats: Multliplats are starting to look and play better on the ps3

GTAIV: Exclusive dlc but rockstar has announced the ps3 will get there own form of dlc

Format war: Blueray destroys HDD in the format war

Microsoft: They are trying to buy bluery from sony and have a blueray equppied xbox 360{ may not happen}

Fanboys: Saolin323= Fable addict and blind fanboy giving lemmings bad rep

Fanboys: Mystichoarse= pc addict hates all consoles and states that we have lower standerds

Fanboys: Spider- jones= Wii addict= Gloats about the wii winning and makes useless fanboy topics stating how stupid he is

I cant think of anything else

Its good news and good news. MS going Blu is nothing but a publicity blow for them, and a confidence rattler for their would-be customers.

Its good news and good news. MS going Blu is nothing but a publicity blow for them, and a confidence rattler for their would-be customers.

roadkill88

MS is not going Blu.

I mean, I just can't understand why there has been so much hate towards it lately. I mean if you ask me, 2008 is shaping up to be a great year for it with games like Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, and Banjo Kazooie 3. Out of all 3 systems, it has the lineup I'm looking forward to the most. Granted the PS3 has Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MGS 4, GT5, and LBP, and the Wii has good games coming too, it has as much staying power as the other 2 systems. I just don't understand what the uproar against it is about.sebs09

360 is a very nice console (not hardware wise though but software).

Fable 2 would be good,i would love to see that on PS3,but still i dont mind thatm uch because i will have it on my pc soon or later.

The thing with this hate is the OVERHYPE of some lemmings the past months that bashed everything about PS3. Blu-ray,no games,high price and ofcourse the difference on sales. As this generation continues,we see Blu-ray won the war vs HD-DVD,PS3 starting have good games,price dropped and ofcourse,sales (even without ANY BIG hit game out yet) outselling X360 in europe,japan!!

So after a year of lemmings bashing cows for the reasons i gave you,this time seems its cows turn. Besides we are in SW. Fanboyism here is ... QQ!!! you know what i mean. Big one!!

I mean, I just can't understand why there has been so much hate towards it lately. I mean if you ask me, 2008 is shaping up to be a great year for it with games like Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, and Banjo Kazooie 3. Out of all 3 systems, it has the lineup I'm looking forward to the most. Granted the PS3 has Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MGS 4, GT5, and LBP, and the Wii has good games coming too, it has as much staying power as the other 2 systems. I just don't understand what the uproar against it is about.sebs09

i really dont know!

i love my 360

cos it fails 88% of the time.razu_gamer2

i should be a very lucky guy!

i bought my 360 at the first day and never saw a RRoD

^^I guess that works, then, since lemmings are the new cows.

You sound like me a year ago, when the PS3 looked bad to many forum-goers but I had one hooked up at home and was having a complete blast with it.

Don't let 'em get to ya, guy. Enjoy what you want.

Ugh, let's not get these started. Crying whenever your console catches hell has always been more of a cow thing...D0013ER

Right...cow thing.

it's really pretty simple, some people will always hate MS products.d3thm0nkey

hey, thats me!!!when i dont know I gonna take me more than just pc games to impress me because pc graphic cards are awsome.

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Ugh, let's not get these started. Crying whenever your console catches hell has always been more of a cow thing...Akumasoul

Right...cow thing.

haha ps2 is better than 360.N64> 360.

[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps sirk1264

Yet the ps3 has more FPS coming this year than the 360. It has Killzone 2, Haze, Resistance 2. What does the 360 have?

the 360 has 2 shooters, warhound and dead island. but your right, ps3 does have more shooters

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[QUOTE="indian_playa"]i guess because a) now that Halo3 is out, the 360 is past its prime and b) there is nothing innovative in the games coming. Granted LBP is the only innovative game coming for the PS3 and home will be a hit-or-miss for the PS3 owners, but at least it is something different from the hundreds of fps Pokeratxbox

Yet the ps3 has more FPS coming this year than the 360. It has Killzone 2, Haze, Resistance 2. What does the 360 have?

the 360 has 2 shooters, warhound and dead island. but your right, ps3 does have more shooters

Forgot about warhound. Whats dead island about.