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#1 RogueGoose
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OKay I've seen a lot of threads about how M$ is lame because we have to pay for Live and all, but not one ever talks about why we pay for it... We have to pay for Live because they keep all of the Movies, TV Shows, Music Videos, Demos, Gamerpictures, Themes, and Patchs for games on there servers... Thats what they have to update when they update the whole system...

Now What seems to be completely Insane is the fact that Silver accounts can download any of that stuff that they want (If its free or the they pay the M$ points for the thing), but they can't play Online against other people... Now that Makes no sense becuase Microsoft does not have to do anything with the Online Games... All of the Online Gameplay is Run P2P so Microsoft does not have to keep up servers or anything for it... Its all run off of everyones Internet Provider... I could imagine having to pay to keep up the stats for all the games, but thats not Microsoft either... thats up to each game developer... Bungie keeps all the HD Pictures that you take on there Server space... they keep all the Kill to Death Stats on there Servers... Same with everything else you can track with Bungie.net...

Now becuase we are already paying for M$ to keep up there servers with the stuff that we can download... Why the **** do we have to pay CRAZY amounts for it... They charge Money FOR PICTURES... that take less the 50 KB to store we have to pay 50-120 Microsoft Points... We have to Pay 800 Microsoft points for New Maps (Microsoft Decides how much to charge for everything on the Marketplace) which Microsoft did nothing for... They are only storing it on there Servers which we are already being charged for... I'd be okay if the money went all To Game Devlopers, but it does not...

We are paying for stuff that most people (EVERYONE on my friends list... No one Downloads Movies, or TV's Shows... And those are what take up the most space) don't even use... Thanks for thinking it through M$...

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#2 Pietrooper
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Indeed. They already charge for the downloads, why are they then charging a subcription fee for P2P online gaming?
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#3 heretrix
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Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

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#4 samiup
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maybe the real COWS are the 360 owners, M$ is milking the %$#$%# out of em ... LoL
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#5 RogueGoose
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Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

heretrix

So you like to Pay for Stuff that you can Find on the Computer for FREE... You can find Videos, Demos, Songs, and Most Importantly Pictures on the Computer for FREE... WTF IS M$ CHARGING FOR... MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY ARE WE PAYING TWO TIMES OVER FOR EVERYTHING...

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#6 Bigboi500
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I have a silver account and like it because: a) my connection is slower b) i don't care for online multi-player.
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#7 Dante2710
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Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

heretrix
lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...
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#8 Deihmos
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These kind of threads pop up more than the PC dying / not dying threads. Why does anyone have to explain why they pay for anything. It's your money.
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#9 ColoradoKindBud
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It's a good service. And MS already has all the netcode in place, (and pretty stable netcode as well), so that devs can just easily incorporate online play into their games whereas on other systems, it's more work for them & the devs have to host the servers themselves. It's totally worth it.
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#10 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

Dante2710

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

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#11 Cbok
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Indeed. I cant help but laugh at every lemming who tries to justify it. The only things that PSN charge for is games and game content.
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#12 RogueGoose
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These kind of threads pop up more than the PC dying / not dying threads. Why does anyone have to explain why they pay for anything. It's your money.Deihmos

microsoft Has to Explain why we are Paying Twice for it...I'm fine paying once... I think its worth it because I can play we friends a LOt... But why The **** do I have to Pay Twice for it...

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#13 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

RogueGoose

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

errrrr.....if you think your paying for nothing....then stop paying ....im not here to guide you through steps like your a new born.....do some research and find the features xbl offers......this threads are getting real old
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#14 sambalimbo
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Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

heretrix

we are just trying to understand how people dont boycott this milkage thats all

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#15 sambalimbo
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maybe the real COWS are the 360 owners, M$ is milking the %$#$%# out of em ... LoLsamiup

xDD QFT

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#16 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

Dante2710

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

errrrr.....if you think your paying for nothing....then stop paying ....im not here to guide you through steps like your a new born.....do some research and find the features xbl offers......this threads are getting real old

"this threads are getting real old"... WTF does that mean...

Errrr... and I know what I'm paying for... I said what I'm paying for in the Original Post... Don't you READ??? And for those Poor Features a Don't see why M$ thinks they can charge people Twice... I'm not super Pissed about having to Pay for it because Frakly its not to much for me, but Lemming need to understand that Live is not the Best online Sevice out there... they offer Nothing GROUND BREAKING... Everything has been there before Live was around on the Computer... Lemmings have over run this board with there Faboy statements and its about time they understand what there saying is a Lie...

Live does not give you the best online experiance... Its all about the games and M$ just does not have them... One of the best online games for the 360 is Call of Duty 4, but thats Multiplate so that makes them Equal... M$ is not Dominating the Online Market...

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#17 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"]These kind of threads pop up more than the PC dying / not dying threads. Why does anyone have to explain why they pay for anything. It's your money.RogueGoose

microsoft Has to Explain why we are Paying Twice for it...I'm fine paying once... I think its worth it because I can play we friends a LOt... But why The **** do I have to Pay Twice for it...

WHat do you mean by pay twice. BTW all the stats are stored on microsoft servers not developers. The only developer that has the stats on their server is EA so they can shut them down when they like to force you to buy another copy.

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#18 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

RogueGoose

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

errrrr.....if you think your paying for nothing....then stop paying ....im not here to guide you through steps like your a new born.....do some research and find the features xbl offers......this threads are getting real old

"this threads are getting real old"... WTF does that mean...

Errrr... and I know what I'm paying for... I said what I'm paying for in the Original Post... Don't you READ??? And for those Poor Features a Don't see why M$ thinks they can charge people Twice... I'm not super Pissed about having to Pay for it because Frakly its not to much for me, but Lemming need to understand that Live is not the Best online Sevice out there... they offer Nothing GROUND BREAKING... Everything has been there before Live was around on the Computer... Lemmings have over run this board with there Faboy statements and its about time they understand what there saying is a Lie...

Live does not give you the best online experiance... Its all about the games and M$ just does not have them... One of the best online games for the 360 is Call of Duty 4, but thats Multiplate so that makes them Equal... M$ is not Dominating the Online Market...

your pretty much starting a flame war........if people think its worth paying xbl...then ****ing let them....they are having a good time. get over it.....seems like ur the one that wants to prove otherwise.......you are enjoying xbl......yet ur making this.....whether xbl is the best online experience out there or not...its none of my business.....as long as im getting what keeps me a happy gamer....i wont be having any problems or go around making threads like this.....if people think xbl is great...then whoopie doo.....stop trying to force your opinion on others
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#19 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

RogueGoose

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

errrrr.....if you think your paying for nothing....then stop paying ....im not here to guide you through steps like your a new born.....do some research and find the features xbl offers......this threads are getting real old

"this threads are getting real old"... WTF does that mean...

Errrr... and I know what I'm paying for... I said what I'm paying for in the Original Post... Don't you READ??? And for those Poor Features a Don't see why M$ thinks they can charge people Twice... I'm not super Pissed about having to Pay for it because Frakly its not to much for me, but Lemming need to understand that Live is not the Best online Sevice out there... they offer Nothing GROUND BREAKING... Everything has been there before Live was around on the Computer... Lemmings have over run this board with there Faboy statements and its about time they understand what there saying is a Lie...

Live does not give you the best online experiance... Its all about the games and M$ just does not have them... One of the best online games for the 360 is Call of Duty 4, but thats Multiplate so that makes them Equal... M$ is not Dominating the Online Market...

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

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#20 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]These kind of threads pop up more than the PC dying / not dying threads. Why does anyone have to explain why they pay for anything. It's your money.Deihmos

microsoft Has to Explain why we are Paying Twice for it...I'm fine paying once... I think its worth it because I can play we friends a LOt... But why The **** do I have to Pay Twice for it...

WHat do you mean by pay twice.

MAbye I did not make it Clear in the Original Post... Mabye it was somthing you had it infer, but no problem I will explain again...

With Live we have to pay the 5 buck a Month... that goes to keeping there servers up... what is run on there servers??? Games are not... that means that we pay for the storage of there Videos, Demos, Pictures, and Game Patches... While all of this is fine and dandy... Microsoft also charges us Microsoft Points for the Pictures, Videos (TV's Shows, Music Videos, Movies) and Microsoft also Charges us for Game patches with new Game Maps (Call of Duty, Halo 3)... Now I can understand the Game Patches with maps ( even thought the money should be going to the game developer... Microsoft desides how much they charge for them and some of that is for Storage)... But, Why are the charging us for Pictures that take up a Total of 50KB... I mean WTF M$...

All this adds up to use paying twice for them to store this date... P2P costs them nothing to run...

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#21 RogueGoose
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name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

ParadiddleFill

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

RogueGoose

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

okay, if your pc offers you what you want....then why are u paying for xbl in the first place? :?
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#23 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

"this threads are getting real old"... WTF does that mean...

Errrr... and I know what I'm paying for... I said what I'm paying for in the Original Post... Don't you READ??? And for those Poor Features a Don't see why M$ thinks they can charge people Twice... I'm not super Pissed about having to Pay for it because Frakly its not to much for me, but Lemming need to understand that Live is not the Best online Sevice out there... they offer Nothing GROUND BREAKING... Everything has been there before Live was around on the Computer... Lemmings have over run this board with there Faboy statements and its about time they understand what there saying is a Lie...

Live does not give you the best online experiance... Its all about the games and M$ just does not have them... One of the best online games for the 360 is Call of Duty 4, but thats Multiplate so that makes them Equal... M$ is not Dominating the Online Market...

Dante2710

your pretty much starting a flame war........if people think its worth paying xbl...then ****ing let them....they are having a good time. get over it.....seems like ur the one that wants to prove otherwise.......you are enjoying xbl......yet ur making this.....whether xbl is the best online experience out there or not...its none of my business.....as long as im getting what keeps me a happy gamer....i wont be having any problems or go around making threads like this.....if people think xbl is great...then whoopie doo.....stop trying to force your opinion on others

I'm trying to Inform people of something that I have noticed... Is that a Crime... Or do you think Ignorance is Bliss???

Edit: Wow... I'm not having luck with Quotes Today...

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#24 player_leo
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

RogueGoose

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

Maybe the best people to ask is M$, no system wars on GS

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#25 Deihmos
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It's a business. If you don't like it then don't pay for it. It's a subscription base service where they give you x amount of stuff free but leave something out hoping you will pay to upgrade your membership. Gamespot does something similiar and so does IGN and many other websites. That is the way subscriptions work but no one is forcing you to pay.

it's been the same model and price since 2002. Sometimes you think the concept is something new.

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

RogueGoose

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

but your pc is needs to connect to several online services in order to achieve what live does. The key word is integrated thats what live does best. One network for all of your media entertainment

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#27 sambalimbo
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

Dante2710

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

okay, if your pc offers you what you want....then why are u paying for xbl in the first place? :?

ms forces him to do so if he wants to do the same things he can do on the pc for free, if i was him i'd be pissed too, b/c thats called milkage

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#28 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

ParadiddleFill

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

but your pc is needs to connect to several online services in order to achieve what live does. The key word is integrated thats what live does best. One network for all of your media entertainment

Not If your going to a Good Website... You should be able to find everything on some of those Turrent (Don't know how to spell) Sites...

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#29 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

RogueGoose

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

but your pc is needs to connect to several online services in order to achieve what live does. The key word is integrated thats what live does best. One network for all of your media entertainment

Not If your going to a Good Website... You should be able to find everything on some of those Turrent (Don't know how to spell) Sites...

can you voice and video chat on a torrent site? no all you can do is download games and movies illegally i might add

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#30 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

player_leo

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

Maybe the best people to ask is M$, no system wars on GS

Its called being Informed... I'm sharing somthing that I've noticed with other people... Its like Newspapers... People Are not going to do anything about the war in Iraq... The best people to tell would be the President or the Solders, but people still like to hear about it...

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#31 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

ParadiddleFill

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

but your pc is needs to connect to several online services in order to achieve what live does. The key word is integrated thats what live does best. One network for all of your media entertainment

Not If your going to a Good Website... You should be able to find everything on some of those Turrent (Don't know how to spell) Sites...

can you voice and video chat on a torrent site? no all you can do is download games and movies illegally i might add

If you have good enough internet to use Live... Then your connection can handle you going to multiple sites and the same time...

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#32 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

sambalimbo

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

okay, if your pc offers you what you want....then why are u paying for xbl in the first place? :?

ms forces him to do so if he wants to do the same things he can do on the pc for free, if i was him i'd be pissed too, b/c thats called milkage

like i said before you would have to connect to several online network services in order to achieve what live does in one. Thats why they dont charge you for a subscription few.

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#33 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

If you have good enough internet to use Live... Then your connection can handle you going to multiple sites and the same time...

RogueGoose

thats not the point the point is that live offers all those services in one network and thats where the fees go. If you go on yahoo or aim you get the service of voice and even video chat but thats it

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#34 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

sambalimbo

we are just trying to understand how people dont boycott this milkage thats all

For the same reason people aren't boycotting a 40 dollar demo. People have different opinions on what has value. If you don't like it, don't pay for it. Like I said, it's simple.Coming up with reasons why MS is charging you for XBL and not really having ANY facts is pretty damn silly. You are just riling yourself up for nothing.

If you have issues with why you are paying for live, then by all means stop. If enough people do this, then MS will know they have a problem. If XBL's competitors come up with a better free alternative in the console space then maybe they will have to make a change. Until then, people seem to find some value in XBL, so that they continue to pay for it.

Another thread about this is pretty usesless and only amounts to somebody whining about something that maybe they shouldn't be buying if it bothers them so much.

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#35 tbolt76
Member since 2008 • 987 Posts

Much rather pay $3.33 a month than lets say...

Poor matchmaking.

How about the promise of the greatest online community never to be seen (PS Home anyone?)

Free servers with admins that are part of the clan you are playing against (boot here, boot there)

Hackers that run around using weapon upgrades and perks not available through the normal course of the game.

And its $3.33 less I have to spend on the McDonalds Dollar menu, which can't be too bad for my figure.

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#36 RogueGoose
Member since 2007 • 525 Posts

Much rather pay $3.33 a month than lets say...

Poor matchmaking.

How about the promise of the greatest online community never to be seen (PS Home anyone?)

Free servers with admins that are part of the clan you are playing against (boot here, boot there)

Hackers that run around using weapon upgrades and perks not available through the normal course of the game.

And its $3.33 less I have to spend on the McDonalds Dollar menu, which can't be too bad for my figure.

tbolt76

Your fee does not go into the Matchemaking... Its P2P...

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#37 Eragon_11
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

RogueGoose

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

I'm fine paying for it... I've being paying for it for 4 Years... I want to know why I'm paying Twice for it...

errrrr.....if you think your paying for nothing....then stop paying ....im not here to guide you through steps like your a new born.....do some research and find the features xbl offers......this threads are getting real old

"this threads are getting real old"... WTF does that mean...

Errrr... and I know what I'm paying for... I said what I'm paying for in the Original Post... Don't you READ??? And for those Poor Features a Don't see why M$ thinks they can charge people Twice... I'm not super Pissed about having to Pay for it because Frakly its not to much for me, but Lemming need to understand that Live is not the Best online Sevice out there... they offer Nothing GROUND BREAKING... Everything has been there before Live was around on the Computer... Lemmings have over run this board with there Faboy statements and its about time they understand what there saying is a Lie...

Live does not give you the best online experiance... Its all about the games and M$ just does not have them... One of the best online games for the 360 is Call of Duty 4, but thats Multiplate so that makes them Equal... M$ is not Dominating the Online Market...

why not just cancel your subscription? :|
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#38 james28893
Member since 2007 • 3252 Posts
It's a much more fluid service than PSN, thanks to the in-game invites, chat invites and all of that being accessed at the touch of the Guide button. Comparing the PC's online to the 360s in completely unfair though.
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#39 Canvas_Of_Flesh
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It's a much more fluid service than PSN, thanks to the in-game invites, chat invites and all of that being accessed at the touch of the Guide button. Comparing the PC's online to the 360s in completely unfair though.james28893

I don't care about that stuff. Which is why I refuse to pay for Live. If I want to chat to a friend I'll pick up the phone or talk to him/her face to face. I hardly play online at all. I think in 2 months I've ranked up a total of 7 and a half hours on PSN, so it'd be completely worthless for me to waste money on it, however fluid people seem to think it is.

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#40 BTBAM127
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

Dante2710

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

oh ok. but how would you continue to play online? i think there should be a activation fee maybe like $50 but thats it you pay that once then you have it forever. maybe if MS wanted mroe money they could incourage people signing up for 2 or 3 accounts for your household

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#41 MrPostman4Chi
Member since 2006 • 1219 Posts
Your **** about Live but yet your paying for it,guess that makes you pretty dumb huh?
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#42 Verge_6
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ONLY on this board will you find people making genuine comparisons between CONSOLE online services and PC online services. Why not start comparing the Red Sox to the Little Tigers little league team from Hicksville, Nebraska?
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#43 stephant_6
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Seriously, enough already. If you have a problem with live, Don't subscibe to it.

Problem solved.

Dante2710

lol bingo....if you dont like paying for it....then dont...

That's a really lame excuse. If people want to enjoy online games such as CoD4,why should they pay to play it on 360 when it's free online on PSN or PC. The only exclusive 360 game that anyone plays online is Halo 3.

The fact of the matter is that there is no good reason to pay that 50$ for a service that is free on PC and PS3. I know 50$ a year isn't much,but it's the prospect of it,it's milkage.

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#44 MaximumD
Member since 2007 • 1506 Posts

I agree with TC. Why do people need to pay twice for Videos, Pictures, and Themes? They already paying the Gold Member Fee which supports the servers. This is all milkage.

What I don't get is people saying, "if you don't like it, then don't subscribe". That's just plain dumb. Yes, I don't like it, but I need to play online and for this I must pay. This is not what I like or not, it is forced upon us.

Dude, if I were you, I would just stick with PSN. It doesn't have all the features that you want, but online gaming is still free. You can do the rest with a phone and PC.

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#45 Hulkness
Member since 2008 • 1271 Posts
It is the best online on a console nuff said.
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#46 UssjTrunks
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Steam is the same thing, in fact I like it more, and it's free.
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#47 Relys
Member since 2005 • 4426 Posts

I pay for live because I'm a sucker...

Like everyone else who pays for it!

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#48 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

maybe the real COWS are the 360 owners, M$ is milking the %$#$%# out of em ... LoLsamiup

you are 100% dead on with that

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#49 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Steam is the same thing, in fact I like it more, and it's free.UssjTrunks
No it's not. Steam and LIVE are not the same thing. LIVE is a service while Steam is some little application you download.
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#50 GameCaller
Member since 2007 • 494 Posts
[QUOTE="RogueGoose"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

name me an online service that offers everything that live offers?

ParadiddleFill

My Computer offers it all... I can downloads games and demo's for free off of my computer... and I can get Pictures for Free too... Oh and Most importantly Most online games for the PC COST NOTHING....

Edit: Sorry i had to delete some of the Quotes...

but your pc is needs to connect to several online services in order to achieve what live does. The key word is integrated thats what live does best. One network for all of your media entertainment

Not If your going to a Good Website... You should be able to find everything on some of those Turrent (Don't know how to spell) Sites...

can you voice and video chat on a torrent site? no all you can do is download games and movies illegally i might add

There are many free voice and video chat software on the computer