why the ps3 is not doing that bad

come on guys. let us analyze things, the xbox360 was released nov of 2005 and at the end of the 2005 managed to sell around 1.3M units worlwide. the ps3 was released also Nov of 2006 and at the end of that year managed to sell 1.5M units worlwide. Well pretty close fight (let us not include the wii here cause it will obviously kick the the ass of both the 360 and ps3). Now during the first 6months on the market the Xbox 360 manage to sell around 1.2M units in the US alone while sony sold around 1.2M ps3 again in the US only. while worlwide the ps3 sold 4.5M units in its first 6months while xbox360 sold around 5M units. the xbox360 outsold the ps3 around 500,000 units, however let us take in consideration that the xbox360 had no competition at that time while the ps3 have the wii to kick its ass (in terms of sales) and the 360 as competition. and let us not forget that the PS3 have noAAAexclusive games and is priced at a whopping $600 but still managed to sell 4.5M units.

Soi say the PS3 is not doing that bad for its sales is almost at par with the 360 probably even better considering the price and competition. look guys i am not a fan boy or anything but i just want people to be fair to the ps3. If it managed to sell 4.5M unitswith a hefty price tag and no great exclusive gameshow much more will it sell if it lower its price (if it will) and if great exclusive games start pouring in (agen if it will)???

im talking about sales here guys. if your thinking about games then thats another story :)

Needs more souls...

Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

In the US, it didn't...

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.DoctorBunny

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

Exactly, and with all the great games coming out, then the sales can only increase!

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

Because of Japanese sales, who would really expect it not to? But after a $100 price drop and still being outsold by the competition that's at its full price for the month... That should worry cows

Needs more souls...

ED898AA

That's creepy. And the PS3 isn't doing bad, just not as well as everyone initially thought. Who would had thought that the PS3 would be in this state, and theWii would be such an everlasting sales buster 2 years ago?

[QUOTE="ED898AA"]

Needs more souls...

marioraider

That's creepy. And the PS3 isn't doing bad, just not as well as everyone initially thought. Who would had thought that the PS3 would be in this state, and theWii would be such an everlasting sales buster 2 years ago?

I did easily

[QUOTE="marioraider"][QUOTE="ED898AA"]

Needs more souls...

DoctorBunny

That's creepy. And the PS3 isn't doing bad, just not as well as everyone initially thought. Who would had thought that the PS3 would be in this state, and theWii would be such an everlasting sales buster 2 years ago?

I did easily

Oh....well then lucky you :P

but still more expensive than the competition with still no great exclusives......

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="marioraider"][QUOTE="ED898AA"]

Needs more souls...

marioraider

That's creepy. And the PS3 isn't doing bad, just not as well as everyone initially thought. Who would had thought that the PS3 would be in this state, and theWii would be such an everlasting sales buster 2 years ago?

I did easily

Oh....well then lucky you :P

Well not 2 years, more like when everyone called it Wii60.. I figured if the majority of 360 owners are buying it for a secondary console, add that in with the people who will buy it for a primary console and you have big sales. Where would it leave sony? And well I was sort of right

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.DoctorBunny

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

Because of Japanese sales, who would really expect it not to? But after a $100 price drop and still being outsold by the competition that's at its full price for the month... That should worry cows

but still more expensive than the competition with still no great exclusives......

it really doesnt matter if the ps3 is selling as well as the 360 sold then. the fact that the 360 got a year head start means the ps3 needed to sell better than the 360 did.the_wet_mop

maybe when the price is much lower and good exclusive games start to come then maybe it will...maybe..we can really never tell what will be the future outcome of this war

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.lee_asid

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

Because of Japanese sales, who would really expect it not to? But after a $100 price drop and still being outsold by the competition that's at its full price for the month... That should worry cows

but still more expensive than the competition with still no great exclusives......

You also realize many people buy it just for the bluray player right? For instance, one of the top best buys in the US advertises it as a bluray player more than a game console.

Also casuals could care less if a games exclusive or not.

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

SSSHHHHH

Americans get really upset when you tell them that they aren't the most important country in the world.

Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.

Next it needs to get it's price down to around 249.99 as soon as possible.

[QUOTE="lee_asid"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.DoctorBunny

In the US, it didn't...

There's a world outside US. It beat the 360 in worldwide sales in July and that's more important than US alone.

Because of Japanese sales, who would really expect it not to? But after a $100 price drop and still being outsold by the competition that's at its full price for the month... That should worry cows

but still more expensive than the competition with still no great exclusives......

You also realize many people buy it just for the bluray player right? For instance, one of the top best buys in the US advertises it as a bluray player more than a game console.

Also casuals could care less if a games exclusive or not.

so if they use it just for the blu ray player? if bluray wins over hddvd...isnt that still a good thing for sony?

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.

Next it needs to get it's price down to around 249.99 as soon as possible.

Trading_Zoner

Wishful thinking?

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.AfterShafter

well the xbox360 have nothing to worry about during its 1st year since it has no next gen console competition but sold just a little more than the ps3. the ps3 that is double the price of the 360

Outselling the 360 in July month with almost the double price tag and no games that are system sellers should be quite worrying for Lems.azad_champ

The very fact that their are 4 threads right now trying to give the PS3 "positive spin" should be quite worrying for the cows.... :shock:

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.Trading_Zoner

Oh stop it. Cows were saying this very thing last year. I predicted last year cows would say "huge games 07, teh year of teh PS3!!". I predicted THIS YEAR 07 they would say "huge games 08, teh year of teh PS3!!". Ill bet my use of the :shock: that in 08 it will be "huge games 09, teh year of teh PS3!!". :shock:

I think what people are forgetting is the fact that this system was hyped very highly. The past two generations it outsold every other console by a great margin. With the great reputation that it had it was thought to be in the lead right now, and as well should have sold triple what it has now. The fact of the matter is that it hasn't. That is why its getting a bad rep, and as well everyone is giving it a hard time. Frankly it does not matter what the 360 did, its what the PS3 should have done, and that is sell well and have a lot of great games available at the time of release or just a couple of months after its release. Instead it has done noneof that, not to say it does not have good games, but games that make you go wow (AAA games). At this time it has underachieved greatly, and has not held the tourch that it once held. Sony has a lot to catching up to do, and thats not just in sales, but in every other area as well.xscrapzx

yes i agree that it did not achieved what people are expecting even what sony is expecting...but all im saying is to compare it to the 360..because why is the xbox360 not being bashed before for not having many great games during its early months? and just having a lilmore sales than the ps3??? let us just be fair

You know, for all this talk of what should be worrying to the Lemmings, what should be worrying to the Cows is that for the past year they've been supporting a system that essentially has no games and cost them way more than either of the other systems to get, and all they can do is brag about getting second place for sales one month. Do Cows actually enjoy playing games, or would you rather cling to a paperweight of a system in hopes of better things in the future while there are other systems with games sitting right out there waiting to be bought - for substantially less money than the PS3, I might add.AfterShafter

Wow...... Ownage Approved Sir.... :shock:

*approves ownage and runs like mad*

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]I think what people are forgetting is the fact that this system was hyped very highly. The past two generations it outsold every other console by a great margin. With the great reputation that it had it was thought to be in the lead right now, and as well should have sold triple what it has now. The fact of the matter is that it hasn't. That is why its getting a bad rep, and as well everyone is giving it a hard time. Frankly it does not matter what the 360 did, its what the PS3 should have done, and that is sell well and have a lot of great games available at the time of release or just a couple of months after its release. Instead it has done noneof that, not to say it does not have good games, but games that make you go wow (AAA games). At this time it has underachieved greatly, and has not held the tourch that it once held. Sony has a lot to catching up to do, and thats not just in sales, but in every other area as well.lee_asid

yes i agree that it did not achieved what people are expecting even what sony is expecting...but all im saying is to compare it to the 360..because why is the xbox360 not being bashed before for not having many great games during its early months? and just having a lilmore sales than the ps3??? let us just be fair

Dude, it was already proven that not only was the 360's launch lineup significantly better than the PS3's its launch library is better than the PS3's current library. :shock:

yes i agree that it did not achieved what people are expecting even what sony is expecting...but all im saying is to compare it to the 360..because why is the xbox360 not being bashed before for not having many great games during its early months? and just having a lilmore sales than the ps3??? let us just be fair

lee_asid

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.Magical_Zebra

Oh stop it. Cows were saying this very thing last year. I predicted last year cows would say "huge games 07, teh year of teh PS3!!". I predicted THIS YEAR 07 they would say "huge games 08, teh year of teh PS3!!". Ill bet my use of the :shock: that in 08 it will be "huge games 09, teh year of teh PS3!!". :shock:

So you are syaing that all of PS3s good games will be delayed until 2009? It's pretty much always been 08 that I have been saying will be PS3s year.

Are you really saying that there aren't any big games coming for PS3 in 2008?

You know, for all this talk of what should be worrying to the Lemmings, what should be worrying to the Cows is that for the past year they've been supporting a system that essentially has no games and cost them way more than either of the other systems to get, and all they can do is brag about getting second place for sales one month. Do Cows actually enjoy playing games, or would you rather cling to a paperweight of a system in hopes of better things in the future while there are other systems with games sitting right out there waiting to be bought - for substantially less money than the PS3, I might add.AfterShafter

the xbox360 just got very lucky for having no competition....analyze if you go back to the first months of the 360 youl also get the same record for it in terms of number of games and units sold...if ur bashing the ps3 now for that then u r also criticizing the 360

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.Trading_Zoner

Oh stop it. Cows were saying this very thing last year. I predicted last year cows would say "huge games 07, teh year of teh PS3!!". I predicted THIS YEAR 07 they would say "huge games 08, teh year of teh PS3!!". Ill bet my use of the :shock: that in 08 it will be "huge games 09, teh year of teh PS3!!". :shock:

So you are syaing that all of PS3s good games will be delayed until 2009? It's pretty much always been 08 that I have been saying will be PS3s year.

Are you really saying that there aren't any big games coming for PS3 in 2008?

the xbox360 just got very lucky for having no competition....analyze if you go back to the first months of the 360 youl also get the same record for it in terms of number of games and units sold...if ur bashing the ps3 now for that then u r also criticizing the 360

lee_asid

[QUOTE="lee_asid"]

well the xbox360 have nothing to worry about during its 1st year since it has no next gen console competition but sold just a little more than the ps3. the ps3 that is double the price of the 360

AfterShafter

coz ur comparing the two systems in a different time table. why dont u compare the ps3 to the xbox360 when it was also 9months old?

[QUOTE="lee_asid"]

well the xbox360 have nothing to worry about during its 1st year since it has no next gen console competition but sold just a little more than the ps3. the ps3 that is double the price of the 360

AfterShafter

coz ur comparing the two systems in a different time table. why dont u compare the ps3 to the xbox360 when it was also 9months old?

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

lee_asid

so if they use it just for the blu ray player? if bluray wins over hddvd...isnt that still a good thing for sony?

No, because they have to sell off part of their company to offset the nearly 3 billion dollar loss created by hardware sales with no software salesdue toa terrible game library, and a lulling of blu-ray releases.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6178038.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.AfterShafter

Oh stop it. Cows were saying this very thing last year. I predicted last year cows would say "huge games 07, teh year of teh PS3!!". I predicted THIS YEAR 07 they would say "huge games 08, teh year of teh PS3!!". Ill bet my use of the :shock: that in 08 it will be "huge games 09, teh year of teh PS3!!". :shock:

So you are syaing that all of PS3s good games will be delayed until 2009? It's pretty much always been 08 that I have been saying will be PS3s year.

Are you really saying that there aren't any big games coming for PS3 in 2008?

Ok, so you are predicting that all of PS3s most anticipated games will flop then? I thought this thread was about sales?

And do you really want me to quote you saying MGS4, FFXIII, and GT5 will flop? Those are PS3s biggest 3 games of 08, so what say you?

LAIR, HS, Uncharted, Warhawk, Motorstorm are all side-games for me, they're only real purpose is to tide me over until the big games come out.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]I think what people are forgetting is the fact that this system was hyped very highly. The past two generations it outsold every other console by a great margin. With the great reputation that it had it was thought to be in the lead right now, and as well should have sold triple what it has now. The fact of the matter is that it hasn't. That is why its getting a bad rep, and as well everyone is giving it a hard time. Frankly it does not matter what the 360 did, its what the PS3 should have done, and that is sell well and have a lot of great games available at the time of release or just a couple of months after its release. Instead it has done noneof that, not to say it does not have good games, but games that make you go wow (AAA games). At this time it has underachieved greatly, and has not held the tourch that it once held. Sony has a lot to catching up to do, and thats not just in sales, but in every other area as well.lee_asid

yes i agree that it did not achieved what people are expecting even what sony is expecting...but all im saying is to compare it to the 360..because why is the xbox360 not being bashed before for not having many great games during its early months? and just having a lilmore sales than the ps3??? let us just be fair

But in the 360's first year it sold 10 million consoles, this year has four more months, with no GREAT playstation games anticipated for it. Sure you have some unknown games such as heveanly sword etc, but there is not agarauntee that those games are going to be huge. Sony has sold what? About 5 mil in 8 months with no AAA Es to back it up, and you believe that they are going to 5-6 mil consoles by years end tobe ahead of the competition. The 360 sold like hotcakes last november regardless if it was out a year already, Sony came out the same time when the 360 was selling its systems left and right during the holidays, and what did the PS3 do? Not much. I don't think it is about fairness, more than it is about facts. The PS3 is always going to be a highly anticipated underachieving game system until it beats the competition.

coz ur comparing the two systems in a different time table. why dont u compare the ps3 to the xbox360 when it was also 9months old?lee_asid

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

Yeah, that's what I have been saying.

Next year, when it gets it's barrage of huge games it will have made up for one of it's problems.Trading_Zoner

Oh stop it. Cows were saying this very thing last year. I predicted last year cows would say "huge games 07, teh year of teh PS3!!". I predicted THIS YEAR 07 they would say "huge games 08, teh year of teh PS3!!". Ill bet my use of the :shock: that in 08 it will be "huge games 09, teh year of teh PS3!!". :shock:

So you are syaing that all of PS3s good games will be delayed until 2009? It's pretty much always been 08 that I have been saying will be PS3s year. Are you really saying that there aren't any big games coming for PS3 in 2008?

Did I say that? I didnt say that. How do I know I didnt say that? Because I was sitting at my desk when I didnt say that. WHAT I AM SAYING is that COWs (you included) make excuses for the PS3 every year. Its always wait till (insert year here). Instead of addressing the situation, its always the "damage control dance". And its sad really because everyone, including the PS3 owners know deep down inside that the PS3 for THIS GEN right here right now did not live up to the godly hype that Sony and its fanboy crew made it, bottom line. :shock:

[QUOTE="the_wet_mop"]it really doesnt matter if the ps3 is selling as well as the 360 sold then. the fact that the 360 got a year head start means the ps3 needed to sell better than the 360 did.lee_asid

maybe when the price is much lower and good exclusive games start to come then maybe it will...maybe..we can really never tell what will be the future outcome of this war

im not saying it cant catch up, but having sales the 360 had a year ago isnt really helping it much.

[QUOTE="lee_asid"]

the xbox360 just got very lucky for having no competition....analyze if you go back to the first months of the 360 youl also get the same record for it in terms of number of games and units sold...if ur bashing the ps3 now for that then u r also criticizing the 360

AfterShafter

because im a gamer and i dont want seeing a good gaming machine being step on just like that for meer fanboyism...im saying here is that both the 360 and ps3 are great machines fanboys are just too busy fighting to realize it

Ok, so you are predicting that all of PS3s most anticipated games will flop then? I thought this thread was about sales?

And do you really want me to quote you saying MGS4, FFXIII, and GT5 will flop? Those are PS3s biggest 3 games of 08, so what say you?

LAIR, HS, Uncharted, Warhawk, Motorstorm are all side-games for me, they're only real purpose is to tide me over until the big games come out.

Trading_Zoner

because im a gamer and i dont want seeing a good gaming machine being step on just like that for meer fanboyism...im saying here is that both the 360 and ps3 are great machines fanboys are just too busy fighting to realize it

lee_asid

Did I say that? I didnt say that. How do I know I didnt say that? Because I was sitting at my desk when I didnt say that. WHAT I AM SAYING is that COWs (you included) make excuses for the PS3 every year. Its always wait till (insert year here). Instead of addressing the situation, its always the "damage control dance". And its sad really because everyone, including the PS3 owners know deep down inside that the PS3 for THIS GEN right here right now did not live up to the godly hype that Sony and its fanboy crew made it, bottom line. :shock:

Magical_Zebra

Actually, I AGREE with you.

I have been one of the few cows who admit that PS3 isn't currently what it was hyped up to be. I laugh when games like LAIR flop, because that's what games like that deserve. I can admit PS3 isn't AWESOME right now because I am confident in it's potential to be a great console in the long term. What's so wrong about that?

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]Ok, so you are predicting that all of PS3s most anticipated games will flop then? I thought this thread was about sales?

And do you really want me to quote you saying MGS4, FFXIII, and GT5 will flop? Those are PS3s biggest 3 games of 08, so what say you?

LAIR, HS, Uncharted, Warhawk, Motorstorm are all side-games for me, they're only real purpose is to tide me over until the big games come out.

AfterShafter

So am I.

Actually, I AGREE with you.

I have been one of the few cows who admit that PS3 isn't currently what it was hyped up to be. I laugh when games like LAIR flop, because that's what games like that deserve. I can admit PS3 isn't AWESOME right now because I am confident in it's potential to be a great console in the long term. What's so wrong about that?

Trading_Zoner