Why Wii will own 2009!! ( sorry but no game lists)

If you have been wondering, what makes sheep so confident that 2009 will turn out well for them? The answer is simple. No, it's not some game list that haters will tore up, instead i will give the reasons why Wii will change the minds of gamers all around the world about it being "casual".

1. Announcments.

So we all know 2008 was a pretty drag year for nintendo and it's fans as a whole, but the main reason for that was lack of proper announcements. Sure, Sin and punishment and punchout were announced at the nintendo summit but it still doesn't fix the damage done at E3 and it's horrendous casual concentration. Luckily for us, E3 next year will be back just the way it should have been, for the gamers only (and booth babes ^_^). There is no reason for nintendo to go all "casual fun" on us next year, in fact i don't even think they want to. Zelda and pikmin are ready to be shown, who knows, maybe even mario? Whatever it is, a couple of hot titles will  definitely  get the wii back on the right track.

2. Wii Motion Plus.

Wii Motion Plus is probably the biggest reason why people are going to witness an incredible spike towards Wii game scores. Remember all the times when you read the word waggle in the manual to do a move? And start to think if it's really all the Wiimote can do? Well here's something to cheer you up. Wii will be waggle free starting 2009!! That's right, the whole "shake your arms mindlessly" trend will finally pass away with the Wii Motion plus, a small accessory added to the Wii that will make it a real revolution. In the words of reggie himself, "Wii mote was supposed to be powered by Wii motion plus from day one but it was too expensive at the time".  It's ok reggie! As long as i get to swing my Wii mote as a lasso, and it actually registers as a lasso,  i'm sold!

3. The Red Ocean 

 As you all know (or don't know), Nintendo's current strategy is called the blue ocean, which means unfounded territory. One could easily link this with the new, expanded audience Nintendo is spending so much time and money on. If all what's said is true, then what do you make of Nintendo's highly important, yet neglected, claim made back in it's last summit that's it venturing in the red ocean? A great sea of sharks and other dangerous fish that color their own waters red from their own power? Yes, you have read all about it before, in an article made by Sean Malstorm called Birdmen and the Casual Fallacy. It explains in great detail how nintendo is approaching this generation, and how their grand plan (called disruption) works. It's all about them working on the lower end tier titles, which ended with Wii music, and moving up the board till they conquer all. Haters have either said he's insane, or overly hopeful or optimistic. However, all his predictions are coming true. What does that mean for the future of the Wii? You tell me!!!!

You get your point out, but I'd get your flame shield out, just in casetancred8120

lol this thread is kinda dead, and since you put time in to type those paragraphs ill post.

well your first reason sucks. just because a few more normal gamers can now go into E3, it doesnt mean theyll unleash a lot of "hardcore" titles. Nintendo can pretty much go up there and say "we hate gamers" and theyll still win. your second reason is pretty strong because it got me thinking. but it still sucks knowing that they were actually about to put those motion plus features, and now we gotta pay for em. Oh and motion controlls dont make a game dummy. aren't sheep the ones who say that "graphics dont make the game"? why would you guys treat motion controls like theyll COMPLETELLLLYELYELY CHANGE TEH FACE OF GAMMMEEIIEING, even though it's just enhanced controls. so more controls make a game? lol.

oh and your 3rd reason is stupid. it made me go

lol this thread is kinda dead, and since you put time in to type those paragraphs ill post.

well your first reason sucks. just because a few more normal gamers can now go into E3, it doesnt mean theyll unleash a lot of "hardcore" titles. Nintendo can pretty much go up there and say "we hate gamers" and theyll still win. your second reason is pretty strong because it got me thinking. but it still sucks knowing that they were actually about to put those motion plus features, and now we gotta pay for em. Oh and motion controlls dont make a game dummy. aren't sheep the ones who say that "graphics dont make the game"? why would you guys treat motion controls like theyll COMPLETELLLLYELYELY CHANGE TEH FACE OF GAMMMEEIIEING, even though it's just enhanced controls. so more controls make a game? lol.

oh and your 3rd reason is stupid. it made me go

lolwotrickroll

[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"]

lol this thread is kinda dead, and since you put time in to type those paragraphs ill post.

well your first reason sucks. just because a few more normal gamers can now go into E3, it doesnt mean theyll unleash a lot of "hardcore" titles. Nintendo can pretty much go up there and say "we hate gamers" and theyll still win. your second reason is pretty strong because it got me thinking. but it still sucks knowing that they were actually about to put those motion plus features, and now we gotta pay for em. Oh and motion controlls dont make a game dummy. aren't sheep the ones who say that "graphics dont make the game"? why would you guys treat motion controls like theyll COMPLETELLLLYELYELY CHANGE TEH FACE OF GAMMMEEIIEING, even though it's just enhanced controls. so more controls make a game? lol.

oh and your 3rd reason is stupid. it made me go

nintendo-4life

ehh yeah i guess it takes some time. YES nintendo must improve their part of E3. i felt ashamed to be a nintendo fan while watching that 08 show. ya gotta good point bout the sixaxis and the D3, but i only complained a little. there was a good deal at radioshack today: 1 D3 for $30. they ran out :cry:. but if all the wii games from now on NEED the wii motion plus... you can see why you can get a bit frustrated if you dont wanna spend $40-$50 bucks lol. oh and their philosophy... well like i said in my first post, i went "LOLWUT?" they're just words to keep gamers in hope. no real proof. i wouldn't believe MS or Sony if they had some words like that. it just does NOT make sense to me.

How about games? Who care about 2009 anouncments? If it's anounced in 2009, that means the game likely wont come till 2010. And I wouldnt really Praise Nintendo for forcing consumers to buy an add on to make their controllers work properly. And for reason three, I fail to see how Nintendo making money is going to excite people outside of Nintendo employees..vashkey

me and my ps3 dont think so :PPrinceofSarcasm

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"]

lol this thread is kinda dead, and since you put time in to type those paragraphs ill post.

well your first reason sucks. just because a few more normal gamers can now go into E3, it doesnt mean theyll unleash a lot of "hardcore" titles. Nintendo can pretty much go up there and say "we hate gamers" and theyll still win. your second reason is pretty strong because it got me thinking. but it still sucks knowing that they were actually about to put those motion plus features, and now we gotta pay for em. Oh and motion controlls dont make a game dummy. aren't sheep the ones who say that "graphics dont make the game"? why would you guys treat motion controls like theyll COMPLETELLLLYELYELY CHANGE TEH FACE OF GAMMMEEIIEING, even though it's just enhanced controls. so more controls make a game? lol.

oh and your 3rd reason is stupid. it made me go

lolwotrickroll

ehh yeah i guess it takes some time. YES nintendo must improve their part of E3. i felt ashamed to be a nintendo fan while watching that 08 show. ya gotta good point bout the sixaxis and the D3, but i only complained a little. there was a good deal at radioshack today: 1 D3 for $30. they ran out :cry:. but if all the wii games from now on NEED the wii motion plus... you can see why you can get a bit frustrated if you dont wanna spend $40-$50 bucks lol. oh and their philosophy... well like i said in my first post, i went "LOLWUT?" they're just words to keep gamers in hope. no real proof. i wouldn't believe MS or Sony if they had some words like that. it just does NOT make sense to me.

Okay TC, that was a well put together post. Because of this, i've decided to come in and argue with you on a few key points. First, let's start with announcements. Your wrong on that part, by a mile. Announcements were and have been made just like the other made theirs. What is different for the Wii is Nintendo's casual approach to this generation. This is a fact, one that Nintendo has embraced like a child would candy.

Nintendo being more casual isn't a bad thing. In many ways, the void Nintendo fills in the pillar of gaming entertainment is exactly what is required for our favorite hobby to grow in the healthiest manner possible; it allows accessibility to all. On top of that, it gives parents a starting point of reference to get young gamers started in a family friendly and kid safe environment. Nintendo knows this and plays their position extraordinarily well. To put it in a little more perspective, Nintendo is to games what Disney is to movies.

Now as for the Wii owning in 2009, it all depends on what perspective you are referring to. If you mean as a hardcore gamer, that is a level of expectation that you will find yourself disappointed when the big N does not reach it. The fact is all highly hyped games are being released on the more expensive and powerful consoles of this generation. This brings to light one of Nintendo's biggest problems. You see this year wouldn't have been bad if they had released as many 'gamer' games as they had in '07 on the Wii. However, they only brought us Brawl for a year. This then makes gamers turn to the offerings other publishers are putting on the Wii, a library which is literally plagued by shovelware and 2nd rate PS2 ports. The fact is that while 3rd party publishers spend more money making games for HD consoles, sales data have already systemactically proved that outside of a Resident Evil game, 3rd party Wii titles do not sell well at all. 

When the Wii was first announced and started it's console lifecycle, alot of publishers looked at it as a new found creative outlet with tons of gameplay potential and much cheaper per-title development cost. Instead, Nintendo kept throwing more and more add-on peripherals at the system to bring about further functionality which should've been included with the original console. That coupled with the low sales returns on key game release flops on the Wii have resulted in publishers instead refocusing their efforts to the higher grade consoles.

If Nintendo can ramp up some of their internal teams to make more 'core' games and sprinkle their releases throughout the year, it'll at least be a decent year for the Wii. The biggest hurdle Nintendo has to get over is the disillusionment 3rd party publishers have gotten with Wii development. This will at least keep a steady stream of varied genre titles coming into the Wii which will make the wait between key Nintendo franchise releases more bearable. In the end it is Nintendo's choice of what audience they will primarily target. Right now their focus has drastically shifted from gamers to families, a wise business choice fianncially to be perfectly honest. It doesn't make gamers happy, but we have fantastic alternatives for these areas.

Okay TC, that was a well put together post. Because of this, i've decided to come in and argue with you on a few key points. First, let's start with announcements. Your wrong on that part, by a mile. Announcements were and have been made just like the other made theirs. What is different for the Wii is Nintendo's casual approach to this generation. This is a fact, one that Nintendo has embraced like a child would candy.

Nintendo being more casual isn't a bad thing. In many ways, the void Nintendo fills in the pillar of gaming entertainment is exactly what is required for our favorite hobby to grow in the healthiest manner possible; it allows accessibility to all. On top of that, it gives parents a starting point of reference to get young gamers started in a family friendly and kid safe environment. Nintendo knows this and plays their position extraordinarily well. To put it in a little more perspective, Nintendo is to games what Disney is to movies.

Now as for the Wii owning in 2009, it all depends on what perspective you are referring to. If you mean as a hardcore gamer, that is a level of expectation that you will find yourself disappointed when the big N does not reach it. The fact is all highly hyped games are being released on the more expensive and powerful consoles of this generation. This brings to light one of Nintendo's biggest problems. You see this year wouldn't have been bad if they had released as many 'gamer' games as they had in '07 on the Wii. However, they only brought us Brawl for a year. This then makes gamers turn to the offerings other publishers are putting on the Wii, a library which is literally plagued by shovelware and 2nd rate PS2 ports. The fact is that while 3rd party publishers spend more money making games for HD consoles, sales data have already systemactically proved that outside of a Resident Evil game, 3rd party Wii titles do not sell well at all. 

When the Wii was first announced and started it's console lifecycle, alot of publishers looked at it as a new found creative outlet with tons of gameplay potential and much cheaper per-title development cost. Instead, Nintendo kept throwing more and more add-on peripherals at the system to bring about further functionality which should've been included with the original console. That coupled with the low sales returns on key game release flops on the Wii have resulted in publishers instead refocusing their efforts to the higher grade consoles.

If Nintendo can ramp up some of their internal teams to make more 'core' games and sprinkle their releases throughout the year, it'll at least be a decent year for the Wii. The biggest hurdle Nintendo has to get over is the disillusionment 3rd party publishers have gotten with Wii development. This will at least keep a steady stream of varied genre titles coming into the Wii which will make the wait between key Nintendo franchise releases more bearable. In the end it is Nintendo's choice of what audience they will primarily target. Right now their focus has drastically shifted from gamers to families, a wise business choice fianncially to be perfectly honest. It doesn't make gamers happy, but we have fantastic alternatives for these areas.

Shensolidus

[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]me and my ps3 dont think so :Ptok1879

I have high hopes for M+, it has so much potential.

But mainly what I'm excited about in 09 is the games;) 

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]me and my ps3 dont think so :PSMR-Venom

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="tok1879"] Well Wii Music, the greatest game ever made, doesn't agree with you! :Dgongytron

I sure hope so. However I also have a feeling Pikmin 3 will be in 2009, maybe Zelda. However you are going to get flamed so take out your shield :PSMR-Venom

Pikmin 3 and a new Zelda are the sole reason I still have my Wii... Come on Nintendo!

So the n64 expansion 2.0 is now a good thing? Wii wins only in sales in 09 like always, but you can be sure the lineup will be inferior once again.Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]So the n64 expansion 2.0 is now a good thing? Wii wins only in sales in 09 like always, but you can be sure the lineup will be inferior once again.nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]So the n64 expansion 2.0 is now a good thing? Wii wins only in sales in 09 like always, but you can be sure the lineup will be inferior once again.tok1879

those are terrible Argumentsnaruto7777

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]So the n64 expansion 2.0 is now a good thing? Wii wins only in sales in 09 like always, but you can be sure the lineup will be inferior once again.nintendo-4life

Wii-motion plus is nothing more that a bad add on that should have always been there, but now it costs you more, with a very small chance of positive results coming from it. Don't even pretend to hype it as a good thing.

my wii is practically dead to me  the only game i think ill ever even consider buying for it would be sin and punishment 2 

[QUOTE="vashkey"]How about games? Who care about 2009 anouncments? If it's anounced in 2009, that means the game likely wont come till 2010. And I wouldnt really Praise Nintendo for forcing consumers to buy an add on to make their controllers work properly. And for reason three, I fail to see how Nintendo making money is going to excite people outside of Nintendo employees..nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="vashkey"]How about games? Who care about 2009 anouncments? If it's anounced in 2009, that means the game likely wont come till 2010. And I wouldnt really Praise Nintendo for forcing consumers to buy an add on to make their controllers work properly. And for reason three, I fail to see how Nintendo making money is going to excite people outside of Nintendo employees..cainetao11

How? Are you even able to give one good reason it's a terrible gaming platform?  

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]So the n64 expansion 2.0 is now a good thing? Wii wins only in sales in 09 like always, but you can be sure the lineup will be inferior once again.Vaasman

Wii-motion plus is nothing more that a bad add on that should have always been there, but now it costs you more, with a very small chance of positive results coming from it. Don't even pretend to hype it as a good thing.

No game lists? The Wii's purpose is to play games, it won't own without them :lol:NFS102

A baseball player gets to the plate and doesn't swing his bat often. He may walk on occasion, but the manager will discontinue playing him soon. See he isn't doing what he is there for. Like the Wii with few good titles, imo.cainetao11

I'm sorry but I see no substance... 

I already know that Spliter Cell, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Ghost Busters, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter V, Tekken 6, Halo 3 Recon(or whatever they changed the name to), Star Ocean, CryOn ect.. will hit the 360 next year(don't own a PS3 so I don't care if some of those are multiplats).  What's coming out for the wii that will get gamers excited?   

No game lists? The Wii's purpose is to play games, it won't own without them :lol:NFS102

You wanted a game list?

I'm sorry but I see no substance... 

I already know that Spliter Cell, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Ghost Busters, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter V, Tekken 6, Halo 3 Recon(or whatever they changed the name to), Star Ocean, CryOn ect.. will hit the 360 next year(don't own a PS3 so I don't care if some of those are multiplats).  What's coming out for the wii that will get gamers excited?   

OhSnapitz

Zelda and Pikmin.

So a grand total of 5 games I'll own. Nice work Nintendo. You really know how to make a hardcore gamer happy.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

I'm sorry but I see no substance... 

I already know that Spliter Cell, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Ghost Busters, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter V, Tekken 6, Halo 3 Recon(or whatever they changed the name to), Star Ocean, CryOn ect.. will hit the 360 next year(don't own a PS3 so I don't care if some of those are multiplats).  What's coming out for the wii that will get gamers excited?   

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

I'm sorry but I see no substance... 

I already know that Spliter Cell, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Ghost Busters, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter V, Tekken 6, Halo 3 Recon(or whatever they changed the name to), Star Ocean, CryOn ect.. will hit the 360 next year(don't own a PS3 so I don't care if some of those are multiplats).  What's coming out for the wii that will get gamers excited?   

OhSnapitz