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#1 lymb
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You might remember me from my previous thread: Why Sony 'Lost' E3. In the same style (please excuse my lack of creativity), I present Why Sony 'Lost' GamesCom.

Because people came expecting 2 announcements from Sony's conference.

The first announcement was the PS3 Slim. After getting it, they downplay it by saying, "we knew it was coming" (non-sequitur), "its ugly" (i remember people saying the same of the PS3) and also, "its going to have overheating problems (i see a 34% reduction in power consumption).

The second announcement was the PS3 price cut."It should have happened last year." I take this statement to mean that you would have bought it last year if it had the price drop then. Given that the PS3 has seen the following highly rated exclusives within the last year: LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, and inFamous, why would your desire to purchase a PS3 diminish? Its the hefty $100 price cut most of you have been asking for.

What about the immense update the PSN store is receiving? Videos and music stores are actually being extended to other regions, unlike the XBox 360's Netflix service. Not to mention comics. Saying you don't care about any of this doesn't exactly negate the fact that this is going to appeal to a lot of other users.

And the 3.00 firmware update, which brings PSN yet another step closer to XBL.

If you're wondering about the GT5 '09 announcement that people were expecting, look no further than TGS, September 24-27.

[10:19] People who preorder Gran Turismo 5 on PS3 between October 1-10 will receive a free download of Gran Turismo PSP.

That's a winning combo.

A $299 system that serves not only as a great multimedia hub, but also a games console offering a library of great exclusives and free online. The argument that the 360 has a bigger/better library of games doesn't sit well with me. Firstly, that does not mean I can't own a PS3 too. Secondly, if I had to choose between a 360 and a PS3, why buy a 360 over a PS3 now when I could have done it a year ago?

The truth: In the past year, apart from a bunch of multi-plats shared with the PS3, the XBox 360 has only the following to crow about: Netflix and Avatars. The 360 is stagnating.

On the other hand, the PS3 has: LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, inFamous, Playstation Home. Video and Music stores.

You can be a stubborn fanboy. Or you can be a gamer.

Once again, thanks for reading.

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#2 gago-gago
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Just wondering, what is GamesCom and will the other gaming companies like Nintendo and MS have a conference too?

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#3 Yandere
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What, are you saying why they lost or why they 'won'?
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What, are you saying why they lost or why they 'won'?Yandere
Yea, I'm confused. His post contradicts the title :|
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#5 Panther501
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I'm confused. How did they lose?

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#6 AdoringFan_
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Um..how did they lose now? :lol:

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#7 heretrix
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Oh cut it out. Sony did a fine job. I wish I could have seen it live though.

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#8 PSdual_wielder
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Just wondering, what is GamesCom and will the other gaming companies like Nintendo and MS have a conference too?

gago-gago

MS's conference is about to start FYI.

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#9 blank33
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Not sure what you're trying to say, but how did they lose? They gave what everyone who doesn't own a Ps3 wanted, a price cut.

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#10 Rza_rectah
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Meh, they lost imo because of no B/C.

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#11 lymb
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Instead of jumping to conclusions, how about reading my post and then understanding that the title was a hook, and my post an attempt to debunk why lemmings would say Sony did poorly at GamesCom, like they did for E3.

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#12 KingsMessenger
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[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Just wondering, what is GamesCom and will the other gaming companies like Nintendo and MS have a conference too?

PSdual_wielder

MS's conference is about to start FYI.

MS's conference is tommorrow at 10am(German time), 4am ET, 1am PT....
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Instead of jumping to conclusions, how about reading my post and then understanding that the title was a hook, and my post an attempt to debunk why lemmings would say Sony did poorly at GamesCom, like they did for E3.

lymb

Don't get angry because you made a misleading title and people fell for it. That's your fault.

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ps3 lost gamecon because of this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170844&type=product&id=1218043606347 eMachines - Desktop with AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 4050e 3GB 250 GB Harddrive. Our Price:$329.99 ps3 299$ LOLZ
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[QUOTE="lymb"]

Instead of jumping to conclusions, how about reading my post and then understanding that the title was a hook, and my post an attempt to debunk why lemmings would say Sony did poorly at GamesCom, like they did for E3.

heretrix

Don't get angry because you made a misleading title and people fell for it. That's your fault.

waaaait.

It's my fault that people don't read my post? That's news to me.

And it's also my fault that people don't see those quotation marks around the word Lost.

Like Why Sony 'Lost' GamesCom, and not Why Sony Lost GamesCom?

Who's getting defensive here?

I did the same in my previous thread and it went fine. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26908258

You could apologise for a misunderstanding, but you chose to push the blame onto me. Thats real sweet of you.

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Irony is a lost art. TC I enjoyed the post.

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ps3 lost gamecon because of this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170844&type=product&id=1218043606347 eMachines - Desktop with AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 4050e 3GB 250 GB Harddrive. Our Price:$329.99 ps3 299$ LOLZvideogamedead03
you lost because thats a emachine LMAO who the hell buys that computer LMAO.
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[QUOTE="videogamedead03"]ps3 lost gamecon because of this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170844&type=product&id=1218043606347 eMachines - Desktop with AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 4050e 3GB 250 GB Harddrive. Our Price:$329.99 ps3 299$ LOLZ

This pc ^^ will play games like quake live out of the box with that intergrated card or older games. hell i play older games more than new anyway l0lz. but you can add in a 50-60$ ati radeon 3850 512 mb and run crysis later LOLZ.
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#19 Zero_epyon
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You might remember me from my previous thread: Why Sony 'Lost' E3. In the same style (please excuse my lack of creativity), I present Why Sony 'Lost' GamesCom.

Because people came expecting 2 announcements from Sony's conference.

The first announcement was the PS3 Slim. After getting it, they downplay it by saying, "we knew it was coming" (non-sequitur), "its ugly" (i remember people saying the same of the PS3) and also, "its going to have overheating problems (i see a 34% reduction in power consumption).

The second announcement was the PS3 price cut."It should have happened last year." I take this statement to mean that you would have bought it last year if it had the price drop then. Given that the PS3 has seen the following highly rated exclusives within the last year: LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, and inFamous, why would your desire to purchase a PS3 diminish? Its the hefty $100 price cut most of you have been asking for.

What about the immense update the PSN store is receiving? Videos and music stores are actually being extended to other regions, unlike the XBox 360's Netflix service. Not to mention comics. Saying you don't care about any of this doesn't exactly negate the fact that this is going to appeal to a lot of other users.

And the 3.00 firmware update, which brings PSN yet anoter step closer to XBL.

If you're wondering about the GT5 '09 announcement that people were expecting, look no further than TGS, September 24-27.

[10:19] People who preorder Gran Turismo 5 on PS3 between October 1-10 will receive a free download of Gran Turismo PSP.

That's a winning combo.

A $299 system that serves not only as a great multimedia hub, but also a games console offering a library of great exclusives and free online. The argument that the 360 has a bigger/better library of games doesn't sit well with me. Firstly, that does not mean I can't own a PS3 too. Secondly, if I had to choose between a 360 and a PS3, why buy a 360 over a PS3 now when I could have done it a year ago?

The truth: In the past year, apart from a bunch of multi-plats shared with the PS3, the XBox 360 has only the following to crow about: Netflix and Avatars. The 360 is stagnating.

On the other hand, the PS3 has: LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, inFamous, Playstation Home. Video and Music stores.

You can be a stubborn fanboy. Or you can be a gamer.

Once again, thanks for reading.

lymb
He's addressing the small things that people will pick at and then somehow come to the conclusion that sony failed. That's why the word lost was in quotes.
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#20 dragonfly110
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I thought that sonys conference was pretty amazing.

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Wait... are you saying they lost or won? Your post contradicts your title.
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#22 darthogre
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hmmm, shouldn't you title the thread "why Sony won.....". Either way a price cut IMO wins anything when you have a $399 pricepoint for 2 years.
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#23 u8muhrice
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Sony did great. Why are we still bothered by the TC's post. He is obviously a mindf**k

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#24 Lionheart08
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TBH I didn't know Gamescon was that big of an event to win or lose.

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[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Just wondering, what is GamesCom and will the other gaming companies like Nintendo and MS have a conference too?

PSdual_wielder

MS's conference is about to start FYI.

cool hopefully they got some games

sony failed with no b/c in the 3.0 update, thats all i wanted

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#26 lymb
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@ dok_dx: i wasn't expecting these replies but yeah, they provided a good laugh. i'm glad you enjoyed my post. or theirs. =P

@Zero_epyon: thanks for trying, but my pointing out that Sony did well has only gone to show the ignorance of some cows here.

@Mythomniac, darthogre & Lionheart08: Sorry to disappoint, but I was here to point out why Sony didn't 'lose', not point out that Sony won GamesCom.

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#27 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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ppl look at the title the word lost is in braquets, seriously stop jumping to conclusion right away

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Lost is a good show.
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#29 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="lymb"]

Instead of jumping to conclusions, how about reading my post and then understanding that the title was a hook, and my post an attempt to debunk why lemmings would say Sony did poorly at GamesCom, like they did for E3.

lymb

Don't get angry because you made a misleading title and people fell for it. That's your fault.

waaaait.

It's my fault that people don't read my post? That's news to me.

And it's also my fault that people don't see those quotation marks around the word Lost.

Like Why Sony 'Lost' GamesCom, and not Why Sony Lost GamesCom?

Who's getting defensive here?

I did the same in my previous thread and it went fine. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26908258

You could apologise for a misunderstanding, but you chose to push the blame onto me. Thats real sweet of you.

I'm not getting defensive at all. YOU created a thread with a misleading title and got pissed because people didn't "read" it. Yes, it's your fault. Sure people who just post in threads without reading the OP are part of the blame, but you also share in that problem.

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#30 shikakrinks
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a new ps3 model and a price cut is pretty awesome to me. my only wish that they should have not change the font.

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#31 Liquid_DC
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The first announcement was the PS3 Slim. After getting it, they downplay it by saying.

lymb
do some people realize that u cant confirm a price drop months before ur actually going to do it because it would effect sells? what is up with some people these days
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#32 yoshi_64
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How does 3.00 XMB update bring it closer to XBL? There's no cross game invites, party chat functions, Netflix, or well.. I could go on. It just adds new functionality tot he GUI... :/ I mean the only thing that looks like a "worthy" bullet point would be... ... ... I dunno unless you like paying for premiums and having more ads on your design, well it's really not improving the system. It just looks fancy, which is more than enough to please half the SW populace here.
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#33 spinecaton
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Some people posing the problems are legit though, like myself :P

I just said I will be waiting for a couple months on the slim version because Sony's history with the slim models having overheating problems. I don't see anything wrong with that statement. I haven't seen other people stating overheating issues that you would be referring to.

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Sony had a great first day. There were expected and not so expected announcements. Now, time for GT5 :D (:?) I wonder if MS will announce the new Lionhead game that's been teased. I'm not really anticipating anything Nintendo related right now for GamesCom :(.
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ps3 lost gamecon because of this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170844&type=product&id=1218043606347 eMachines - Desktop with AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 4050e 3GB 250 GB Harddrive. Our Price:$329.99 ps3 299$ LOLZvideogamedead03
Lmao

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]Sony had a great first day. There were expected and not so expected announcements. Now, time for GT5 :D (:?) I wonder if MS will announce the new Lionhead game that's been teased. I'm not really anticipating anything Nintendo related right now for GamesCom :(.

Are they even at gamescon? I didn't think they were...
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[QUOTE="lymb"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="lymb"]

Instead of jumping to conclusions, how about reading my post and then understanding that the title was a hook, and my post an attempt to debunk why lemmings would say Sony did poorly at GamesCom, like they did for E3.

Don't get angry because you made a misleading title and people fell for it. That's your fault.

waaaait.

It's my fault that people don't read my post? That's news to me.

And it's also my fault that people don't see those quotation marks around the word Lost.

Like Why Sony 'Lost' GamesCom, and not Why Sony Lost GamesCom?

Who's getting defensive here?

I did the same in my previous thread and it went fine. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26908258

You could apologise for a misunderstanding, but you chose to push the blame onto me. Thats real sweet of you.

We read your post it does not make sense with your title.
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Sarcasm does not work well over the internet.
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#39 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]Sony had a great first day. There were expected and not so expected announcements. Now, time for GT5 :D (:?) I wonder if MS will announce the new Lionhead game that's been teased. I'm not really anticipating anything Nintendo related right now for GamesCom :(.

Are they even at gamescon? I didn't think they were...

I'm assuming Nintendo might have a presence, I guess not. I know MS is though.
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#40 Episode_Eve
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Sarcasm does not work well over the internet.chathuranga
Apparently not :?.
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#41 XturnalS
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[QUOTE="chathuranga"]Sarcasm does not work well over the internet.Episode_Eve
Apparently not :?.

its sad, I think it speaks more about the users here than about TC. I mean seriously its not that hard to "get" cwhatIdidthar?

And I completely agree with OP.