Why the PS3 has a better take on motion controls than the Wii

I own both.  I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1.  With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly.  If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently.  There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point.  In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls.  While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly. 

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3.  Pointing is only estimated on the Wii.  I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on.  The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice.  You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed.  You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller.  It adds more control.  In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options.  It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish.  Players aren't given the option.  Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller?  Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

To sum the TC up: "PS3 utilizes motion sensing better than the Wii because it doesn't use them all the time". Apples and oranges, that's all I can tell you.

just because your setup is crappy so you cant sit down doesnt mean ps3>wii.

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

To sum the TC up: "PS3 utilizes motion sensing better than the Wii because it doesn't use them all the time". Apples and oranges, that's all I can tell you.

Nova_Mongoose

That's part of it, yes.

People complain about the PS3 pushing Blu-Ray, what about the Wii pushing motion controls?

The motion controls on the Wii have too many faults to rely on it completely!

Hmmm....   NO.SER69

I gave reasons.  The least you could do is respond to them.

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

NYCgamer47

does someone have to get out the definition of a gimmick again >_> give the word a rest 

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

 

nnavidson

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

just because your setup is crappy so you cant sit down doesnt mean ps3>wii.

oback

Explain what I'm doing wrong so I can actually enjoy my Wii properly.  I feel like I've tried everything.

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

nnavidson

[QUOTE="oback"]

just because your setup is crappy so you cant sit down doesnt mean ps3>wii.

nnavidson

Explain what I'm doing wrong so I can actually enjoy my Wii properly. I feel like I've tried everything.

you need to sell your wii and get more uber games for your PS3 like.................................um.............................err............ 

Nintendo is actually being quite selective in terms of using motion controls. games like super mario strikers will only use motion for things like hitting and stopping goals, they realize that trying to use motions for everything would slow down the pace of this game and make it less enjoyable. also SSBB might use gamecube controller for the same reasons.

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

Darklayk

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it.  Those are the options.  Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine.  Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it.  Those are the options.  Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine.  Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

 

nnavidson

Maybe you should have done more research before buying it 

[QUOTE="Darklayk"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

nnavidson

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it. Those are the options. Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine. Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

its a small thing its not huge is it the top of bottom i mean comon i am sure you TV has some room at the top

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

foxhound_fox

Yes, and several games rely on pointing.  Pointing doesn't work well with some set ups.

[QUOTE="Darklayk"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

nnavidson

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it. Those are the options. Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine. Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

you can put the sensor bar wherever you want as long as you point at it. I have played with the sensor bar at the foot of my bed and the tv way off to the left of the room.  

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it.  Those are the options.  Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine.  Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.nnavidson

You can set how far down the screen (or up depending if it is on top or underneath) the pointer registers.  I got zelda to aim exactly where I was pointing it to.  If you are having trouble with it, go into the Wii menu instead of SW.

[QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="Darklayk"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

obi1232004

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it. Those are the options. Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine. Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

its a small thing its not huge is it the top of bottom i mean comon i am sure you TV has some room at the top

My point is it doesn't work well in either place.

[QUOTE="SER69"]Hmmm....   NO.nnavidson

I gave reasons.  The least you could do is respond to them.

Do you understand that the point feature is NOT a light gun, no? You AIM at the sensor-bar, not at the tv screen. Its like a pc mouse dude, you dont put the mouse in the monitor screen and try to move the pointer....

[QUOTE="obi1232004"][QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="Darklayk"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

nnavidson

in another sum up, the TC thinks the PS3 motion control is better than the wii because it cant point?? which has nothing to do with motion control anyway. and seriously you stand up to play wii games? i can even play wii sports sitting down when i want to. you see that little thing called the sensor bar, you realise the wii poiting interface is the same as a mouse right? do you point your mouse at the screen while standing up? no wonder you bought a PS3 with those astounding brains.

I can put the sensor bar on top of my tv, or at the base of it. Those are the options. Do I need to buy a new television stand to get my Wii to work as advertised.

I've never had to re-arange a room for any other gaming machine. Why should the Wii be different, especially when I don't really have that option.

its a small thing its not huge is it the top of bottom i mean comon i am sure you TV has some room at the top

My point is it doesn't work well in either place.

well then my advice to you is to get it fixed as i have used it in both positions and its been fine 

A. Not all games will be using it

B. At first I was really upset it didn't point exactly where I was pointing it... then I realized how much my wrist would hurt if that were the case.

C. when sitting down, are you level with your TV?  How far away do you sit?  Is the sensor bar at the top or bottom?  Touch the two points of the sensor bar after u have been playing, are they hot?  If not, you need a new one.

D. All your problems with the wii remote aside, I don't see how you can support this claim that the PS3's sixaxis is better...  if anything, it's the "gimmick." http://caughtsonyintheact.ytmnd.com/

Sony has been stealing from Nintendo for years, the sixaxis was just a half-assed attempt.  Also, the technology in the sixaxis has been available for a long long time.

F. Do not forget the future atachments for the wii remote.  The controller has room to grow.

G. Have a contest with someone on navigating the internet using the wii and the ps3.  See who is faster.

H. Sixaxis can't do FPS like a wii remote.  Nobody should pay attention to red steal, that was crap.  Wait for Metroid 3.

I. The wii remote is more than a pointer, it's a virtual "wand."  What you do with it can be almost exactly translated onto the game.

[QUOTE="oback"]

just because your setup is crappy so you cant sit down doesnt mean ps3>wii.

nnavidson

Explain what I'm doing wrong so I can actually enjoy my Wii properly. I feel like I've tried everything.

Pull the sensor bar as far forward as possible to the face of the display.  Open up the sensitivity option in the Wii system menu and figure out a place to put the sensor bar where the remote can see it.  If you have to stand up to use the pointer, part of your TV or something is blocking the remote's line of sight when you're sitting down.

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

NYCgamer47

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

NYCgamer47

Yup its a gimmick alright..... 

i dont know how it is with all the wii games but some of the wii games that i have played had the option of using the GC controller instead of the wii remote/nunchucks. So your wrong about how motorstorm having an option using sixaxis or basic controls while wii games cant do that.

Anyhow its your preferenc. If you love the ps3 motion sensor capability over the wii more power to ya. whatever floats your boat.

This wins retarded Wii bashing thread of the day imfo.

Godfather on Wii is a perfect proof of concept, it does stuff you simple couldnt have on another console and the pointing part is great. 

ok>>> first of all i think you are a liar and or just dont know what the heck you are talking about...

the sensor bar is only used for the pointing capabilities.... not the motion sensing..

so the wii has better motion sensing+ pointing(even if not perfect like you claim the ps3 lacks entirely)

and the ps3 has better motion sensing...

PLEASE EXPLAIN 

[QUOTE="oback"]

just because your setup is crappy so you cant sit down doesnt mean ps3>wii.

nnavidson

Explain what I'm doing wrong so I can actually enjoy my Wii properly. I feel like I've tried everything.

C. when sitting down, are you level with your TV?  How far away do you sit?  Is the sensor bar at the top or bottom?  Touch the two points of the sensor bar after u have been playing, are they hot?  If not, you need a new one.

The couch is a little to the right, but paralell of the television.  Siting on the couch, the tv is abouta foot taller.

D. All your problems with the wii remote aside, I don't see how you can support this claim that the PS3's sixaxis is better...  if anything, it's the "gimmick." http://caughtsonyintheact.ytmnd.com/

The Wii had me cursing motion controls when I realized that the cost was the gameplay I've enjoyed for two decades.  The PS3 has less motion control options but they were added to the standard options of the past.  The Wii games require motion control even when they don't make sense.

Look at the DS.  For every great DS game, there are at least two that would have played significantly better with the d-pad.

Sony has been stealing from Nintendo for years, the sixaxis was just a half-assed attempt.  Also, the technology in the sixaxis has been available for a long long time.

I agree that Sony threw in motion control in response to the Wii.  It's more that in Nintendo's move to push unique controls, it's limiting several developers to continue some long enjoyed traditions.

F. Do not forget the future atachments for the wii remote.  The controller has room to grow.

With that logic, the PS3 and 360 have the same ability with constant driver updates and hard drives. 

G. Have a contest with someone on navigating the internet using the wii and the ps3.  See who is faster.

Is the PS3 user using a keyboard and mouse?  Add a third person to your contest using a computer.  I guess all games should use keyboard and mouse.

H. Sixaxis can't do FPS like a wii remote.  Nobody should pay attention to red steal, that was crap.  Wait for Metroid 3.

I'll wait for Metroid.  It's one of the main reasons I bought a Wii.  So far previews haven't had the highest praises of the controls.  Notice that the controls were made and now software developers have to figure out how to make them work.  The Wii is still yet to have been proven as a solid FPS system.

I. The wii remote is more than a pointer, it's a virtual "wand."  What you do with it can be almost exactly translated onto the game.

I've yet to see a game that fully takes advantage of this including Wario Ware and Wii Sports.

Nitrosoft1

This wins retarded Wii bashing thread of the day imfo.

Godfather on Wii is a perfect proof of concept, it does stuff you simple couldnt have on another console and the pointing part is great. 

rumpel4skin

I haven't played the Wii version so I'll reference  the current Game Informer Review:

 "the sloppy-motion based combat and IR targeting make the game even more painful than it was on the other machines.  The Wii version holds up graphically, but it's ailing gameplay makes it the worst entry yet."

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

NYCgamer47

Wow... how is the Wiimote a gimmick, but the SIXAXIS's controller motion sensing not? :lol:

I own both.  I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1.  With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly.  If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently.  There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point.  In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls.  While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly. 

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3.  Pointing is only estimated on the Wii.  I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on.  The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice.  You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed.  You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller.  It adds more control.  In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options.  It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish.  Players aren't given the option.  Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller?  Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

 

nnavidson

[QUOTE="Nitrosoft1"]

C. when sitting down, are you level with your TV?  How far away do you sit?  Is the sensor bar at the top or bottom?  Touch the two points of the sensor bar after u have been playing, are they hot?  If not, you need a new one.

The couch is a little to the right, but paralell of the television.  Siting on the couch, the tv is abouta foot taller.

D. All your problems with the wii remote aside, I don't see how you can support this claim that the PS3's sixaxis is better...  if anything, it's the "gimmick." http://caughtsonyintheact.ytmnd.com/

The Wii had me cursing motion controls when I realized that the cost was the gameplay I've enjoyed for two decades.  The PS3 has less motion control options but they were added to the standard options of the past.  The Wii games require motion control even when they don't make sense.

Look at the DS.  For every great DS game, there are at least two that would have played significantly better with the d-pad.

Sony has been stealing from Nintendo for years, the sixaxis was just a half-assed attempt.  Also, the technology in the sixaxis has been available for a long long time.

I agree that Sony threw in motion control in response to the Wii.  It's more that in Nintendo's move to push unique controls, it's limiting several developers to continue some long enjoyed traditions.

F. Do not forget the future atachments for the wii remote.  The controller has room to grow.

With that logic, the PS3 and 360 have the same ability with constant driver updates and hard drives. 

G. Have a contest with someone on navigating the internet using the wii and the ps3.  See who is faster.

Is the PS3 user using a keyboard and mouse?  Add a third person to your contest using a computer.  I guess all games should use keyboard and mouse.

H. Sixaxis can't do FPS like a wii remote.  Nobody should pay attention to red steal, that was crap.  Wait for Metroid 3.

I'll wait for Metroid.  It's one of the main reasons I bought a Wii.  So far previews haven't had the highest praises of the controls.  Notice that the controls were made and now software developers have to figure out how to make them work.  The Wii is still yet to have been proven as a solid FPS system.

I. The wii remote is more than a pointer, it's a virtual "wand."  What you do with it can be almost exactly translated onto the game.

I've yet to see a game that fully takes advantage of this including Wario Ware and Wii Sports.

nnavidson

The wall of opinion 

I own both. I'll number my points so you can choose which one to disagree with.

1. With the Wii, you need to have the sensor bar positioned perfectly. If it's bumped into, your motions register completely differently. There is no sensor bar for the PS3.

2. This is somewhat of a continuation of my first point. In my apartment, I can't sit on my couch and actually use the motion controls. While playing Super Paper Mario, I can't actually point at the screen with any accuracy unless I stand up.

I have no problem standing up to play Wii sports, but having to stand to play Super Paper Mario is just silly.

This is true with any game that involves pointing.

3. Pointing is only estimated on the Wii. I can't point at the screen exactly on what I want to click on. The light gun on my NES was more accurate at aiming where I point.

Granted, the PS3 doesn't have the ability to point, but I'd rather that than everyone pretend they're happy with the Wii providing less accurate controls that advertised.

4. So far I've been talking about the weakness of the Wii's motion controls, but haven't talked about the PS3's.

Currently, the PS3 uses the motion controls like a tasty spice. You play Resistance like your typical game until you're grabbed. You then quickly shake the monster off with your controller. It adds more control. In other cases like Motorstorm, the player has the option to use motion control or standard controls.

The Wii doesn't give you options. It takes what makes a great spice and often serves it as the main dish. Players aren't given the option. Why not let people play Excite Truck with the classic controller? Is Nintendo too afraid that if some people realize prefer the standard controls they'll realize the main selling point of the system was a wash?

 

 

nnavidson

Yeah this things you mentioned about the wiimote happens when people are too close to the sensor (you should be at least 3 feet away from the sensor) or haven't noticed there's an option to adjust the wiimote to the sensor.

Both my wiimotes work FLAWLESSLY while playing my games, specially WiiPlay's "Duck Hunt".

I SOLD MY WII....I had fun for the first months....then it just became boring....i think i looked stupid and it didnt really had any  game of my like....i still think the motinon  of the wii is cooler (for some time)oscarVD

im inclinded to think you're lying

cows are shouting "wait wait wait the good games are coming!!!"  can't the sheep do the same?!?! I mean, just wait, the good games will come.  All consoles go through this during the first year.

TC you are wrong on so many levels. THE SENSOR BAR DOESNT SENSE MOTION, ITS ONLY A REFERENCE POINT FOR THE POINTER WHICH USES IR.

And the PS3 controller IS the gimmick and just a ps1 controller without rumble and tacked tilt gameboy technology. Wii has full motion sensing.

Agreed.

SIXAXIS > Wii Remote

It's a gimmick, plain and simple, plain and simple.

NYCgamer47

Thats why Sony added tilt sensing at the last moment right? Cows are so funny. They have crap games, crap system and crap controllers + low sales and they are still saying the Wii is the gimmick when its pwning the competition.