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#1 Rikusaki
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Now that the iPhone is officially a gaming device, we can now make threads against it in SW. And all of us pretty much agree that the iPhone is a piece of junk, right?

Let's make a list.

X Reasons why the iPhone sucks:

  1. Can't use custom sounds
  2. No USB port
  3. No Java support
  4. Forwarding Email attachments wastes data
  5. Inbox for multiple email accounts sucks
  6. Camera button sucks
  7. Can't FWD TXTs
  8. Recent Call Deleting
  9. No file structure access
  10. Background notification MIA
  11. Requires one or many more key pushes than most other phones to do incredibly simple things.
  12. One of the crappiest "keypads" in existence. Hardware is better for this, not touchscreen. Period.
  13. There are prodcuts on the market of higher build qaulity and increased functionality with similar price tags.
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#2 Tessellation
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No that's just your opinion,i find the a iphone a great piece of tech.
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#3 Rikusaki
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No that's just your opinion,i find the a iphone a great piece of tech.Tessellation
The items in the list are facts. ;)
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sounds like a hater. in b4 lock
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#6 Rikusaki
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The Sony Ericsson Aino can play PS3 games. How is Apple going to beat that?

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Let`s list some of the strong points of the iPhone, to get a fair match here. First of all, iPhone 3GS is a power monster. Not only does it feature a 600 Mhz processor (underclocked from 833 Mhz), but it also has a very strong GPU : the PowerVR SGX. To make an idea, PowerVR SGX is the fifth generation of these types of GPUs. The Dreamcast had a PowerVR II (2nd generation) inside. The touch screen is a great piece of technology, not only you`re not supposed to 'poke' it (as it`s the case with the resistive touch screen technology as seen in the DS) but it works by just making contact with the screen surface (like a _touch_ and not '_poke_' screen should work). It`s also able to track up to five (or ten, not really sure) fingers individually unlike the normal resistive touch screens where you`re limited to one. It`s appstore is open to developers of any size and skill, making it a somewhat free platform with tens of thousands of apps available. Just yesterday I opened the DSi Ware channel on my DSi and I could count the available games on the fingers of one hand.

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#8 wayne_kar
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its easier to hate than to want isnt it.

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#9 funsohng
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i hate iphone because everyone has iphone and i hate apple and i think it's way too expensive and i think apple is the worst company ever. screw apple.
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Let`s list some of the strong points of the iPhone, to get a fair match here. First of all, iPhone 3GS is a power monster. Not only does it feature a 600 Mhz processor (underclocked from 833 Mhz), but it also has a very strong GPU : the PowerVR SGX. To make an idea, PowerVR SGX is the fifth generation of these types of GPUs. The Dreamcast had a PowerVR II (2nd generation) inside. The touch screen is a great piece of technology, not only you`re not supposed to 'poke' it (as it`s the case with the resistive touch screen technology as seen in the DS) but it works by just making contact with the screen surface (like a _touch_ and not '_poke_' screen should work). It`s also able to track up to five (or ten, not really sure) fingers individually unlike the normal resistive touch screens where you`re limited to one. It`s appstore is open to developers of any size and skill, making it a somewhat free platform with tens of thousands of apps available. Just yesterday I opened the DSi Ware channel on my DSi and I could count the available games on the fingers of one hand.

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I don't care about the CPU/GPU. I care about the actual hardware FEATURES.

The Sony Ericsson Aino has:

  • A Micro SD Slot (If a cell phone doesn't have this, it automatically fails)
  • 8.1 MP Camera (3264x2448 pixels)
  • VGA Video Recording @ 30FPS
  • Carl Zeiss Lens
  • Autofocus, LED flash
  • Stereo Speakers
  • Wi-Fi 802.11
  • Remote Play (PS3)
  • 3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps
  • Messaging - SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email
  • Stereo FM radio with RDS
  • MP3/AAC/MP4 player
  • A camera that actually functions like a normal camera.
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my iPhone is strictly used as a cellphone and i have to say technically its a great cellphone..

i do have 4 games on it but i dont use it as a handheld gaming devise... i got the PSP for that..

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i hate iphone because everyone has iphone and i hate apple and i think it's way too expensive and i think apple is the worst company ever. screw apple.funsohng
im the same with shoe's. everyone has shoes.... so i hate them.... screw shoes
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]i hate iphone because everyone has iphone and i hate apple and i think it's way too expensive and i think apple is the worst company ever. screw apple.wayne_kar
im the same with shoe's. everyone has shoes.... so i hate them.... screw shoes

bare feet is way to go my bro Too bad NA people don't do that kind of thing, I used to go to school with bare feet in NZ
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#14 Rikusaki
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its easier to hate than to want isnt it.

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No, because there are many phones out there that have more hardware features than the iPhone.
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#15 abuabed
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We're friends and all Riku but insulting Apple is like insulting me :evil: :P, iPhone is one of the best mobile phones available in my opinion, no mobile phone is good enough for gaming (that's why we have PSP and DS right?). I don't have an iPhone right now but I'll be getting one next year, just to make you angry :P
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Now that the iPhone is officially a gaming device, we can now make threads against it in SW. And all of us pretty much agree that the iPhone is a piece of junk, right?

Let's make a list.

X Reasons why the iPhone sucks:

  1. Can't use custom sounds
  2. No USB port
  3. No Java support
  4. Forwarding Email attachments wastes data
  5. Inbox for multiple email accounts sucks
  6. Camera button sucks
  7. Can't FWD TXTs
  8. Recent Call Deleting
  9. No file structure access
  10. Background notification MIA
  11. Requires one or many more key pushes than most other phones to do incredibly simple things.
  12. One of the crappiest "keypads" in existence. Hardware is better for this, not touchscreen. Period.

Rikusaki

13. There are prodcuts on the market of higher build qaulity with increased functionality and flexability with similar price tags.

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#17 Rikusaki
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We're friends and all Riku but insulting Apple is like insulting me :evil: :P, iPhone is one of the best mobile phones available in my opinion, no mobile phone is good enough for gaming (that's why we have PSP and DS right?). I don't have an iPhone right now but I'll be getting one next year, just to make you angry :Pabuabed
Get a Sony Ericsson Aino when it comes out this month. It can play PS3 games. ;)
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#18 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Now that the iPhone is officially a gaming device, we can now make threads against it in SW. And all of us pretty much agree that the iPhone is a piece of junk, right?

Let's make a list.

X Reasons why the iPhone sucks:

  1. Can't use custom sounds
  2. No USB port
  3. No Java support
  4. Forwarding Email attachments wastes data
  5. Inbox for multiple email accounts sucks
  6. Camera button sucks
  7. Can't FWD TXTs
  8. Recent Call Deleting
  9. No file structure access
  10. Background notification MIA
  11. Requires one or many more key pushes than most other phones to do incredibly simple things.
  12. One of the crappiest "keypads" in existence. Hardware is better for this, not touchscreen. Period.

Marka1700

13. There are prodcuts on the market of higher build qaulitywith increased functionality and flexabilitywith similar price tags.

I agree. My 5-year-old Sony Ericsson W810i is still awesome. The Duo Slot makes it future-proof.

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[QUOTE="abuabed"]We're friends and all Riku but insulting Apple is like insulting me :evil: :P, iPhone is one of the best mobile phones available in my opinion, no mobile phone is good enough for gaming (that's why we have PSP and DS right?). I don't have an iPhone right now but I'll be getting one next year, just to make you angry :PRikusaki
Get a Sony Ericsson Aino when it comes out this month. It can play PS3 games. ;)

Who would want to play a PS3 game on a phone? nevertheless Aino sounds like a great deal, how much is it gonna cost? *easily convinced*
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#20 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="abuabed"]We're friends and all Riku but insulting Apple is like insulting me :evil: :P, iPhone is one of the best mobile phones available in my opinion, no mobile phone is good enough for gaming (that's why we have PSP and DS right?). I don't have an iPhone right now but I'll be getting one next year, just to make you angry :Pabuabed
Get a Sony Ericsson Aino when it comes out this month. It can play PS3 games. ;)

Who would want to play a PS3 game on a phone? nevertheless Aino sounds like a great deal, how much is it gonna cost? *easily convinced*

Rumors say around 400-500$. It's worth it, though as it has an amazing 8.1 MP camera and a Micro SD slot (Finally Sony decedes to switch over).

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_aino-2810.php

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#21 funsohng
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[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Get a Sony Ericsson Aino when it comes out this month. It can play PS3 games. ;)Rikusaki

Who would want to play a PS3 game on a phone? nevertheless Aino sounds like a great deal, how much is it gonna cost? *easily convinced*

Rumors say around 400-500$. It's worth it, though as it has an amazing 8.1 MP camera and a Micro SD slot (Finally Sony decedes to switch over).

a price worth of sony style it's more expensive than ps3 wth
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#22 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"] Who would want to play a PS3 game on a phone? nevertheless Aino sounds like a great deal, how much is it gonna cost? *easily convinced*funsohng

Rumors say around 400-500$. It's worth it, though as it has an amazing 8.1 MP camera and a Micro SD slot (Finally Sony decedes to switch over).

a price worth of sony style it's more expensive than ps3 wth

Many phones are more expensive than the PS3.
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#23 abuabed
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^^ It has some nice features, an 8.1 MP camera is tempting, thanks for the link Riku :)

The problem with other phones is the OS, I've been using Mac OS X for about 2 years and I have found it to be the best OS ever, an iPhone would go pretty well with my MacBook and the number of apps it has is insane, also many apps are really good plus the OS itself is amazing. I'll need to do some more research before getting a new phone I guess.

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#24 Rikusaki
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^^ It has some nice features, an 8.1 MP camera is tempting, thanks for the link Riku :)abuabed
It's also a hybrid between a touchscreen phone and a keypad. If you want an epic touchscreen phone, go with the Satio (It has a 12.1 MP camera).

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_satio_%28idou%29-2683.php

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#25 N-K0d3R
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Aino can`t play PS3 games, it has remote connectivity with the PS3, allowing you to control it remotely, probably streaming games, movies, pictures from the PS3 to your phone. It`s not able to play PS3 games on its own. If I`m not mistaken, this is also a feature the PSP has.

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#26 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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App Store.. nuff said.

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[QUOTE="wayne_kar"][QUOTE="funsohng"]i hate iphone because everyone has iphone and i hate apple and i think it's way too expensive and i think apple is the worst company ever. screw apple.funsohng
im the same with shoe's. everyone has shoes.... so i hate them.... screw shoes

bare feet is way to go my bro Too bad NA people don't do that kind of thing, I used to go to school with bare feet in NZ

You live in NZ?

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App Store.. nuff said.

wapahala

The apps are worthless.

Hardware features are more important.

Touchscreen+Hardware keypad >>> Touchscreen

MicroSD Slot >>>>>>Integrated memory

Sony 12.1 MP Camera >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple 3.15MP Camera

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#29 abuabed
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Nvidia also has a good phone, it can output a 720p res video. I'd say, this mobile is the best one available for gaming, though I wouldn't get it just for that.

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#30 Rikusaki
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Nvidia also has a good phone, it can output a 720p res video. I'd say, this mobile is the best one available for gaming, though I wouldn't get it just for that.

abuabed
It's not good, it's amazing. I can't wait to see the Tegra APX being used in upcoming cell phones.
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#31 manicfoot
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Anyone hear about the 3GS overheat problems? Apparently you're not meant to use it in temps above 30 degrees celcius. In the UK we had reports of them getting red hot and burning people. I also burst out laughing when I saw them advertising the new firmware... Adding the ability to copy and paste. Is that realy something to brag about? Then they said "want to send video to a friend with an iPhone? There's an app for that." Most phone's can send anything to anyone over bluetooth! We've been able to do that since 2002!

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#32 Rikusaki
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Anyone hear about the 3GS overheat problems? Apparently you're not meant to use it in temps above 30 degrees celcius. In the UK we had reports of them getting red hot and burning people. I also burst out laughing when I saw them advertising the new firmware... Adding the ability to copy and paste. Is that realy something to brag about? Then they said "want to send video to a friend with an iPhone? There's an app for that." Most phone's can send anything to anyone over bluetooth! We've been able to do that since 2002!

manicfoot
I know. Apple is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if they made an iPhone 3GF (Flash) and bragged about the new led flash on the camera. :lol:
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#33 abuabed
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Anyone hear about the 3GS overheat problems? Apparently you're not meant to use it in temps above 30 degrees celcius. In the UK we had reports of them getting red hot and burning people. I also burst out laughing when I saw them advertising the new firmware... Adding the ability to copy and paste. Is that realy something to brag about? Then they said "want to send video to a friend with an iPhone? There's an app for that." Most phone's can send anything to anyone over bluetooth! We've been able to do that since 2002!

manicfoot
I've never heard of this overheating problem, it's a damn phone, why would it overheat so much? it's not like it's running a PS3 game lol is it?
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#34 thejakel11225
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We're discussing cell phones now?? anyway yeah, the iphone sucks the big one. This thing doesn't even have bluetooth (other than wireless headset).

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#35 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

Anyone hear about the 3GS overheat problems? Apparently you're not meant to use it in temps above 30 degrees celcius. In the UK we had reports of them getting red hot and burning people. I also burst out laughing when I saw them advertising the new firmware... Adding the ability to copy and paste. Is that realy something to brag about? Then they said "want to send video to a friend with an iPhone? There's an app for that." Most phone's can send anything to anyone over bluetooth! We've been able to do that since 2002!

abuabed
I've never heard of this overheating problem, it's a damn phone, why would it overheat so much? it's not like it's running a PS3 game lol is it?

The CPU/GPU do get pretty hot in there. My mom has one and it does get warm resting in your hands.
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#36 abuabed
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@ Riku That's a serious problem, I wouldn't want to get some burns while calling my friends.
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#37 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]@ Riku That's a serious problem, I wouldn't want to get some burns while calling my friends.

It's not bad, it only gets hot when you leave it in 90F+ temperatures.
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@ Riku That's a serious problem, I wouldn't want to get some burns while calling my friends.abuabed
all batteries get hot. i remember a few years ago sony had issues with laptop batteries catching on fire.

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#39 abuabed
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="abuabed"]@ Riku That's a serious problem, I wouldn't want to get some burns while calling my friends.

It's not bad, it only gets hot when you leave it in 90F+ temperatures.

That's a problem for me, the temperature here gets higher than 40C, at summer it even reaches 50C at daytime, with that heat you could cook an egg on a clean street!
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#40 manicfoot
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]@ Riku That's a serious problem, I wouldn't want to get some burns while calling my friends.wayne_kar

all batteries get hot. i remember a few years ago sony had issues with laptop batteries catching on fire.

True, it doesn't happen to apple exclusively but the problem is emancipated by not being able to remove the battery. Your only option is to turn the thing off.

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[QUOTE="wapahala"]

App Store.. nuff said.

Rikusaki

The apps are worthless.

Hardware features are more important.

Touchscreen+Hardware keypad >>> Touchscreen

MicroSD Slot >>>>>>Integrated memory

Sony 12.1 MP Camera >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple 3.15MP Camera

How is a metronome (free), guitar tuner (free),piano (free), drum set (free) (I'm very musical, so these apps are perfect for me), Monkey Island, Tyrian (free), MSN (free), Skype (free), GPS (free), Rolando, the best iPod, fantastic touch screen with multitouch, a great phone OS built from the ground up for the phone, +++ "worthless"? And there are many many more apps for all tastes. It is a great gadget, gaming device, and a fantastic phone. Do you even have one?

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#42 abuabed
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="wapahala"]

App Store.. nuff said.

wapahala

The apps are worthless.

Hardware features are more important.

Touchscreen+Hardware keypad >>> Touchscreen

MicroSD Slot >>>>>>Integrated memory

Sony 12.1 MP Camera >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple 3.15MP Camera

How is a metronome (free), guitar tuner (free),piano (free), drum set (free) (I'm very musical, so these apps are perfect for me), Monkey Island, Tyrian (free), MSN (free), Skype (free), GPS (free), Rolando, the best iPod, fantastic touch screen with multitouch, a great phone OS built from the ground up for the phone, +++ "worthless"? And there are many many more apps for all tastes. It is a great gadget, gaming device, and a fantastic phone. Do you even have one?

Riku is acting as a fanboy today, so don't bother :P
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#43 DAZZER7
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This thread is quite interesting, I have been toying with the idea of getting the new iPhone for a while and dont really know what alternatives there are.

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#44 wayne_kar
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This thread is quite interesting, I have been toying with the idea of getting the new iPhone for a while and dont really know what alternatives there are.

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best thing to do is check out review site and compare. dont take opinion here seriously. even pop in your local phone shop and see them. personnaly its the best phone ive ever owned and ive owned highend nokia's sony's and blackberries. but dont take my word for it
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#45 double-r
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iphone is great but it lost its appeal to me when so many people have one

ipods and iphones are over hype and expensive for what they are

cowan d2>>>>>>>> any ipod ever released

the only reason iphone is so popular is because of the apps and is related to apples other overrated product

android os >>>>>> iphones os.

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#46 IAmLegend7
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Ummm, the iPhone will outsell that Ericsson by a huge margin, so really, who cares? I find the iPhone (friend has it) to be an awesome phone with so many more features than any portable gaming device. Just because you're an Apple hater doesn't mean it sucks. Sure, it might have its flaws, but what doesn't?.
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#47 Communistsheep
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My question to all of you is. Why the hell would you need all these overpriced phones anyway? I bought this Sony Ericsson W302 with a 3 gb memory and it has been going strong for a year now.

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#48 abuabed
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My question to all of you is. Why the hell would you need all these overpriced phones anyway? I bought this Sony Ericsson W302 with a 3 gb memory and it has been going strong for a year now.

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I have an ancient Nokia(I don't even know its name lol) phone for 5 years and it is still working like a charm, I'll get a new phone maybe next year but I wouldn't pay more than a $300 for it.
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#49 wayne_kar
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My question to all of you is. Why the hell would you need all these overpriced phones anyway? I bought this Sony Ericsson W302 with a 3 gb memory and it has been going strong for a year now.

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its not the most overpriced thing ive bought. i bought a launch PS3
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#50 AzatiS
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No that's just your opinion,i find the a iphone a great piece of tech.Tessellation
Great peice of tech , sure ... But what of a gaming system is this to compare it to DS - PsP or something similar... I wouldnt buy a cellphone for gaming ever