Why the 360 will lose this war, 3rd place

The 360 has a lot of support from developers, good games coming, now here are my reasons why it will still end up the 3rd system.

Let's look at gamers attitude towards the 360:-

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

As you can see, M$ just signed the 360 death warrant by not seriously dealing with the problem and/or not properly communicating with the customers aboutthis matter. The reliability issue really hurt the image of the 360, and will hold sales the most.

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

after posting your ridiculous opinions as facts are you feeling better?

btw im on my 346,567th xbox 360:roll:

"Losing" is subjective. What do you mean by losing? Not getting enough sales or market share?batistafan99

i dont know if theres a third place. Nintendo already said their not competing with 360/ps3. I personally believe the wii is on the ps2 level.

only NA is helping xbox360 being alive.

ps3 and wii are going to have world wide support.

No way! I'm on my 346,568th console, we should talk sometime.Captain_Waffles

No way! I'm on my 346,568th console, we should talk sometime.Captain_Waffles

The 360 has a lot of support from developers, good games coming, now here are my reasons why it will still end up the 3rd system.

Let's look at gamers attitude towards the 360:-

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

As you can see, M$ just signed the 360 death warrant by not seriously dealing with the problem and/or not properly communicating with the customers aboutthis matter. The reliability issue really hurt the image of the 360, and will hold sales the most.

hamidious

1) No different than people who paid $600 for a Blu-Ray player with controller ports. The fanboys will be fanboys.

2) Depends on why they bought a 360. Most people don't buy a console just for the console but for the games it play.

3) Because the 360 won't ever evolve. No way whatsoever :roll:

4) These people hate gaming and aren't real gamers anyway.

5) Which are becoming fewer and fewer.

6) And if these people whine about $4.15/month they probably don't game much anyway.

7) Fanboys will be fanboys

only NA is helping xbox360 being alive.

ps3 and wii are going to have world wide support.

GermanShepard06

NA video game sales, are way above the worlds

11 consoles? Be real. What about those gamers who bought the 360 at launch, have had no problems with it, and will eventually get all 3. The 360 has a much earlier start and is currently dominating in quantity and quality of games. There is no way that will let up. The 360 is becoming the console for the masses. Fignewton50

That was a reference about the 1UP.com story about the lemming who went through 11 360's and waiting for his 12th :).

only NA is helping xbox360 being alive.

ps3 and wii are going to have world wide support.

GermanShepard06

360 outselling PS3 in EU as well according to vgcharts.

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]11 consoles? Be real. What about those gamers who bought the 360 at launch, have had no problems with it, and will eventually get all 3. The 360 has a much earlier start and is currently dominating in quantity and quality of games. There is no way that will let up. The 360 is becoming the console for the masses. hamidious

That was a reference about the 1UP.com story about the lemming who went through 11 360's and waiting for his 12th :).

Sucks to be him. My launch 360 still runs like butter.

No way! I'm on my 346,568th console, we should talk sometime.Captain_Waffles

darn i feel bad for you. i thought i had it bad with my 346,567th xbox 360.

waaa? i in the factor dont have a xbox live account yet do too poor computer and up grade of dail up too high speed$$ problems lol i will still stay loyal too only xbox, even if i get a[ pswii] wich an getting my wii some time soon, but i think your resons are kinda crazy..IvGot5onit

I think your spelling is kinda crazy. Please take a breath instead of typing jibberish.

[QUOTE="Captain_Waffles"]No way! I'm on my 346,568th console, we should talk sometime.istreakforfood

I feel bad for the guy that had his PS3 kill him, damn faulty ejection thing.

darn i feel bad for you. i thought i had it bad with my 346,567th xbox 360.

I feel bad for the guy that had his PS3 kill him, damn faulty ejection thing.

[QUOTE="IvGot5onit"]waaa? i in the factor dont have a xbox live account yet do too poor computer and up grade of dail up too high speed$$ problems lol i will still stay loyal too only xbox, even if i get a[ pswii] wich an getting my wii some time soon, but i think your resons are kinda crazy..Fignewton50

I think your spelling is kinda crazy. Please take a breath instead of typing jibberish.

i don't think 360 will be 3rd place.

it might be first or 2nd with the PS3.

yeah but the 360 has been out an entire year longer than the other two consoles!

its gonna have more games for sure!

i was hoping this would actually have put up some valid point but unfortunately its just saying ms fans suck the 360 always breaks down and no one wants to pay for online, thats all you were saying bro, but truthfully MS could win the console war, depending on how the popularity of the wii goes and what happens with the demand for the ps3, i can talk freely about all three since i own all three myself, the 360's lead over the other two consoles has been hit hard and this holiday season there is a chance that 360 might become second to the wii, the ps3 has more potential then the other two put together, not saying that its the greatest but the ps3 as it stands right now just isnt cutting it when it comes to exclusives and quality games, i play the wii way more just because i get more fun out of it, i do usually play all three in a day but it has been a few days since i fired up the ol 360 (its my second one(my first one was one of those refurbished ones)) each console has its advantages and disadvantages, for the 360 its the head start it got, for the ps3 its potential, and for the wii of course inovation, and then there are the disadvantages which i dont really feel like listing because weve all heard them like 28570234769834760286 times, but really i cant see the wii winning the war, inovation will only go so far, so as it stands i give wii a 20% chance of winning .the 360 (not because im a fan boy but just because of its headstart) 45% chance of winning and the ps3 a 35% chance, those are just some guesses, nothing educated about them,

I don't think you realise how many people dont *care* what the systems manufacturer's name is. Most people, to my knowledge, actually care about the games. Even if they have to rebuy one because they ran out of their 1 year warranty AND it broke, then im sure they wouldn't switch if they were looking forward to certain games or liked the current games enough. Im on my 6th, count them 6 360's, and I am still satisfied, because while ive had some really bad hardware issues, the games are just worth it.

Does ps3 or wii have:

DOA?

Dead Rising?

Phantasy Star?

Gears of War?

Crackdown?

Etc. Its just a great system. PERIOD...

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

cwalters

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

[QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

101gamespot

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

[QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

101gamespot

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

My launch 360 works just fine.

Even if 360 ends up in 3rd place for this console generation no one can deny that Microsoft really lit a flame under its competition. They raised the bar and forced everyone (by everyone I mean Sony) to step up their game.Corvin

You make a good point

[QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

falconclan

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

How so?

[QUOTE="falconclan"]

You would think people would care more, wouldn't you? But its just not the case. After the elite came out how many now elite owners were originally premium or core owners? Probably the bulk of them. I was pissed about the elite, i felt jaded my MS because they completely screwed over ALL early adopters, but it seems everyone else didn't care.

Yellow_Rose

How so?

Alright lets see here, I bought a 360, its broken 6 times. I got an okay deal for the $400 premium which came with a "20"gb hard drive and it seemed great at the time, but when elite was announced how did you not feel sick. Late adopters, NOT MS's most needed fanbase were given a great deal. MS even over charged for the new hard drive, which i suppose you could call a good deal next to the 20 gb hard drive being like $100.

Did we get any special offers? Any coupons or something so we wouldn't have to pay out the ass to get a new hard drive? No, im pretty sure i could sell my 360 on ebay now and save buy buying the entire elite instead of bothering buying a new hard drive.

[QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

Yellow_Rose

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

My launch 360 works just fine.

First of all i dont care about your launch 360

2nd how do i know you are not lying to me

3rd whats to stop that Launch 360 from breaking tomoz or the day after

4th Your Sig is **** (Al B) RULES

The breaking issue would be legit if it weren't for one year warrenties. Most people that have the issue will get the console replaced for free. You would seriously just drop $600 bucks if you 360 craps out in warrenty? Even out of warrenty the cost is $140 along with another one year warrenty, if you complain enough you probably get an extra 2 years added to that for free.

I think the situation could end up worse for people in a couple years if PS3s start crapping out and have to buy a whole new ones rather then paying a small fee for replacement.

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

hamidious

Stupid post. No logic in it at all .... did you ever go to school or do you think "gamespot" is education?

Points 1-3)Only few %of MS consoles break ... if all those people just gave up ... Microsoft wouldnt have lost much customers.

Point 4) People who hate(Insert company Name)and the(Insert console) brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about(insert console name)games.

6) People who don't want to pay for (insert "bluray" or"controller gimmick")no matter what and will never get a (insert console name).

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a (Insert "console"), ....

Your points are all plain stupid and every "fanboy" could turn them the way he wanted. Theyr arent specific to xbox 360. You should get some education or logic skills at first my good boy. That way you will find it hard to pass most companie's pre-employement testing. You wont try to tell people about stupid things liek that then, when you cant even afford a console anymore.

Best wishes and good luck. (Youll need it)

[QUOTE="hamidious"]

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

klausklaus

Stupid post. No logic in it at all .... did you ever go to school or do you think "gamespot" is education?

Points 1-3)Only few %of MS consoles break ... if all those people just gave up ... Microsoft wouldnt have lost much customers.

Point 4) People who hate(Insert company Name)and the(Insert console) brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about(insert console name)games.

6) People who don't want to pay for (insert "bluray" or"controller gimmick")no matter what and will never get a (insert console name).

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a (Insert "console"), ....

Your points are all plain stupid and every "fanboy" could turn them the way he wanted. Theyr arent specific to xbox 360. You should get some education or logic skills at first my good boy. That way you will find it hard to pass most companie's pre-employement testing. You wont try to tell people about stupid things liek that then, when you cant even afford a console anymore.

Best wishes and good luck. (Youll need it)

I mostly agree with the rest. I like wii from time to time though, but its a secondary system, completely uneeded really, but its a little bit of extra fun.

[QUOTE="hamidious"]

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

klausklaus

Stupid post. No logic in it at all .... did you ever go to school or do you think "gamespot" is education?

Points 1-3)Only few %of MS consoles break ... if all those people just gave up ... Microsoft wouldnt have lost much customers.

Point 4) People who hate(Insert company Name)and the(Insert console) brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about(insert console name)games.

6) People who don't want to pay for (insert "bluray" or"controller gimmick")no matter what and will never get a (insert console name).

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a (Insert "console"), ....

Your points are all plain stupid and every "fanboy" could turn them the way he wanted. Theyr arent specific to xbox 360. You should get some education or logic skills at first my good boy. That way you will find it hard to pass most companie's pre-employement testing. You wont try to tell people about stupid things liek that then, when you cant even afford a console anymore.

Best wishes and good luck. (Youll need it)

This Post fails on a grand scale

PS your Fanboy is showing

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

You would think people would care more, wouldn't you? But its just not the case. After the elite came out how many now elite owners were originally premium or core owners? Probably the bulk of them. I was pissed about the elite, i felt jaded my MS because they completely screwed over ALL early adopters, but it seems everyone else didn't care.

falconclan

How so?

Alright lets see here, I bought a 360, its broken 6 times. I got an okay deal for the $400 premium which came with a "20"gb hard drive and it seemed great at the time, but when elite was announced how did you not feel sick. Late adopters, NOT MS's most needed fanbase were given a great deal. MS even over charged for the new hard drive, which i suppose you could call a good deal next to the 20 gb hard drive being like $100.

Did we get any special offers? Any coupons or something so we wouldn't have to pay out the ass to get a new hard drive? No, im pretty sure i could sell my 360 on ebay now and save buy buying the entire elite instead of bothering buying a new hard drive.

I don't know about your 360, but my 360 didn't suddenly stop working when the Elite launched.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

101gamespot

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

My launch 360 works just fine.

First of all i dont care about your launch 360

2nd how do i know you are not lying to me

3rd whats to stop that Launch 360 from breaking tomoz or the day after

4th Your Sig is **** (Al B) RULES

1) It proves not all 360 break.

2) You don't. But I have no reason to lie.

3) What's to stop any piece of equipment from breaking down tomorrow or the day after

4) Thanx

[QUOTE="klausklaus"][QUOTE="hamidious"]

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

101gamespot

Stupid post. No logic in it at all .... did you ever go to school or do you think "gamespot" is education?

Points 1-3)Only few %of MS consoles break ... if all those people just gave up ... Microsoft wouldnt have lost much customers.

Point 4) People who hate(Insert company Name)and the(Insert console) brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about(insert console name)games.

6) People who don't want to pay for (insert "bluray" or"controller gimmick")no matter what and will never get a (insert console name).

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a (Insert "console"), ....

Your points are all plain stupid and every "fanboy" could turn them the way he wanted. Theyr arent specific to xbox 360. You should get some education or logic skills at first my good boy. That way you will find it hard to pass most companie's pre-employement testing. You wont try to tell people about stupid things liek that then, when you cant even afford a console anymore.

Best wishes and good luck. (Youll need it)

This Post fails on a grand scale

PS your Fanboy is showing

How does his post fail... It makes alot of sense, he is just stating that it can all be turned around from other peoples perspective so thats why the original posters logic is faulty. Its not that hard to see that, its not a fanboy remark....

[QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

nice try noob, but you have utterly failed

I take it you were a nintendo fan when ps1 came out, I'm sure they said the same thing

Yellow_Rose

Listen Fangirl this guy makes a good point i mean on the basis of Hardware reliability it will play a big part in the way the 360 is percived buy the mass market. I mean what good is a gaming console if it keeps breaking idiot.

My launch 360 works just fine.

First of all i dont care about your launch 360

2nd how do i know you are not lying to me

3rd whats to stop that Launch 360 from breaking tomoz or the day after

4th Your Sig is **** (Al B) RULES

1) It proves not all 360 break.

2) You don't. But I have no reason to lie.

3) What's to stop any piece of equipment from breaking down tomorrow or the day after

4) Thanx

You are totlay missing the point

The Fact of a matter is it is well known that 360s have a high failure rate. while you sound like a fangirl. in order to win a console war you need to capture the casual and the mass market. but you cannot do that if your hardware fails. because casuals and the mass market are not as stupid as fanboys. they wont wait till the 11th console breaks to switch sides why because they dont care bout a stupid consol war they car about there gaming needs.

PS3 and Wii arn't even a year old yet! :shock:

the 360 is over 1 1/2 years old!

of course its gonna have the most games!

[QUOTE="101gamespot"][QUOTE="klausklaus"][QUOTE="hamidious"]

1) Die-hard lemmings and newly annointed lemmings who can't live without their 360 and arey ok with going through 2,3,4,5, or 11consoles, they are the equivelant of the Gamecube fanbase and will always support the 360.

2) People who want a 360 but if it breaks on them they will switch sides.

3) People who own all consoles or two of them and love their 360, but after a while they find that the competition is evolving and won't keep their 360when it breaks and find out that after a while that their love for the 360 is not pragmatic anymore.

4) People who hate M$ and the X-box brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about 360 games.

6) People who don't want to pay for online no matter what and will never get a 360.

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a 360, and Microsoft cares as much about PC gaming because it wants to sell Vista(which will never catch up without cool DX10 games), so this will never change.

bri360

Stupid post. No logic in it at all .... did you ever go to school or do you think "gamespot" is education?

Points 1-3)Only few %of MS consoles break ... if all those people just gave up ... Microsoft wouldnt have lost much customers.

Point 4) People who hate(Insert company Name)and the(Insert console) brand and consider themselves traitors if they buy one.

5) People who own other consoles and don't give a damn about(insert console name)games.

6) People who don't want to pay for (insert "bluray" or"controller gimmick")no matter what and will never get a (insert console name).

7) People who have a gaming PC and can't find too much distinction for them to own a (Insert "console"), ....

Your points are all plain stupid and every "fanboy" could turn them the way he wanted. Theyr arent specific to xbox 360. You should get some education or logic skills at first my good boy. That way you will find it hard to pass most companie's pre-employement testing. You wont try to tell people about stupid things liek that then, when you cant even afford a console anymore.

Best wishes and good luck. (Youll need it)

This Post fails on a grand scale

PS your Fanboy is showing

How does his post fail... It makes alot of sense, he is just stating that it can all be turned around from other peoples perspective so thats why the original posters logic is faulty. Its not that hard to see that, its not a fanboy remark....

Small % Fanboy Man Has Arrived (Meaning U)

PS3 and Wii arn't even a year old yet! :shock:

the 360 is over 1 1/2 years old!

of course its gonna have the most games!

Rikusaki