Why the Xbox360 already losing the war to PS3?

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#1 Socrates88
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I think this question will upset some, but the truth never goes down easy. I won't bash the 360 because that's not my style, but I will show some logical points on why the Xbox360 losing the war to the PS3 already.

Logic 1: Brand loyalty. How much bad news has Sony been getting lately? Even was ranked up there as one of the worst hyped electronic gear of the year. Wow...this system should not be selling with a claim like that. However, it is selling. Faster than Xbox360, PS1, PS2, and Dreamcast had ever did. How is it still selling with such negative aura around it? Brand loyalty. You can call them blind, dumb, or just plain ignorant consumers, but you know, and I know that they will continue to buy the Playstation brand.

Logic 2: Future proof. Waitstation 3? Wait Beyond? Wait until...? Since when waiting become a bad thing? I never knew all the AAA titles were release on one certain day. If I'm not mistaking, but doesn't a console lifespan last about 5-8 years? Hasn't all major consoles before this gen, saw the majority of there great games at the peak or decline of it's lifetime? How is PS3 beating the Xbox360 in preparing for the future? Blu-ray player, HDMI, Wi-fi, free on-line, and a standard HDD that can be replace. In 3 years did you know that every TV station and television in America has to be digital and no longer analog? Seems like the optional 360 choices will become standard. I think MS kinda knew this was coming. What was it called? The Zephry? It's like a PS3 without the HD disc drive.

Logic 3: Games. So 360 has the better library? Is it so good that you would start a petition to take a exclusive game from the PS3? Tell me how good is that? The last 3 months there been rumor mills of DMC4, FFXIII, MGS4, Tekken 6, and Okami. Why so many rumors of these games losing their exclusive rights? If the 360 has better games than the PS3, why do you want their exclusives? How many rumors you hear about Mass Effect, Alan Wake, GeoW coming to the PS3? Not enough to see it being typed up of an article or on a major gaming website. You know why? It's because PS3 has the games, and your rumors proves it. Sony built an empire of support for it's PS brand, and MS is at a stage where the PS1 once was; however, there can not be equal share of developers on all consoles. That's not how the business work. Once the flair of the PS2 goes down, the brand loyalty of the PS fans well jump ship with the PS3, and where the consumer goes the developers goes.

There are other logical factors on why PS3 will beat out 360: more experience, better success in Japan and Europe, definitive system, etc... I wanted to share the main three. Nothing I'm saying is a lie. You can research all this on the internet or by personal experience. There is just too many logical reason of PS3 winning than the PS3 losing. Sorry for typing too much, but I want to thank you for everyone who took the time out to read it.
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#2 Pope_3000
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Nobody cares go play it instead of cannonizing it.
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#3 nnavidson
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I'm sorry but everything that you took the time to post doesn't show that the 360 is losing to the PS3.  Systems sold show the PS3 is losing to 360 and Wii, and besides expectations of the Playstation brand, no evidence is available to show that the PS3 will be winning anytime soon.
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#4 Socrates88
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I'm sorry but everything that you took the time to post doesn't show that the 360 is losing to the PS3. Systems sold show the PS3 is losing to 360 and Wii, and besides expectations of the Playstation brand, no evidence is available to show that the PS3 will be winning anytime soon.nnavidson
You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.
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#5 cabjnico
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Halleluiah! We've found another soothsayer in the forums!
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#6 Portmanteau
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You could've simply written "Final Fantasy XIII" and gotten the same point across.
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#7 turgore
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Umm...it's too long . I won't read it. You wasted your time.
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#8 NY_Yankees_FTW
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You could've simply written "Final Fantasy XIII" and gotten the same point across.Portmanteau
You could've simply written "Final Fantasy XIII" and gotten the same point across.Portmanteau
actually :lol: poor guy
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#9 Portmanteau
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[QUOTE="Portmanteau"]You could've simply written "Final Fantasy XIII" and gotten the same point across.NY_Yankees_FTW
actually :lol: poor guy


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Despite the fact that what you posted made no sense, I'm just going to assume you're making fun of that post.

Meh. That's why we have opinions.

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#10 cabjnico
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Final Fantasy is a love-or-hate kind of game. I'm on the hate side-- i hate that kind of games- telling my metrosexual (admit it!) characters what to do instead of doing that myself
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#11 Socrates88
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Umm...it's too long . I won't read it. You wasted your time.turgore
I'm sorry. I think attention span are very short here.
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#12 Socrates88
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This thread will get buried, lol. Good point threads seem to be lost, while the troll topics gets 10 pages worth of self proclaimed ownage.
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#13 Portmanteau
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[QUOTE="cabjnico"]Final Fantasy is a love-or-hate kind of game. I'm on the hate side-- i hate that kind of games- telling my metrosexual (admit it!) characters what to do instead of doing that myself

I think that applies to a good percentage of Console RPGs, not just Final Fantasy.
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#14 Buff-McBlumpkin
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It's not already beating the 360. Do you even understand what "already" means ("Already" would mean it would ALREADY have to be outselling it.)

Not only that - there hasn't even been a month where the PS3 has outsold it - and systems are typically the "Hottest" around their launch time buzz. Hell, the PS2 sold a million in its first weekend in Japan only - and now retailers are struglling to push PS3 off store shelves. Hardly the same situation, is it?

Dumbest thread in a long time.

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#15 cabjnico
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[QUOTE="Portmanteau"][QUOTE="cabjnico"]Final Fantasy is a love-or-hate kind of game. I'm on the hate side-- i hate that kind of games- telling my metrosexual (admit it!) characters what to do instead of doing that myself

I think that applies to a good percentage of Console RPGs, not just Final Fantasy.

yep, that's why i said kind of games, not specifically final fantasy
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#16 Cubs360
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January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!
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It's not already beating the 360. Do you even understand what "already" means.

Not only that - there hasn't even been a month where the PS3 has outsold it - and systems are typically the "Hottest" around their launch time buzz. Hell, the PS2 sold a million in its first weekend in Japan only - and now retailers are struglling to push PS3 off store shelves. Hardly the same situation, is it?

Dumbest thread in a long time.

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Speaking of Japan it outsold the Xbox360 in 2 weeks. Also, PS2 only sold 700,000 in it's first week. The only dumb thing a human can do is to past off a opinion as fact without any proof.
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!

yeah, and consider this isnt because of production problems. ps3s seem to be fairly readily available at stores and online, and on ebay for at or a bit below retail.
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#19 Portmanteau
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It's not already beating the 360. Do you even understand what "already" means.

Not only that - there hasn't even been a month where the PS3 has outsold it - and systems are typically the "Hottest" around their launch time buzz. Hell, the PS2 sold a million in its first weekend in Japan only - and now retailers are struglling to push PS3 off store shelves. Hardly the same situation, is it?

Dumbest thread in a long time.

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I disagree. There is no competition. People will buy what they want to buy. I bought a Wii because I like Mario, Metroid, and Zelda games. I bought a PS3 because I wanted to play Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy. People buy 360s because they want to play Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect.

In that sense, there is no competition. Nintendo has a niche market. They stick to a few characters, or a few series that have already established themselves, and instead improve there. Sony has a huge collection of a wide variety of games, everything from Shmups to RPGs, and good ones at that. The Xbox has shooters, RPGs, and plenty of other games.

But each system has its own strengths.

Nintendo's strengths are its few niche titles. Sony's strengths are the RPGs and Action-Adventures. The 360's strengths are shooters. It's not opinion, it's fact. People don't buy a Wii for some spectacular looking FPS, people don't buy PS3s for the one or two series that have already been established, and people don't buy 360s for some 200 million-hour long RPG.

There is no real competition, aside from the corporate catfight.
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 In 3 years did you know that every TV station and television in America has to be digital and no longer analog?
Socrates88

LOL!:lol: Yeah once I read this I knew you were full of ****. I actually work at a digital HD facility and although analog is dying out it will never go away. And HD is still 5 to 10 years away from becoming standard. You fail buddy.

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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!

You right this thread is only about sales. No matter how you turn it or spin it The war has just started. Also, those number don't match up to the NPD numbers. Who are you quoting?
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#22 Buff-McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!Socrates88
You right this thread is only about sales. No matter how you turn it or spin it The war has just started. Also, those number don't match up to the NPD numbers. Who are you quoting?

OK, then what is it about?

SALES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

GAMES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.  

BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

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[QUOTE="Socrates88"]
In 3 years did you know that every TV station and television in America has to be digital and no longer analog?
MentatAssassin

LOL!:lol: Yeah once I read this I knew you were full of ****. I actually work at a digital HD facility and although analog is dying out it will never go away. And HD is still 5 to 10 years away from becoming standard. You fail buddy.

Link Link Where do you work at? I guess news is very slow there. Do I still fail?
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Digital cable is FAR different from HD digital cable.

Most people who have digital cable do in fact have standard definition digital cable - not HD digital cable. Digital just describes the method in which way it is transmitted to your house - not the quality of the signal. Digital just tends to get better reception. People will still be able to use their old ass CRT sets for digital cable.

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[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!Buff-McBlumpkin

You right this thread is only about sales. No matter how you turn it or spin it The war has just started. Also, those number don't match up to the NPD numbers. Who are you quoting?

OK, then what is it about?

SALES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

GAMES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

It's about gameplanning. PS3 already beat the Xbox360 by having a better gameplan. Sure it's losing in sales Xbox been out a year longer than it has. Same with the games. PS3 is just playing catch up, and doing a great job at it.
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I dont car. The 360 will still beat the ps3, no matter how loyal you are to sony.
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#27 vidiofreak
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I think this question will upset some, but the truth never goes down easy. I won't bash the 360 because that's not my style, but I will show some logical points on why the Xbox360 losing the war to the PS3 already.

Logic 1: Brand loyalty. How much bad news has Sony been getting lately? Even was ranked up there as one of the worst hyped electronic gear of the year. Wow...this system should not be selling with a claim like that. However, it is selling. Faster than Xbox360, PS1, PS2, and Dreamcast had ever did. How is it still selling with such negative aura around it? Brand loyalty. You can call them blind, dumb, or just plain ignorant consumers, but you know, and I know that they will continue to buy the Playstation brand.

Logic 2: Future proof. Waitstation 3? Wait Beyond? Wait until...? Since when waiting become a bad thing? I never knew all the AAA titles were release on one certain day. If I'm not mistaking, but doesn't a console lifespan last about 5-8 years? Hasn't all major consoles before this gen, saw the majority of there great games at the peak or decline of it's lifetime? How is PS3 beating the Xbox360 in preparing for the future? Blu-ray player, HDMI, Wi-fi, free on-line, and a standard HDD that can be replace. In 3 years did you know that every TV station and television in America has to be digital and no longer analog? Seems like the optional 360 choices will become standard. I think MS kinda knew this was coming. What was it called? The Zephry? It's like a PS3 without the HD disc drive.

Logic 3: Games. So 360 has the better library? Is it so good that you would start a petition to take a exclusive game from the PS3? Tell me how good is that? The last 3 months there been rumor mills of DMC4, FFXIII, MGS4, Tekken 6, and Okami. Why so many rumors of these games losing their exclusive rights? If the 360 has better games than the PS3, why do you want their exclusives? How many rumors you hear about Mass Effect, Alan Wake, GeoW coming to the PS3? Not enough to see it being typed up of an article or on a major gaming website. You know why? It's because PS3 has the games, and your rumors proves it. Sony built an empire of support for it's PS brand, and MS is at a stage where the PS1 once was; however, there can not be equal share of developers on all consoles. That's not how the business work. Once the flair of the PS2 goes down, the brand loyalty of the PS fans well jump ship with the PS3, and where the consumer goes the developers goes.

There are other logical factors on why PS3 will beat out 360: more experience, better success in Japan and Europe, definitive system, etc... I wanted to share the main three. Nothing I'm saying is a lie. You can research all this on the internet or by personal experience. There is just too many logical reason of PS3 winning than the PS3 losing. Sorry for typing too much, but I want to thank you for everyone who took the time out to read it.
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lol, You basically just typed a bunch of poop.
[QUOTE="nnavidson"]I'm sorry but everything that you took the time to post doesn't show that the 360 is losing to the PS3. Systems sold show the PS3 is losing to 360 and Wii, and besides expectations of the Playstation brand, no evidence is available to show that the PS3 will be winning anytime soon.Socrates88
You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.

So basically, microsoft is winning on the field, but sony has good practices. So even though sony has good practices, microsoft is still winning on the field. And im pretty into sports. So i know good practice will follow with a good game on the field. But, winning on the field constantly will teach you better than having a good practice then going out and getting your butt whooped
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#28 ff7isnumbaone
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BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

Buff-McBlumpkin
different technology you monkey. They had to be more careful about how much they manufacture so they dont wont them to break like the 360s. More consoles, more defective ones. Less consoles, more durable consoles. And for all you lemmings that think this thread stupid its basically saying that ps3 is winning because sony planned for the future better than 360 did.
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Digital cable is FAR different from HD digital cable.

Most people who have digital cable do in fact have standard definition digital cable - not HD digital cable. Digital just describes the method in which way it is transmitted to your house - not the quality of the signal. Digital just tends to get better reception. People will still be able to use their old ass CRT sets for digital cable.

Buff-McBlumpkin
You right. CRT don't need an upgrade...It's only going to set a new standard for television. Cable knows the people still have analog as of today, but the change will happen in 2010. Say goodbye to digital hook-up with your analog TV.
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#30 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

ff7isnumbaone
different technology you monkey. They had to be more careful about how much they manufacture so they dont wont them to break like the 360s. More consoles, more defective ones. Less consoles, more durable consoles. And for all you lemmings that think this thread stupid its basically saying that ps3 is winning because sony planned for the future better than 360 did.

You noticw they not taking up the issue at hand? Instead they say we winning now! or It's too long to read. Don't worry it will be force feed to them what I was saying, soon.
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#31 Buff-McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!Socrates88

You right this thread is only about sales. No matter how you turn it or spin it The war has just started. Also, those number don't match up to the NPD numbers. Who are you quoting?

OK, then what is it about?

SALES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

GAMES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

It's about gameplanning. PS3 already beat the Xbox360 by having a better gameplan. Sure it's losing in sales Xbox been out a year longer than it has. Same with the games. PS3 is just playing catch up, and doing a great job at it.

Then you worded the title poorly. "Already" winning is a Hell of a lot different than "Will win," which is what you meant to say.

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again.. if you don't want to look like a fool, don't use the words "fact" and "truth" where you mean "hope" and "opinion"
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#33 Socrates88
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Then you worded the title poorly. "Already" winning is a Hell of a lot different than "Will win," which is what you meant to say.

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I think this is the first time I ever been arguing over the Topic title and not the topic. Isn't "winning" means that is has not won? So in saying 'will win" and "winning" is the same thing. You emphasis "Already" to actually holds no time what so ever. Why waste your time on such lame matters?
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Logic one is sound IMO. Logic two is flawed. Consumers only buy on what is available now. They don't know or care about future releases or even have a basic understanding of how the gaming industry works same way they are oblivious to Sony's failings with the PS3. It is that simple. Only hardcore or regular gamers have any idea of that side of thing and they are a minority, a niche in this market. The most sales come from people who will buy whatever is popular already and has a game they like available for it. The general public doesn't like to buy potential. Logic three is extremely flawed as it is basically a system wars argument. That argument does not effect the majority of the market. The majority of the market would buy a good GTA clone if all their friends had it and said it rocked. The average gamer is an idiot who buys based on what is popular. The PS3 claim to fame is that people like to knock pretty much everything about it. The average gamer is too stupid to work that out but they are intelligent enough to ask someone who did look that up (aka the resident nerd) and find out that GTA is coming to 360 and that it costs less etc...)
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#35 Deiuos
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Be more specific -- losing the war in what? 

If we're talking sales, the numerous charts and numbers currently available speak for themselves.  You can make a topic on how it's possible that the 360 could, in the long-run, "lose" to the Playstation 3, but I am personally interested in the chances from the current stand of both consoles.
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#36 Buff-McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

Then you worded the title poorly. "Already" winning is a Hell of a lot different than "Will win," which is what you meant to say.

Socrates88

I think this is the first time I ever been arguing over the Topic title and not the topic. Isn't "winning" means that is has not won? So in saying 'will win" and "winning" is the same thing. You emphasis "Already" to actually holds no time what so ever. Why waste your time on such lame matters?

Because your entire topic was explaining how the PS3 is ALREADY winning when it is in fact not currently winning in any sense of the word. You're saying they're "already winning" because they have a better gameplan but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it does however make sense to say that because of their better gameplan they will win despite the fact that they are currently losing.

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#37 Raidea
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You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.Socrates88


You have got to be kidding me. Sony has a better game plan than MS? What a rediculous statement!

Sony has got 3 things going for it this generation, Brand Loyalty, Major Exclusives and First Party. All which have come off the back of their previous consoles.

Their strategy this generation has been terrible, have you not seen the constant press critisism? No doubt they will do well because they are Sony, but as for a game plan...they seem to be flying on the seat of their pants right now, and a plan seems like the last thing they have!

Honestly, you fanboys come out with the most rediculous stuff sometimes.
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#38 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="brim4brim"]Logic one is sound IMO. Logic two is flawed. Consumers only buy on what is available now. They don't know or care about future releases or even have a basic understanding of how the gaming industry works same way they are oblivious to Sony's failings with the PS3. It is that simple. Only hardcore or regular gamers have any idea of that side of thing and they are a minority, a niche in this market. The most sales come from people who will buy whatever is popular already and has a game they like available for it. The general public doesn't like to buy potential. Logic three is extremely flawed as it is basically a system wars argument. That argument does not effect the majority of the market. The majority of the market would buy a good GTA clone if all their friends had it and said it rocked. The average gamer is an idiot who buys based on what is popular. The PS3 claim to fame is that people like to knock pretty much everything about it. The average gamer is too stupid to work that out but they are intelligent enough to ask someone who did look that up (aka the resident nerd) and find out that GTA is coming to 360 and that it costs less etc...)

Very nice. I actually agree with some of what you saying. There was a line I put in my sentences that may sound clearer to you know than before."The PS3 has more logical reasons of winning than losing". Sure there are some logical point of view to see the PS3 fall, but I still see them with a better gamplan than MS. No my logica is not flawed, you my not agree with it, but it's not flawed.
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#39 subrosian
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This thread will get buried, lol. Good point threads seem to be lost, while the troll topics gets 10 pages worth of self proclaimed ownage.Socrates88
This isn't a "good thread" because he's failed to remember that the PS1 and PS2 sales figures were limited by a short supply, the PS3 has NOT outsold its supply. In any case stating the obvious "brand loyalty", "future proofing", and "games" doesn't mean anything. Has the PS3 caught up with the Xbox 360 in terms of global sales? No. Will it? Maybe. Whether or not the PS3 is a *better* system is an individual matter - however at $500+ for a system Sony is severely limiting their market. As Sony themselves has pointed out, the first five million systems or so are going to sell *regardless* of price - the other 95 million I imagine are going to be about the price coming down. If the PS3 came down to $200 would it win the system war? Yes. Playstation brand name, Blu-Ray, free online, it wins the war - at its current price? No.
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#40 demoralizer
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The PS3 isn't failing nor is it flop. But ummmm....... no it's not beating the 360 nor is the 360 losing. Why can't cows just be satisfied with the truth, exaggerated overstatement.

Where is logic in spending top dollar for a console you have to wait to reach its full potential, when a price drop will most likely come when PS3 is in it's stride?

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#41 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="Socrates88"]You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.Raidea


You have got to be kidding me. Sony has a better game plan than MS? What a ridiculous statement!

Sony has got 3 things going for it this generation, Brand Loyalty, Major Exclusives and First Party. All which have come off the back of their previous consoles.

Their strategy this generation has been terrible, have you not seen the constant press critisism? No doubt they will do well because they are Sony, but as for a game plan...they seem to be flying on the seat of their pants right now, and a plan seems like the last thing they have!

Honestly, you fanboys come out with the most ridiculous stuff sometimes.

Show me a article where Sony made a board decision, and hurt them negatively.
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#42 Grodus5
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I kinda laughed at the brand loyality.  If the fans were so loyal, both the PSP and the PS3 would be killing everyone in everyway, but its not happening!  They lost all the loyality when the Flop Station flopped!
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#43 Sensui1986
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It would be quite funny if PS3 would win only trough brand loyalty. Cause it's in no case the better console: - the game lineup for Xbox360 is better, well it is IMO. - Xbox live is better - Graphics are about the same, by that I mean that there is no difference that's worth 200$ extra. - And if I want movies of great quality, I won't buy something for blu-ray... I'll just go to the cinema for even more quality and a lower price. The only thing Sony has more then the other consoles is brand loyalty, though a lot have switched allready, but still Sony is gonna sell a LOT just because of this feature.
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#44 mlbslugger86
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Cubs360"]January 2007 sales for North America 360 300,000 Ps3 240,000 Thread is done for!Socrates88

You right this thread is only about sales. No matter how you turn it or spin it The war has just started. Also, those number don't match up to the NPD numbers. Who are you quoting?

OK, then what is it about?

SALES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

GAMES: Right now the PS3 is ALREADY losing.

BRAND LOYALTY: Right now the PS3 ia ALREADY losing (1 million PS2 were sold in its launch weekend in JAPAN only, and now in its launch window it's struggling to break 230,000 a month while units are freely available on shelves.)

It's about gameplanning. PS3 already beat the Xbox360 by having a better gameplan. Sure it's losing in sales Xbox been out a year longer than it has. Same with the games. PS3 is just playing catch up, and doing a great job at it.

what better gameplan?most of the people waiting on line for the playstation 3 were mostly there so they can sell them on ebay for god sakes.and 600 dollars for a system?just because sony needed a platform to push blu-ray?.and it was also their gameplan to delay every major game till at least fall 2007?.playstation 3 is losing badly.

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#45 vidiofreak
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[QUOTE="Socrates88"]You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.Raidea


You have got to be kidding me. Sony has a better game plan than MS? What a rediculous statement!

Sony has got 3 things going for it this generation, Brand Loyalty, Major Exclusives and First Party. All which have come off the back of their previous consoles.

Their strategy this generation has been terrible, have you not seen the constant press critisism? No doubt they will do well because they are Sony, but as for a game plan...they seem to be flying on the seat of their pants right now, and a plan seems like the last thing they have!

Honestly, you fanboys come out with the most rediculous stuff sometimes.

Your 100% right. PS3 fanboys are weird. Their logic and reasoning make no sence.
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#46 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Socrates88"]You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.Socrates88


You have got to be kidding me. Sony has a better game plan than MS? What a ridiculous statement!

Sony has got 3 things going for it this generation, Brand Loyalty, Major Exclusives and First Party. All which have come off the back of their previous consoles.

Their strategy this generation has been terrible, have you not seen the constant press critisism? No doubt they will do well because they are Sony, but as for a game plan...they seem to be flying on the seat of their pants right now, and a plan seems like the last thing they have!

Honestly, you fanboys come out with the most ridiculous stuff sometimes.

Show me a article where Sony made a board decision, and hurt them negatively.

Here's a good one. Just last week--the decision to not include the Emotion Engine in European PS3's. This hurts backward compatibility--one of Sony's original selling points. Here's a reputable source covering the story.
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#47 the-very-best
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Good post. I don't think we'll have to wait past mid 2008 before we see Sony take the lead again.
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#48 Paper_Knife
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I'm sorry but everything that you took the time to post doesn't show that the 360 is losing to the PS3.  Systems sold show the PS3 is losing to 360 and Wii, and besides expectations of the Playstation brand, no evidence is available to show that the PS3 will be winning anytime soon.nnavidson

actually, the public has spent more money on thr ps3 than the 360 in this last month. the only reason the 360 has sold more is because it is cheap.

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#49 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Socrates88"]You don't win the game on the field, but on the practice field. Sony has a better game plan than MS. This is what I'm trying to say.vidiofreak


You have got to be kidding me. Sony has a better game plan than MS? What a rediculous statement!

Sony has got 3 things going for it this generation, Brand Loyalty, Major Exclusives and First Party. All which have come off the back of their previous consoles.

Their strategy this generation has been terrible, have you not seen the constant press critisism? No doubt they will do well because they are Sony, but as for a game plan...they seem to be flying on the seat of their pants right now, and a plan seems like the last thing they have!

Honestly, you fanboys come out with the most rediculous stuff sometimes.

Your 100% right. PS3 fanboys are weird. Their logic and reasoning make no sence.

That's the best you can do? Attack my character instead of the topic? lol... You were better off not posting at all.
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#50 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

It's not already beating the 360. Do you even understand what "already" means.

Not only that - there hasn't even been a month where the PS3 has outsold it - and systems are typically the "Hottest" around their launch time buzz. Hell, the PS2 sold a million in its first weekend in Japan only - and now retailers are struglling to push PS3 off store shelves. Hardly the same situation, is it?

Dumbest thread in a long time.

Socrates88

Speaking of Japan it outsold the Xbox360 in 2 weeks. Also, PS2 only sold 700,000 in it's first week. The only dumb thing a human can do is to past off a opinion as fact without any proof.

No, PS2 sold over 1 million its first week

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html