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#1 jaz350z
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This.This, right here. This is why gaming journalists will never get any respect.

Apparently, only loud-mouthed fanboys get any sort of attention in the realm of so-called video game journalism. Typically, the world of gaming news continues forward in much the same way it always has; we scan around, field the press releases in our inbox, try to find interesting scoops online, etc, etc, etc. But the recent trend, which apparently began with a new rash of PS3 hate-fueledentirely by jealousy- has assaulted the Internet, and we're already feeling the negative effects. You know, when narrow-minded idiots make certain inane proclamations in an ill-advised attempt to present their opinion as fact, everyone suffers. Now, they're actually trying to prove a point with completely irrelevant statistics!

Okay, here's a concept that everyone -everyone- needs to comprehend and accept. The Xbox 360 launched one year before the PlayStation 3. It has a larger user base. Depending on the source you use, Sony has sold between 18 and 20 million PS3s and Microsoft has sold between 26 and 28 million 360s. Now, we won't bother to show theobviousclosing of the gap in the past two years; we'd rather stick to the point: when there are 8-10 millionmoreof one particular console out there, the sales numbers for the corresponding software will reflect that gap. Therefore, this isn't anything like comparing the software sales between systems with equal user bases, and that instantly alters the numbers. This is fact #1. Here's fact #2: evidently, theonly argument the Xbox loyalists have left revolves around sales numbers. And they're desperately trying to cling to it like a drowning fanboy clings to the life raft that's moments away from heading over the waterfall (God, if only).

Obviously, nothing else matters. No other aspect of the system comes into play. Blu-Ray doesn't matter. A free PlayStation Network doesn't matter. PlayStation Home doesn't matter. Faaaar better reliability doesn't matter. Hell, even the games don't matter. Has anyone been able to locate an equally retarded anti-PS3, pro-360 article that evenmentionsgames? Hell, and here I was thinking that this industry is all about the damngames. According to just about every last major publication on earth, the best games of 2008 were MGS4, GTAIV,Gears of War 2,LittleBigPlanet,Left 4 Dead,Fallout 3,Resistance 2,Fable II,Valkyria Chronicles,Dead Space, andDevil May Cry 4. Sure, it's subjective, but I doubt most normal, unbiased gamers will disagree with that list. I see four PS3 exclusives, three 360 exclusives, and a bunch of multiplats;noneof which were superior on the 360. And looking into 2009...yeah, we all know the PS3 has a gigantic advantage. We won't list off the games again. But let's just say that mostallthe games everyone is talking about right now -Killzone 2, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5- are PS3 exclusives, and the others are multiplats. Are thereany360 exclusives that are in the impending spotlight? Seriously...any at all besides Halo 3 ODST?

But hey, why should that matter to video game journalists? Why bother to use statistics that will equal out the argument? No, let's just include those that support our end of the argument, because the truth of the matter is, we're either high school or college kids pretending to be "journalists" but failing to cover up the obvious bias. Yeah, MGS4 has been "pushed" into the background. Sure, why even bother to entertain the notion that it outstrips anything on the 360? I'm not saying itdoes, but I guess sales are all that matter. Yeah,Prologuewas just a demo so it must've sucked and GT5 might not come out until 2010...which immediately means it's not ever coming out, so who cares. LBP didn't perform so well in sales...despite selling millions of copies so far (and despite a typically terrible Sony advertising campaign) and scoring higher on average than every last 360 game in 2008 with the exception of GoW2. Blu-Ray? Yeah, who needs high-def movies and games? The Network is free but we'd ratherpayfor what amounts to the same service these days.

Reliability? Bah. Just because everyone you talk to says they're on their 3rd 360 doesn't mean anything! Hey, just as a final question; something to chew on here: that 8-10 million gap in user base...how many of those sold 360s are second, third, and fourth purchases from the same consumer because their previous console crapped out? I know warranties and the like will take care of some of them, but they can'tpossiblytake care ofallof them. Anyway, I apologize for the rant, but I'm getting sick and tired of the irresponsible, horrendously biased, and completely unprofessional "articles" that we're seeing online.

This is the reason why I'm oftentimes embarrassed to say I'm a gamer.

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#2 bronxxbombers
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 We dont need more of these threads.
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#3 jakehouston88
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Blu-Ray doesn't matter. A free PlayStation Network doesn't matter. PlayStation Home doesn't matter. Faaaar better reliability doesn't matter. Hell, even the games don't matter.

jaz350z

This. This, right here. This is why you will never get any respect.

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#4 dragonfly110
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1. Ive never even heard of that site you posted about.

2. if the gap is supposedly "closing" then how come the 360 continues to outsell the PS3 every month in the NPD with very few exceptions?

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#5 OPuniverse
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can some1 sum up what he just said. Wall of text blinded me.
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#6 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

Blu-Ray doesn't matter. A free PlayStation Network doesn't matter. PlayStation Home doesn't matter. Faaaar better reliability doesn't matter. Hell, even the games don't matter.

jakehouston88

This. This, right here. This is why you will never get any respect.

hey good job jake I honestly thought you were going to side with this guy. (provided I havent finished reading his post yet I just read up until the sections my comment talk about)

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#7 bronxxbombers
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can some1 sum up what he just said. Wall of text blinded me.OPuniverse
Same here. I just facepalmed. I'm not reading that poorly edited and grammaticly incorrect novel of PS3 fanboyism.
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#8 bigblunt537
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Why opinions are "nice"

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#9 dragonfly110
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-Killzone 2, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5

out of those 3 games only 1 of them came out this year, the second is comfirmed for 2010 and the third hasnt even been given a release date yet.

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#10 jaz350z
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If you read the whole article it would make sense why don't you read the whole thing and then comment

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#11 treedoor
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So you're saying that lemmings, and game journalists only use sales as the one advantage the 360 has over the PS3?

Guess all I can do is facepalm.

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#12 rybe1025
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Well it would not be NPD day without some angry fanboyish threads.
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#13 bronxxbombers
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If you read the whole article it would make sense why don't you read the whole thing and then comment

jaz350z
Cause its to long, and you're gammer & punctation are god awfull. Its easier to just facepalm, and then watch people flame you.
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#14 dragonfly110
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If you read the whole article it would make sense why don't you read the whole thing and then comment

jaz350z

I read the whole thing now, and quite frankly it still seems fairly biased. For one, you dont know whether those sales of 360s are all rebuys and even if they are the point is that they are still sales, at the end of the day the 360 has more sales then the PS3. I personally think that RROD is stupid but it is almost nonexistant, and even if you do get it Microsoft replaces it for free (its a little thing called a warranty.)

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#15 jaz350z
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I think it's funny because this IS a biased article, but it's not a fanboyishly biased article and everyone is treating it as such.

I loved my 360 but the PS3 is just better.

I didn't take the time to edit the full article, sorry.

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#16 dragonfly110
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I think it's funny because this IS a biased article, but it's not a fanboyishly biased article and everyone is treating it as such.

I loved my 360 but the PS3 is just better.

I didn't take the time to edit the full article, sorry.

jaz350z

thats fine, thats your opinion and Ill accept it everyones entitled to there opinions, Im not a blind fanboy like you may think. I just feel that a lot in this post is quite frankly a bit ridiculously biased.

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#17 jaz350z
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

I think it's funny because this IS a biased article, but it's not a fanboyishly biased article and everyone is treating it as such.

I loved my 360 but the PS3 is just better.

I didn't take the time to edit the full article, sorry.

dragonfly110

thats fine, thats your opinion and Ill accept it everyones entitled to there opinions, Im not a blind fanboy like you may think. I just feel that a lot in this post is quite frankly a bit ridiculously biased.

can you tell me what parts so I can fix it/write a better article next time?

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#18 pyromaniac223
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Hah, that's funny. I also clicked on that PSXtreme article that was linked in there, and I had a quick question: Does anyone take them seriously for anything ever?
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#19 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

I think it's funny because this IS a biased article, but it's not a fanboyishly biased article and everyone is treating it as such.

I loved my 360 but the PS3 is just better.

I didn't take the time to edit the full article, sorry.

jaz350z

thats fine, thats your opinion and Ill accept it everyones entitled to there opinions, Im not a blind fanboy like you may think. I just feel that a lot in this post is quite frankly a bit ridiculously biased.

can you tell me what parts so I can fix it/write a better article next time?

well the main part Id say is when you did the 08 games, you missed out on quite a few. I think gamespot has a list if youd like to see it, but youll have to ask Casey IM not sure where its kept.

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#21 oscar_mateo
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Look at this. Thats why the ps3 is better.

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#22 jaz350z
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

thats fine, thats your opinion and Ill accept it everyones entitled to there opinions, Im not a blind fanboy like you may think. I just feel that a lot in this post is quite frankly a bit ridiculously biased.

dragonfly110

can you tell me what parts so I can fix it/write a better article next time?

well the main part Id say is when you did the 08 games, you missed out on quite a few. I think gamespot has a list if youd like to see it, but youll have to ask Casey IM not sure where its kept.

thanks I'll look into that

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#23 jaz350z
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

Blu-Ray doesn't matter. A free PlayStation Network doesn't matter. PlayStation Home doesn't matter. Faaaar better reliability doesn't matter. Hell, even the games don't matter.

xDimMaK

This. This, right here. This is why you will never get any respect.

Reading comprehension FAIL!

more like sarcasm comprehension fail

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#24 dragonfly110
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no prob, I hope to see another thread from you in the future. I like when people put time into there arguments.

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#25 Stinger78
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Here's a reason why neither is "better": both have exclusive games worth playing.

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#26 menserman
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360 can do everything. i wouldnt be suprised if they did a firmware update andit allowed the 360 to play blue ray movies lol

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#27 jaz350z
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no prob, I hope to see another thread from you in the future. I like when people put time into there arguments.

dragonfly110

thanks

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#28 PSdual_wielder
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I took a skim at that article, and I'm just...surprised at how it deliberately MENTIONED that it ignores the problems of the 360 and that the fault of the PS3 is far worse...

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Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

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#30 navyguy21
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One of the best quotes ever, fits this thead perfectly (thanks SolidTy :P

----------------------- HELP, I'M GETTing buried in this wall of text!...*Can't breath* ----------------------- SolidTy

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#31 bronxxbombers
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Look at this. Thats why the ps3 is better.

oscar_mateo
One more time guys!  If you truely had the better system, you woudnt have to pur other systems down, to make yours feel better. Thats system bullying.
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#32 jaz350z
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I took a skim at that article, and I'm just...surprised at how it deliberately MENTIONED that it ignores the problems of the 360 and that the fault of the PS3 is far worse...

PSdual_wielder

I don't understand what you mean...

Sorry?

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#33 mrgreen108
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You guys do realize that Wii sold nearly (maybe even more, not sure on exact worldwide sales) as much as Xbox 360 and PS3 combined don't you. This after being released 12 months after the Xbox 360. So either way you are backing a losing horse. But on system wars ignorance is bliss to the extremist fanboys.
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#34 jaz350z
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Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

CajunShooter

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

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#35 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

Blu-Ray doesn't matter. A free PlayStation Network doesn't matter. PlayStation Home doesn't matter. Faaaar better reliability doesn't matter. Hell, even the games don't matter.

This. This, right here. This is why you will never get any respect.

it was saracsm...
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#36 jaz350z
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You guys do realize that Wii sold nearly (maybe even more, not sure on exact worldwide sales) as much as Xbox 360 and PS3 combined don't you. This after being released 12 months after the Xbox 360. So either way you are backing a losing horse. But on system wars ignorance is bliss to the extremist fanboys.mrgreen108

Don't even get me started on the Wii,

if you even read the article you would realize sales don't make the console any better. It's about statistics, games, and features

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#37 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

jaz350z

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

So legitimacy = Zero...

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#38 bronxxbombers
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

No ones attacking the PS3. Xbox owners are content with their 360s. PS3 owners have to attack 360 owners, to make themselves feel better.
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finally someone with a brain!....good read : )
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#40 jaz350z
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

CajunShooter

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

So legitimacy = Zero...

That doesn't even make sense...

I like how you try to make me seem hypocritical but your arguments don't even mean something

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#41 jaz350z
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finally someone with a brain!....good read : ) winner-ps3

thank you

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#42 Kashiwaba
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Most of what you said is true but this is SWs where logic doasnt matter dont expect any good reply here.

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#43 jaz350z
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Most of what you said is true but this is SWs where logic doasnt matter dont expect any good reply here.

Kashiwaba
lol I realize that but I might as well pump some logic into people's heads
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

jaz350z

So legitimacy = Zero...

That doesn't even make sense...

I like how you try to make me seem hypocritical but your arguments don't even mean something

Using the same logic as "lemmings" doesn't make you any more "right" than they are. If you are gonna say Lemmings don't say anything about games and then name a bunch of PS3 exclusives and then say 360 only has Halo ODST then you are just as wrong as those you are complaining about.
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#46 jaz350z
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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"] So legitimacy = Zero...

CajunShooter

That doesn't even make sense...

I like how you try to make me seem hypocritical but your arguments don't even mean something

Using the same logic as "lemmings" doesn't make you any more "right" than they are. If you are gonna say Lemmings don't say anything about games and then name a bunch of PS3 exclusives and then say 360 only has Halo ODST then you are just as wrong as those you are complaining about.

can you name any other big-name exclusives coming out this year? besides mass effect 2 if that even come's out this year (I forgot that one) also I already apologized for forgetting some games
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#47 Threebabycows
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When you say Xbox fans are desperate and holding on to sales, that is not true... We have the same amount of AAAe (PDZ,GEOW2,H3,GRAW,FM2), We have 40 more AAes, and alot more Aes. If you want a link ask someone else for the charts, I am too lazy to find one right now lol.. Then you include the ones that you CAN'T play with the PS3 and that makes the 360 line-up destroy the PS3s. As for this year we have ODST and Forza 3 exclusives and games you CAN'T play on the PS3, are L4D2 and splinter cell for this holiday season.

Edit: lol I forgot ME2.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="jaz350z"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Let me get this straight. He makes a big point saying that journalist that are pro 360 leave out important information when trying to compare the two systems to make the 360 look better, yet in every comparison in the article he leaves out information to make the PS3 look better.

Could you be anymore hypocritical?

I'm simply countering the attack against the PS3

No ones attacking the PS3. Xbox owners are content with their 360s. PS3 owners have to attack 360 owners, to make themselves feel better.

Puh-lease, neither side is innocent. Everyone has their share of bashing, period.
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#49 jaz350z
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When you say Xbox fans are desperate and holding on to sales, that is not true... We have the same amount of AAAe (PDZ,GEOW2,H3,GRAW,FM2), We have 40 more AAes, and alot more Aes. If you want a link ask someone else for the charts, I am too lazy to find one right now lol.. Then you include the ones that you CAN'T play with the PS3 and that makes the 360 line-up destroy the PS3s. As for this year we have ODST and Forza 3 exclusives and games you CAN'T play on the PS3, are L4D2 and splinter cell for this holiday season.

Edit: lol I forgot ME2.

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for the THIRD time I already apologized for missing some games I couldn't find a decent list.

by the way charts athttp://www.vgchartz.com/

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#50 bronxxbombers
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="jaz350z"]

That doesn't even make sense...

I like how you try to make me seem hypocritical but your arguments don't even mean something

jaz350z

Using the same logic as "lemmings" doesn't make you any more "right" than they are. If you are gonna say Lemmings don't say anything about games and then name a bunch of PS3 exclusives and then say 360 only has Halo ODST then you are just as wrong as those you are complaining about.

can you name any other big-name exclusives coming out this year? besides mass effect 2 if that even come's out this year (I forgot that one) also I already apologized for forgetting some games

Halo 3 ODST, Forza 3. Alan wake, L4D2, Splinter cell conviction. Not to mention DLC.