Why the PS3 Will Fail, And why Brian Hastings Was Wrong

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]GOT IT???? i dont see why u lemmings dont get the point. if u made 500,000 copies(with just one disc), ur missing out on two discs becuz its not a full game! manufacturing costs for a dvd9 costs more becuz ur making vast quanities. when u want 500,000 copies ur guna need 1,500,000 discs to make sure u got all of the game on there!!dhjohns

Where can you find blank dvd 9 disc for .30 cent link ??? 

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]I think your the one who failed to add up right-- becuz you'd have to multiply 3 disks x 500,000 copies which ends up 1,500,000 copies, becuz of the three discs only accounts for one game buddy. if u multiply 3(which equals one game, and want to make 500,000 copies, your making 1,500,000 million discs moron).

self ownage approved. Kook18

.30 x 3 = $.90

.90 x 500,000 = $450,000

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

Valid points.

there's just too much against the ps3 to take #1 this gen.

it's funny that before 2 years ago NOONE had even heard of bluray...and now it's "teh future"...

and why? because sony said so...:roll:

2largeadults

That's silly... sony is FORCING hdmi on consumers...even the 99% w/o hdmi capable tvs...

meanwhile ms offers the OPTION to have it if you're in the 1% who has it....

you guys are weird...

i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.filipinothunder

GOT IT???? i dont see why u lemmings dont get the point. if u made 500,000 copies(with just one disc), ur missing out on two discs becuz its not a full game! manufacturing costs for a dvd9 costs more becuz ur making vast quanities. when u want 500,000 copies ur guna need 1,500,000 discs to make sure u got all of the game on there!!filipinothunder

1 disc to make = .30

1,500,000 discs to make = $450,000

1,500,000(discs) divided by 3 discs per game = 500,000 full complete games on store shelves. you open the case & there's 3 discs in it plus an instruction booklet & some other crap no one looks at.

how hard is that to understand? i can't believe i'm doing this.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]GOT IT???? i dont see why u lemmings dont get the point. if u made 500,000 copies(with just one disc), ur missing out on two discs becuz its not a full game! manufacturing costs for a dvd9 costs more becuz ur making vast quanities. when u want 500,000 copies ur guna need 1,500,000 discs to make sure u got all of the game on there!!ChiChiMonKilla

Where can you find blank dvd 9 disc for .30 cent link ???

GOT IT???? i dont see why u lemmings dont get the point. if u made 500,000 copies(with just one disc), ur missing out on two discs becuz its not a full game! manufacturing costs for a dvd9 costs more becuz ur making vast quanities. when u want 500,000 copies ur guna need 1,500,000 discs to make sure u got all of the game on there!!filipinothunder

Let me be the first to thank you for providing us with so much entertainment. I haven't had this much fun in SW in a long time. :D

You really need to take a math course. Admit self-ownage and leave the thread. That is best way out for you. ;)

FYI, I'm no lemming. I'm a manticore  PSN ID: LosDaddie

Just one question why is this fanboy (Peter Chapman) so rude and angry?
He is calling Brian Hastings an idiot?
Man, Hastings is just a gamedesigner who tells us his opinion!
And Peter? Well Peter is a nobody with a blog, who tells us his opinion in a very unprofessional way.
So if Hastings is wrong, why does Peter care so much?
There are other developers and analysts in who say the same!

Even Epics Mark Rein says that Sony is still the one to beat!

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23676

Also watch this episode of Bonus Round at gametrailers.com with

Jason Rubin
Michael Pachter
Grant Collier

http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php?ep=1&pt=3

How do you people know dvd-9 cost .$0.30? Where are you guys getting that information? are you people just pulling it up yah arse?SuperMouse1986

[QUOTE="Sargeras9"]

.90 x 500,000 = $450,000

end of story.

Now, can we please get back on topic here?

filipinothunder

1 game = 3 dvds

3 dvds = 90 cents

.90 x 500,000 = 450,000

Now for the love of God, can you people stop discussing math in a gaming forum?

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.dhjohns

Again where can you find dvd 9 disc for .30 link please so I can get some !!! 

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.dhjohns

do u guys finally get my point? blue dragon would need 1,500,000 discs just to get a fully game of 500,000 units? its not that hard. i think we were both on a different level.filipinothunder

do u guys finally get my point? blue dragon would need 1,500,000 discs just to get a fully game of 500,000 units? its not that hard. i think we were both on a different level.filipinothunder

Just one question why is this fanboy (Peter Chapman) so rude and angry?
He is calling Brian Hastings an idiot?
Man, Hastings is just a gamedesigner who tells us his opinion!
And Peter? Well Peter is a nobody with a blog, who tells us his opinion in a very unprofessional way.
So if Hastings is wrong, why does Peter care so much?
There are other developers and analysts in who say the same!

Kreean

 It's not his blog, he's a writer on the blog.

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]GOT IT???? i dont see why u lemmings dont get the point. if u made 500,000 copies(with just one disc), ur missing out on two discs becuz its not a full game! manufacturing costs for a dvd9 costs more becuz ur making vast quanities. when u want 500,000 copies ur guna need 1,500,000 discs to make sure u got all of the game on there!!Kook18

1 disc to make = .30

1,500,000 discs to make = $450,000

1,500,000(discs) divided by 3 discs per game = 500,000 full complete games on store shelves. you open the case & there's 3 discs in it plus an instruction booklet & some other crap no one looks at.

how hard is that to understand? i can't believe i'm doing this.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.filipinothunder

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.filipinothunder

[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

Valid points.

there's just too much against the ps3 to take #1 this gen.

it's funny that before 2 years ago NOONE had even heard of bluray...and now it's "teh future"...

and why? because sony said so...:roll:

tango90101

That's silly... sony is FORCING hdmi on consumers...even the 99% w/o hdmi capable tvs...

meanwhile ms offers the OPTION to have it if you're in the 1% who has it....

you guys are weird...

honestly u guys are whacko, ur not trying to think my way. go ahead manufacture blu-dragon on a single dvd9 u wouldnt get a complete game!! ur missing two discs. 500,000 ends up turning to 1,500,000 becuz of the size of the game.filipinothunder

[QUOTE="SuperMouse1986"]How do you people know dvd-9 cost .$0.30? Where are you guys getting that information? are you people just pulling it up yah arse?rappid_rabbit

[QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"]You cant be serious? Its a sad state of the world when you people cant do simple arithmetic

500,000 UNITS (1 GAME = 1 UNIT)

It will take 3 DVD9 discs to = 1 GAME (AGAIN for those that are slower, 1 UNIT)

at 0.30 a disc...it will take $0.90, to produce ONE GAME (1 UNIT)

at $1.49 to make the same amount of units, (500,000)

You multiply $1.49 x 500,000

and $0.90 x 500,000

What dont you understand?

Self-Ownage indeed...filipinothunder

i love the ps3 and i love the 360... but dude seriously just stop.. your math is horrendous you have no idea!  by your logic you think one dvd9 cost $0.90 and thats why your math it totally off.  one dvd9 disc actually cost $0.30.  just do your entire mathove using $0.30 instead ok champ.  People in here are really bad at math..and not just any math... like seriously 3rd grade math.  I'm not kidding, 3rd graders accomplish more complex math problems then the ones in this thread and some people have already failed to solve a simple math problem.  I've said it many times and I'll say it again, I fear for the new youth of the U.S... 

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.ChiChiMonKilla

You are full of sh!t dvd 8.5 media does not cost .30 cent !!!

honestly u guys are whacko, ur not trying to think my way. go ahead manufacture blu-dragon on a single dvd9 u wouldnt get a complete game!! ur missing two discs. 500,000 ends up turning to 1,500,000 becuz of the size of the game.filipinothunder

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]honestly u guys are whacko, ur not trying to think my way. go ahead manufacture blu-dragon on a single dvd9 u wouldnt get a complete game!! ur missing two discs. 500,000 ends up turning to 1,500,000 becuz of the size of the game.Kook18

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.ChiChiMonKilla

You are full of sh!t dvd 8.5 media does not cost .30 cent !!!

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]i kno dvd9s are cheaper, but it would be cheaper in the end if u put on blu-ray becuz it could fit it all on one disc.dhjohns

You are full of sh!t dvd 8.5 media does not cost .30 cent !!!

[QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="filipinothunder"]honestly u guys are whacko, ur not trying to think my way. go ahead manufacture blu-dragon on a single dvd9 u wouldnt get a complete game!! ur missing two discs. 500,000 ends up turning to 1,500,000 becuz of the size of the game.filipinothunder

You mean the link for single layer dvd's lol  

u guys are failing to get the point!!!! if u wanted to make 500,000 copies of blue dragon u'd need 1,500,000 copies of dvd9s BECUZ 3 discs= one game!! r u stupid!!!!!!!!!

so .90 x 1,500,000= $1,300,000

if u put blue dragon on a single layered 25gb disc

1.49 x 500,000(cuz blu-ray has better storage) = 745,000filipinothunder

omg!!! dude seriously just shut up.  let me expain it to you as simply as possible.  

You want to make 500,000 copies.

One game packaged with all of the 3 games already in it cost $0.90

 so put both together and what do you get?

ANSWER:  $0.90 x 500,000 =  $450,000.

There!  Still I have a feeling you won't understand this given your current IQ level so I'll try to break it down further.

Where do you think I'm getting $0.90 from?

ANSWER:  1 dvd9 alone cost $0.30.  put 3 of them together and you get $0.30 x 3 = $0.90

If don't understand these basic math skills, please don't bother with college...since my 3rd grade nieces and newphews understand such simple arithmetic.  Plese do not reply again trying to counter this because it's right... I'm a Calc 2 student so not knowing such simple math like the one in this entire thread would seem like I'm wasting my time in college, but I'm not because I am right...  nuff said.  Please go see a tutor

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]u guys are failing to get the point!!!! if u wanted to make 500,000 copies of blue dragon u'd need 1,500,000 copies of dvd9s BECUZ 3 discs= one game!! r u stupid!!!!!!!!!

so .90 x 1,500,000= $1,300,000

if u put blue dragon on a single layered 25gb disc

1.49 x 500,000(cuz blu-ray has better storage) = 745,000Rage010101

omg!!! dude seriously just shut up. let me expain it to you as simply as possible.

You want to make 500,000 copies.

One game packaged with all of the 3 games already in it cost $0.90

so put both together and what do you get?

ANSWER: $0.90 x 500,000 = $450,000.

There! Still I have a feeling you won't understand this given your current IQ level so I'll try to break it down further.

Where do you think I'm getting $0.90 from?

ANSWER: 1 dvd9 alone cost $0.30. put 3 of them together and you get $0.30 x 3 = $0.90

If don't understand these basic math skills, please don't bother with college...since my 3rd grade nieces and newphews understand such simple arithmetic. Plese do not reply again trying to counter this because it's right... I'm a Calc 2 student so not knowing such simple math like the one in this entire thread would seem like I'm wasting my time in college, but I'm not because I am right... nuff said. Please go see a tutor

yup im owned. lmao, ok yes i admit im wrong. 4 sum reason i kept adding .90 x 1,500,000 copies.. but then i membered .90=3 discs

mhuahahahaha

FILIPINO THUNDER= SELF OWNAGE APPROVED :)filipinothunder

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

Let the heavens rejoice.....  :lol: at least we can stop argueing now.

but honestly though blu-ray is the future-- one i can agree with hastings. you know blu-ray isn't always going to cost so much in terms of manufacturing. the dvd was just as expensive when it came out, overall i think down the road u'll reap the beneifts of blu-rayfilipinothunder

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

im a moron

Sargeras9

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]u guys are failing to get the point!!!! if u wanted to make 500,000 copies of blue dragon u'd need 1,500,000 copies of dvd9s BECUZ 3 discs= one game!! r u stupid!!!!!!!!!

so .90 x 1,500,000= $1,300,000

if u put blue dragon on a single layered 25gb disc

1.49 x 500,000(cuz blu-ray has better storage) = 745,000Rage010101

omg!!! dude seriously just shut up. let me expain it to you as simply as possible.

You want to make 500,000 copies.

One game packaged with all of the 3 games already in it cost $0.90

so put both together and what do you get?

ANSWER: $0.90 x 500,000 = $450,000.

There! Still I have a feeling you won't understand this given your current IQ level so I'll try to break it down further.

Where do you think I'm getting $0.90 from?

ANSWER: 1 dvd9 alone cost $0.30. put 3 of them together and you get $0.30 x 3 = $0.90

If don't understand these basic math skills, please don't bother with college...since my 3rd grade nieces and newphews understand such simple arithmetic. Plese do not reply again trying to counter this because it's right... I'm a Calc 2 student so not knowing such simple math like the one in this entire thread would seem like I'm wasting my time in college, but I'm not because I am right... nuff said. Please go see a tutor

Blank dvd 9 disc cost .90 cent per disc in bulk

So it's .90 x 3 = 2.70 for blue dragon

If you can find dvd 8.5 media for .30 please show me a link. 

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]u guys are failing to get the point!!!! if u wanted to make 500,000 copies of blue dragon u'd need 1,500,000 copies of dvd9s BECUZ 3 discs= one game!! r u stupid!!!!!!!!!

so .90 x 1,500,000= $1,300,000

if u put blue dragon on a single layered 25gb disc

1.49 x 500,000(cuz blu-ray has better storage) = 745,000ChiChiMonKilla

omg!!! dude seriously just shut up. let me expain it to you as simply as possible.

You want to make 500,000 copies.

One game packaged with all of the 3 games already in it cost $0.90

so put both together and what do you get?

ANSWER: $0.90 x 500,000 = $450,000.

There! Still I have a feeling you won't understand this given your current IQ level so I'll try to break it down further.

Where do you think I'm getting $0.90 from?

ANSWER: 1 dvd9 alone cost $0.30. put 3 of them together and you get $0.30 x 3 = $0.90

If don't understand these basic math skills, please don't bother with college...since my 3rd grade nieces and newphews understand such simple arithmetic. Plese do not reply again trying to counter this because it's right... I'm a Calc 2 student so not knowing such simple math like the one in this entire thread would seem like I'm wasting my time in college, but I'm not because I am right... nuff said. Please go see a tutor

Blank dvd 9 disc cost .90 cent per disc in bulk

So it's .90 x 3 = 2.70 for blue dragon

If you can find dvd 8.5 media for .30 please show me a link.

this mathematics thing is almost as funny as that one guy who said Einstein and Hitler were a 100 years apart in history or something like that a few months ago. :PKook18

[QUOTE="filipinothunder"]yup im owned. lmao, ok yes i admit im wrong. 4 sum reason i kept adding .90 x 1,500,000 copies.. but then i membered .90=3 discs

mhuahahahaha

FILIPINO THUNDER= SELF OWNAGE APPROVED :)rappid_rabbit

Agreed. It was great that Filipino admitted to the self-ownage.

I'm still curious about the other guy's response.