Why Sony doesn't need to charge for Home:

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#1 Nomad0404
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=205467

It's because of advertising revenue.

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#2 Lto_thaG
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Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?
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#3 coakroach
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They need to add trophies to prevent the servers from becoming completely empty over time though
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Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?Lto_thaG

People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in Home, I don't think Sony needs to charge money for it, just not give the user anything for their little online Home or avatar, then they'll buy new stuff for their avatar and home.

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People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in HomeChaos_HL21
:| It's sad that I believe you.
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?Chaos_HL21

People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in Home, I don't think Sony needs to charge money for it, just not give the user anything for their little online Home or avatar, then they'll buy new stuff for their avatar and home.

I know,but who would still pay for the service of HOME.
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#7 feryl06
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They would never charge for HOME. The revenue they'll receive is from advertising, AND the little things they'll charge you for---i.e new furnitures, themes, etc.... And although everyone says it's optional---you know, and SONY knows people will buy it to get the most out of it and there lies their $$$. :)
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in HomeJandurin
:| It's sad that I believe you.

I agree.
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#9 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?Lto_thaG

People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in Home, I don't think Sony needs to charge money for it, just not give the user anything for their little online Home or avatar, then they'll buy new stuff for their avatar and home.

I know,but who would still pay for the service of HOME.

Probably not that much, Depens on how much it is. If it is $3-5 a month (or maybe $10 every other month) I could see people paying for it.

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#10 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in Home, I don't think Sony needs to charge money for it, just not give the user anything for their little online Home or avatar, then they'll buy new stuff for their avatar and home.

Chaos_HL21

I know,but who would still pay for the service of HOME.

Probably not that much, Depens on how much it is. If it is $3-5 a month (or maybe $10 every other month) I could see people paying for it.

10$ a month is a lot :P...120 dollars for a whole year.But it's just an estimate.
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#11 Nomad0404
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Actually I should change the topic as I really meant why they don't need to charge for the PSN basically Home and it's micropayment and advertising revenue is going to pay for it and then some I think.
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Because it's a boring and lacking online virtual world.
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Home is such an embarassment.
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#14 Chaos_HL21
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10$ a month is a lot :P...120 dollars for a whole year.But it's just an estimate.Lto_thaG

Every other month, which would be around $60 a year. It is a price I think people would be willing to pay. Charing $5 a month would be the same as $10 every other month. For $3 a month it would be $36 a month, would would probably be the most resonable.

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#15 -Master_St3ve-
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Because otherwise no one would use it.
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#16 kerpal_cz
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Probably not that much, Depens on how much it is. If it is $3-5 a month (or maybe $10 every other month) I could see people paying for it.

Chaos_HL21

Because?

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#17 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Probably not that much, Depens on how much it is. If it is $3-5 a month (or maybe $10 every other month) I could see people paying for it.

kerpal_cz

Because?

Because? I'm not sure why, I said I could see people paying for that much ($3-5 a month) for what Home gives. (I wouldn't) But I think that is the max people would pay.

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#18 donalbane
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Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?Lto_thaG
Apparently, a lot of people around here would. I just don't get it.
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#19 comstrikeiscool
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Is this like a console only thing where console players have never heard of free games? The PC rpg community thrives on free games run by advertisements. This has been around for years...
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]People are paying for online clothing, furniture, and homes in HomeJandurin
:| It's sad that I believe you.

360 users pay for themes and what not. Its not surprising at all, depends on how much people bought. I havent bought anything yet but i might buy a house or something just to support sony, its not a hard concept.
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#21 Eddie5vs1
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Here's a question.
Who would pay for HOME if it actually costed money?Lto_thaG
Exactly. It's free and IMO it still costs too much. I played it twice and both times I thought it was pointless and boring. I think that's the reason so much trolling goes on in home, at least it's something to do.
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#22 Eddie-Vedder
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In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

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#23 rmerri52
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Maby because its crap and no one would pay for it.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

It takes a few minutes for just a trailer to load, can you imagine how long it would take for an entire movie to be streamed? And why would I go through the hassel of home if I could just rent one off of PSN? You're right though they will continue to add content, but then the question is, how long will people continue to care about Home?
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The first time I entered Home my friend wanted to bowl so I went to the alley and it said that I couldn't because other people were bowling at the time...I haven't been back since.

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Hmm maybe more people would play it if they charged, since they'd be curious about home and since they paid the month subscription they'll feel more forced to play it and then maybe become interested?? instead of just downloading, opening it, saying this sucks and never opening it every again (which is what most people seemed to have done)
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Home is a disgrace to Sony if you ask me :cry:
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#28 Generalmojo
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Hmm maybe more people would play it if they charged, since they'd be curious about home and since they paid the month subscription they'll feel more forced to play it and then maybe become interested?? instead of just downloading, opening it, saying this sucks and never opening it every again (which is what most people seemed to have done)Brainkiller05

You got a point there m8,

if people pay for Home they will be sticking there heads into it more

making more use of its (less) features

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#29 Dreams-Visions
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=205467

It's because of advertising revenue.

Nomad0404
I don't understand. the article has nothing to do with your claim. wanna try this one again?
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In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

Eddie-Vedder
of course, the questions will remain: 1.) why would I want to watch a movie smaller than full screen or in 3rd person view, slightly behind my avatar person? that's what I was asking myself the first time I went to the theater. In fact, why would I use HOME for that at all when I can just go to the store and do the same thing? it really all feels like a new way for them to try to hawk products, masquerading as something to do. But I do have some ideas on how they could make home rock. For example, do a couple official FREE movie premieres on Home. for real movies. before they go to theaters. and host major game tournaments in a Home stadium. that's the next level.
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I already don't use it and its FREE.
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Home is epic failure.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

Dreams-Visions

1.) why would I want to watch a movie smaller than full screen or in 3rd person view, slightly behind my avatar person?

That was one of things that made me laugh about the whole thing...Why would you want to:

A. Look at trailers in HOME when your PS3 has a browser in it and you can watch it in fullscreen in a higher resolution?

B. Watch a movie in HOME when your PS3 is a friggin Blu-ray player and has the ability to download HD movies?

It's incredibly silly. Not to mention the knuckleheads doing the robot in front of you while you are trying to do this......

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#34 Lewisite
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Home is epic failure.Synthetic_NinJI

An epic failure that has sold $1 million in customizations?

Yeah totally...

Just wait until Square sets up a Final Fantasy room. Japan will explode and Home will run rampant with Cloud haircuts!

5 dollars a trim of course.;)

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

of course, the questions will remain: 1.) why would I want to watch a movie smaller than full screen or in 3rd person view, slightly behind my avatar person? that's what I was asking myself the first time I went to the theater. In fact, why would I use HOME for that at all when I can just go to the store and do the same thing? it really all feels like a new way for them to try to hawk products, masquerading as something to do. But I do have some ideas on how they could make home rock. For example, do a couple official FREE movie premieres on Home. for real movies. before they go to theaters. and host major game tournaments in a Home stadium. that's the next level.

My girlfriend LOVED walking around the movie theatre, she'd run up to every poster and examin it, she'd see publicity for some trailer and would go searching for the room to watch it, I kind of liked it not being full screen, it sort of helped the feeling of having gone to a movie theatre, but a full screen option would be nice. Those are good ideias btw :P Theres a ton of cool stuff that could be done in Home, I think we should try to give more constructive critisim and ideias rather then everyone just saying "lamezorz". A free movie every week would also be cool :P You'd see the theatre fill up every week on the day they premeire and stuff, it could be fun. Hopefully will see the big dogs "Activision Blizzard", "EA" and so on getting their creative minds working on something for Home, I'm pretty sure sony has already confirmed support from a lot of the big dev's and companies. In closing I think to many people walked into home with the mindset of a game, and forgetting it is in Beta, either that or it's just me thinking about it's potential.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

In response to Donaldbane. (Couldn't quote damn GS!)

It'll grow, they'll add a ton of content, imagine being able to watch movies through home "Streamed" just an example, Home will grow into a great service, just don't look at it like a game even tho it sort of is, it's a service first, that's in Beta, which means their fixing load times and adressing bugs, content will come...

of course, the questions will remain: 1.) why would I want to watch a movie smaller than full screen or in 3rd person view, slightly behind my avatar person? that's what I was asking myself the first time I went to the theater. In fact, why would I use HOME for that at all when I can just go to the store and do the same thing? it really all feels like a new way for them to try to hawk products, masquerading as something to do. But I do have some ideas on how they could make home rock. For example, do a couple official FREE movie premieres on Home. for real movies. before they go to theaters. and host major game tournaments in a Home stadium. that's the next level.

My girlfriend LOVED walking around the movie theatre, she'd run up to every poster and examin it, she'd see publicity for some trailer and would go searching for the room to watch it, I kind of liked it not being full screen, it sort of helped the feeling of having gone to a movie theatre, but a full screen option would be nice. Those are good ideias btw :P Theres a ton of cool stuff that could be done in Home, I think we should try to give more constructive critisim and ideias rather then everyone just saying "lamezorz". A free movie every week would also be cool :P You'd see the theatre fill up every week on the day they premeire and stuff, it could be fun. Hopefully will see the big dogs "Activision Blizzard", "EA" and so on getting their creative minds working on something for Home, I'm pretty sure sony has already confirmed support from a lot of the big dev's and companies. In closing I think to many people walked into home with the mindset of a game, and forgetting it is in Beta, either that or it's just me thinking about it's potential.

perhaps. but people have a right to be suspicious of whether Home will reach it's "potential" or not. It's been in Beta for damn near a year. and progress has been extremely slow. I can't say anything about Home has justified the length of development time or financial investment. we'll see what Home becomes.
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#37 Lewisite
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In closing I think to many people walked into home with the mindset of a game, and forgetting it is in Beta, either that or it's just me thinking about it's potential.Eddie-Vedder

I think it has a lot of potential.

As I said before just imagine the sells they would make if a Final Fantasy area was added. If $1 million has already been spent on customizations already in game just think of the possibilties for game related items.

Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil area please!

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] In closing I think to many people walked into home with the mindset of a game, and forgetting it is in Beta, either that or it's just me thinking about it's potential.Lewisite

I think it has a lot of potential.

As I said before just imagine the sells they would make if a Final Fantasy area was added. If $1 million has already been spent on customizations already in game just think of the possibilties for game related items.

Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil area please!

Not that I'll be spending much on microtransactions, but if Home lives up to what I think it can, imagine being able to buy a sackboy outfit! Profit! I'm more excited about the features we get tho, I wanna see leaderboard rooms in there, that would make the competitive side of PSN go up a bunch.
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#39 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Its free so why complain about it :?
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Its free so why complain about it :?Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Well,yea..I can agree to some extent,but is that an excuse to come out with software that isn't good?
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#41 Racer_XLR
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Lawl, they won't make much if they decide to charge for it.