Why Sony is losing "Exclusive games to 360"

The reason why sony is losing games that have been exclusive on the PS and PS2 is because back say 5 years ago, sony was out selling all the consoles by a landslide, it was a joke and a lot of sony's big exclusives were from Japan where the xbox did close to nothing and the gamecube was also not selling nearly as good as the PS2. The game companies would make a game for the PS2 like VF4, tekken 4, tekken 5, MGS 2, MGS 3, and Devil may cry, and they did not even waste their time trying to port them over because there was so little money to make selling on xbox and gamecube so they did not even waste their time porting the game over and just moved on the the next game. Now games like MGS2 and Onimusha proved that it was not worth porting a huge PS2 game to the xbox or gamecube when they introduced MGS2:substance and Genma Onimush for the xbox gaming system, and pretty much any1 who was interested in those games already had a PS2 and the games did not sell very well at all and MGS3 and all other onimushas stayed put on PS2. So you see, sony did not even open up their pocket books to their so called "exclusives", the companies were pretty much forced to stay exclusive because it wasent worth the time to make a big hit game multiplatform. Take VF4, VF3 was on the dreamcast, VF1and 2was on the Saturn so the first VF game on sony platform was VF4 on the PS2 and when you look at the numbers it would have been a waste of time and resources to put the effort into porting it to the xbox and gamecube cause it would sell very low. So when VF5 was announced for 360 they did not end any exclusive deal with sony, it was just a third pary game going multiplatform just like all the other games shifting form sony exclusive to multiplatform, they are all actuallythird party games just finally going muliplatform because right now the 360 is selling very good and is in the lead right now and at this point in time there is little money to be made keeping a third party game exclusive to playstation 3 unless sony throws gobs of cash at you which they wont because they said they wouldnt.

So really what people are doing is confusing First party with third party. A sony first party game would be Socom or Resistance, and a third party game would be MGS4, Grand Turismo 5, Final Fantasy 13, devil may cry 4, tekken 6, virtua fighter 5, resident evil 5, and grand theft auto 4. Now in the past theyve been exclusive but by choice and not because of sony giveing them money. So these games have had and still have the right to go on any console they want, and now they are because of the way the consoles are selling now.

This is pretty much all in a mess, but I was in a hurry and it is very hard for me to type out what is in my head because there is so much to explain but if i could talk and tell you in person it would take me like 5 mins and you would fully understand and agree with me and in the end it is not really a big deal and sony must think its not a big deal to because they could easily throw money at some of these third party developers and get their past and current big gun games exclusive to their new system.

I'm sorry, I'm much to lazy to read that, but I will say this, both consoles have lost exclusives to eachother.Bluestorm-Kalas

Ditto.

its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Yellow_Rose

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Not the point. They paid them to make sure people who wanted to play GTA bought a PS2.

No different than what MS is doing.

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Yellow_Rose

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Funny...Sony is also providing Namco Tech for Tekken 6 Arcade...I wonder at how much of a discount to keep it exculsive?

And how about all that Factor 5 Crap....Funny once your on Sony's Payroll...They seem to start singing.

Atleast we can say MS is investing wisely...Sony...Lets get a timed exculsive on UT3...Haze...Invest money into games comming out two years from now!!!

money is the name of the cause ,M$ is a software scavenger and they always use this tactics to knock-down competitorsdelol

Notice that studios can always turn down the money. So you can't just fault MS

It takes two to tango.

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Yellow_Rose

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Not the point. They paid them to make sure people who wanted to play GTA bought a PS2.

No different than what MS is doing.

But on Planet Bovine, it's always OK when Sony does it...

[QUOTE="delol"]money is the name of the cause ,M$ is a software scavenger and they always use this tactics to knock-down competitorsYellow_Rose

Notice that studios can always turn down the money. So you can't just fault MS

It takes two to tango.

[QUOTE="delol"]money is the name of the cause ,M$ is a software scavenger and they always use this tactics to knock-down competitorsYellow_Rose

Notice that studios can always turn down the money. So you can't just fault MS

It takes two to tango.

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Yellow_Rose

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Not the point. They paid them to make sure people who wanted to play GTA bought a PS2.

No different than what MS is doing.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Acenso

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Funny...Sony is also providing Namco Tech for Tekken 6 Arcade...I wonder at how much of a discount to keep it exculsive?

And how about all that Factor 5 Crap....Funny once your on Sony's Payroll...They seem to start singing.

Atleast we can say MS is investing wisely...Sony...Lets get a timed exculsive on UT3...Haze...Invest money into games comming out two years from now!!!

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Magical_Zebra

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

You should know that "common knowledge" doesnt exist on SW. Do you have a link? :shock:

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Not the point. They paid them to make sure people who wanted to play GTA bought a PS2.

No different than what MS is doing.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )Magical_Zebra

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

You should know that "common knowledge" doesnt exist on SW. Do you have a link? :shock:

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Not the point. They paid them to make sure people who wanted to play GTA bought a PS2.

No different than what MS is doing.

http://news.zdnet.com/2110-9595-527434.html

" Sony moved further into the video-game software business Monday with the purchase of game developers Red Zone Interactive and Naughty Dog " - circa 2001

[QUOTE="Acenso"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )darkmanure

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Funny...Sony is also providing Namco Tech for Tekken 6 Arcade...I wonder at how much of a discount to keep it exculsive?

And how about all that Factor 5 Crap....Funny once your on Sony's Payroll...They seem to start singing.

Atleast we can say MS is investing wisely...Sony...Lets get a timed exculsive on UT3...Haze...Invest money into games comming out two years from now!!!

Funny...Only Sony fanboys seem to be protraying it like that now. Almost every analyist seemed to know about it before it came out and made no big deal about...Probably because they did not pay them 50mil. They loaned them 50mil. MS will get back the 50 mil. Either the Content itself on 360 generates them money...or Rockstar pays the difference back. Either way MS loses nothing and gains a major selling point for the biggest consule franchise. I would say that is called a smart business decision. More reason now to buy the 360 version over PS3. And MS can earn more money on both fronts. If the content grosses pass 50mil for MS...All of that is pure profit^^ Not to mention royalities on the game selling. More copies sold on your system means more money.

Also lets look at what else MS is funding

Gears of Wars....Mass Effect...Infinite Discovery(TriAce RPG)...Mystwalker(Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssy, Cry On)

I would say MS is being very smart now about it all. Now if you want to talk about stupid pricing...I would agree MS is morons. 6months late for a price drop, Stupid elite model, Vastly overpriced Accessory, XBL including XBLA to play online...Milkage to the extreme. But in terms of software...How can I complain? MS is investing thier interests extremely well.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

You should know that "common knowledge" doesnt exist on SW. Do you have a link? :shock:

Translation: Im talking out the side of my neck in hopes that someone wont call my bluff. I dont have a link, nor can I produce one so I will tell other users to go find the info themselves. :shock:

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )HuusAsking

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

[QUOTE="Acenso"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )darkmanure

You do know Sony paid Rockstar a lot of money to keep GTA a Playstation exclusive until 2004 right?

Funny...Sony is also providing Namco Tech for Tekken 6 Arcade...I wonder at how much of a discount to keep it exculsive?

And how about all that Factor 5 Crap....Funny once your on Sony's Payroll...They seem to start singing.

Atleast we can say MS is investing wisely...Sony...Lets get a timed exculsive on UT3...Haze...Invest money into games comming out two years from now!!!

Did you actually read the criterias of that 50 million deal?

a link to say that companies go to sony without them being brought out????? look back in the early ps1 days namco,insomniac,square,naughtydog they jumped aboard even though the sony was new to the market and no im not giving a LINK its not my fault u cant see it for yourself and have no common sense go look it up for urself-MoOkS-

Sorry kid, it doesn't work like that. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. Debating 101.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

why do i need a link to proove anyting and hows it a bluff????? i never said i had a link, oh i no what this is over did i upset the wittle fwanboy with my comment about M$ having to paying to get studios onboard??? aawwwwwww poor wittle fwanboy-MoOkS-

When owned, resort to dribble talk. Let me give you some advice. Before you countinue to own yourself, you should know that Im a Manticore. You made the claim, I merely asked for a link to support YOUR claim. You obviously cant do that so "cow logic 101" tells me its time for the da da damage control dance! :shock:

The only exclusive which Sony has lost which I wish they didn't lose is GTAIV...

But having said that, I trust Rockstar and know they'll be able to handle making such a complex game on 2 consoles at the same time so I'm still extremely excited about it.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Point. ND was a friendly third party until Sony bought them in 2001, about the time the original Jak and Daxter was released.-MoOkS-

I love to see fanboys clammer about how M$ is paying devs to bring over games, and yet Sony just got those games out of the goodness of the devs hearts... :roll: gimme a break.

Bottom line.. The 360 came out first and had like a 7-8 million unit lead before the others even launched. So in turn the devs started to give more and more support to the 360 because THAT'S WHERE THE $$$$$ AT! Say what you want about "dev loyalty" and such but at the end of the day it's all about greenbacks.. M$ made the right move by launching first, and it's paying off.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives, while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

You have a link that these gamin studios just "flock" to Sony? :shock:

You should know that "common knowledge" doesnt exist on SW. Do you have a link? :shock:

Here, Ill help you. Dont speak on things which you have no knowledge of.

SONY Gaming Studios:

Naughty Dog

SCE Bend Studio

Zippy Interactive

Guerilla Games

^^ Oh yea. You definately may wanna click that link on Guerilla games and how Sony BOUGHT them to exclusively make games for ONLY SONY PRODUCTS.... You were saying? :shock:

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"] why do i need a link to proove anyting and hows it a bluff????? i never said i had a link, oh i no what this is over did i upset the wittle fwanboy with my comment about M$ having to paying to get studios onboard??? aawwwwwww poor wittle fwanboyMagical_Zebra

When owned, resort to dribble talk. Let me give you some advice. Before you countinue to own yourself, you should know that Im a Manticore. You made the claim, I merely asked for a link to support YOUR claim. You obviously cant do that so "cow logic 101" tells me its time for the da da damage control dance! :shock:

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"] why do i need a link to proove anyting and hows it a bluff????? i never said i had a link, oh i no what this is over did i upset the wittle fwanboy with my comment about M$ having to paying to get studios onboard??? aawwwwwww poor wittle fwanboy-MoOkS-

When owned, resort to dribble talk. Let me give you some advice. Before you countinue to own yourself, you should know that Im a Manticore. You made the claim, I merely asked for a link to support YOUR claim. You obviously cant do that so "cow logic 101" tells me its time for the da da damage control dance! :shock:

Look above, I pulled the info you so desperately wanted. Oh, SONY doesnt outright purchase game studios for exclusitivity. Check the above links for your Self Ownage..... :shock:

its loosing exclusives because microsoft studios has NO talent at all and has to paystudios money to keep there games as 360 exclusives,while sony doesnt do that the studios come to them ( will used to anyway )-MoOkS-

O really? :shock:

Guerilla Games- Killzone Series

"In 2004, Guerrilla Games signed an exclusive deal with Sony Computer Entertainment. Under the deal, Guerrilla will develop games exclusively for Sony's consoles"

Oops! :shock:

a link to say that companies go to sony without them being brought out????? look back in the early ps1 days namco,insomniac,square,naughtydog they jumped aboard even though the sony was new to the market and no im not giving a LINK its not my fault u cant see it for yourself and have no common sense go look it up for urself-MoOkS-

I looked it up for you. And sorry, you owned yourself. You were better off just providing a link or recanting your statement. :shock:

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"] why do i need a link to proove anyting and hows it a bluff????? i never said i had a link, oh i no what this is over did i upset the wittle fwanboy with my comment about M$ having to paying to get studios onboard??? aawwwwwww poor wittle fwanboyMagical_Zebra

When owned, resort to dribble talk. Let me give you some advice. Before you countinue to own yourself, you should know that Im a Manticore. You made the claim, I merely asked for a link to support YOUR claim. You obviously cant do that so "cow logic 101" tells me its time for the da da damage control dance! :shock:

Look above, I pulled the info you so desperately wanted. Oh, SONY doesnt outright purchase game studios for exclusitivity. Check the above links for your Self Ownage..... :shock:

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"] why do i need a link to proove anyting and hows it a bluff????? i never said i had a link, oh i no what this is over did i upset the wittle fwanboy with my comment about M$ having to paying to get studios onboard??? aawwwwwww poor wittle fwanboy-MoOkS-

When owned, resort to dribble talk. Let me give you some advice. Before you countinue to own yourself, you should know that Im a Manticore. You made the claim, I merely asked for a link to support YOUR claim. You obviously cant do that so "cow logic 101" tells me its time for the da da damage control dance! :shock:

Look above, I pulled the info you so desperately wanted. Oh, SONY doesnt outright purchase game studios for exclusitivity. Check the above links for your Self Ownage..... :shock:

Dude, stop while your behind. The post is above yours.....