Why wont Sony reveal the PS3 only PSN numbers?

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#1 Cole-Protocal
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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

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#2 nc_soldier
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why do you care? really, why?
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#3 Cole-Protocal
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why do you care? really, why?nc_soldier

make cows feel insecure?

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#4 -Sluggo-
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Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal

What difference does it make? The point of releasing online numbers is just to brag how popular your online setup is. It makes no difference if they are accessing the PSN from a PS3 or PSP. It is the same store.

I think the bigger question is why is Sony releasing tons of percentages and then real numbers for PSN, but no real sales numbers yet. That is the more revealing question, if you ask me.

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#6 FatalDomain
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why do you care? really, why?nc_soldier
Cause maybe folks are tired of these bloated, skewed, "Playstation Family " numbers Sony has been touting this gen...If Sony feels the PS3 is really on the road to gaming dominance why not show real figures (hell they could even go the shipped vs. sold route as long as the numbers are real). What people fail to realize is that gaming is now big business and in the realm of business you have knowledgeable consumers who want to know about the company they are buying products from. Only children just sit back and make requests on purchases without doing any real research...they simply "just want it"... Game On....
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#8 FatalDomain
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Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

-Sluggo-
QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...
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[QUOTE="nc_soldier"]why do you care? really, why?FatalDomain
Cause maybe folks are tired of these bloated, skewed, "Playstation Family " numbers Sony has been touting this gen...If Sony feels the PS3 is really on the road to gaming dominance why not show real figures (hell they could even go the shipped vs. sold route as long as the numbers are real). What people fail to realize is that gaming is now big business and in the realm of business you have knowledgeable consumers who want to know about the company they are buying products from. Only children just sit back and make requests on purchases without doing any real research...they simply "just want it"... Game On....

That's great, but the guy who's asking the question here isn't a ps3 consumer I belive. He only wants to know so that he can keep spreading his negativ crap about the ps3, which is sad, he should rather go enjoy his 360.... I'm myself gonna go and enjoy my console right now.
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#10 waynehead895
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

FatalDomain
QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...

OMG I'm going to do that as well. Just to lock up the name so no one else takes it.
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#11 SolidTy
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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal

I'm interested to see how many GOLD Xbox Live Accounts there are, but it ain't going to happen.

M$ counts PC Live, Zune, Silver and Gold when counting Live memberships.

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#12 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

SolidTy

I'm interested to see how many GOLD Xbox Live Accounts there are, but it ain't going to happen.

M$ counts PC Live, Zune, Silver and Gold when counting Live memberships.

well they said a majority..........so at the very least 8.6 gold members, little more then half the total.

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#13 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

FatalDomain

QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...

Why are these arguements so one sided?

Yes, some people do have multiple accounts, and also the same type of people have multiple Xbox Live Accounts too...congrats.

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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal
As a guy who comes here generally for gaming news you take the cake on taking SW too seriously. Go outside and get some fresh air.
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#15 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal

I'm interested to see how many GOLD Xbox Live Accounts there are, but it ain't going to happen.

M$ counts PC Live, Zune, Silver and Gold when counting Live memberships.

well they said a majority..........so at the very least 8.6 gold members, little more then half the total.

So, you want Sony to do what Microsoft did, and mention if it's a MAJORITY or not? That's the qualifier you need?

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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

SolidTy

QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...

Why are these arguements so one sided?

Yes, some people do have multiple accounts, and also the same type of people have multiple Xbox Live Accounts too...congrats.

Truer words were never spoken. I mean some people do know Silver is free right? I have a friend who has one Gold and one Silver, and my brother's guilty of making free accounts on Halo 3. Trying to see how far he can go in one month, considering he's got nothing to do with his level 50 rank already.
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#17 violent_spinal
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

FatalDomain
QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...


Are we to believe LIVE numbers as well?
There was a slew of lemmings revealing they owned Japan accounts around the time of the RE5 demo.
I remember the same for the Ninja Gaiden demo as well.

Who knows how many more created additional accounts to get to the Japan MarketPlace.

I have more than one account on my XBox.
The other one is my brothers. What about these numbers?

I've even made joke accounts with spare LIVE cards I've had.
Do you think they're not counting those?

LOL
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#18 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"] QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...yoshi_64

Why are these arguements so one sided?

Yes, some people do have multiple accounts, and also the same type of people have multiple Xbox Live Accounts too...congrats.

Truer words were never spoken. I mean some people do know Silver is free right? I have a friend who has one Gold and one Silver, and my brother's guilty of making free accounts on Halo 3. Trying to see how far he can go in one month, considering he's got nothing to do with his level 50 rank already.

Did your brother top out at 4 accounts? Halo was a big reason why many made multiple accounts, I'm just curious how far he went. My brother made only 3, but including himself, he had a nice 4 player situation for a month.

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#19 FatalDomain
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Funny how people immediately jump on the bu bu bu but what about XBL...We are talking about Sony and its entire "Playstation Family" BS campaign its chose to hype this gen. Instead of staying on task discussing the topic, people want to deter the discussion towards something else. If you want to gripe about the 360, XBL and all things related to MS, make a topic about it. The reason Sony is in its current dillusional state with the PS3 is because of its goofy fanbase. Instead of actually talking about the issues at hand, you rather turn a blind eye and bicker about the competition, which gives Sony the impression that everythang is "A OK" in Sonyland.

So with the issue of not revealing actual PS3 numbers related to PSN it gives the false impression that the gaming network is heavily populated and comparable to the competition. As the attentive gamers everyone pretends to be, the actual impact of your console of choice might be of importance to you...or you could play blind fanboy and assume the world revolves around your entertainment center.

Game On...

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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

waynehead895
QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...

OMG I'm going to do that as well. Just to lock up the name so no one else takes it.

it doesnt work only accounts that work are the ones made on the ps3 or store on the pc. and the psp just recently added ps store functionality so i doubt their user numbers are highly affected by the ps3 more so probably ps3 users than psp users.
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I myself have had 4 different XBL accounts. o:
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#22 DarkyC
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The simple answer is maybe because they can't. PSN accounts created in a PS3, PSN or online are the same. The only way to separate between them would be checking all the transactions and activity. The same way M$ numbers don't refer if they are people that have Xlive accounts, gold accounts, or have once had gold accounts but stopped paying.
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#23 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal

I'm interested to see how many GOLD Xbox Live Accounts there are, but it ain't going to happen.

M$ counts PC Live, Zune, Silver and Gold when counting Live memberships.

well they said a majority..........so at the very least 8.6 gold members, little more then half the total.

i dont remember them saying that. do you have a link for that?

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Both Microsoft and Sony have been spinning numbers and news, so now are we to say they're both in trouble because they're misleading the public to a degree? Oh come on...
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[QUOTE="nc_soldier"]why do you care? really, why?FatalDomain
Cause maybe folks are tired of these bloated, skewed, "Playstation Family " numbers Sony has been touting this gen...If Sony feels the PS3 is really on the road to gaming dominance why not show real figures (hell they could even go the shipped vs. sold route as long as the numbers are real). What people fail to realize is that gaming is now big business and in the realm of business you have knowledgeable consumers who want to know about the company they are buying products from. Only children just sit back and make requests on purchases without doing any real research...they simply "just want it"... Game On....

MS needs to show live accts for 360 and PC and then compare to Sony's PSN and PSP accts. Sony likes to bloat their nubmers whenever they can.
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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal
When will MS release there XBOX360 only Live numbers> Between the Xbox the Xbox360, the PC and the Zune. I am interested to see how many are Xbox only.
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#27 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

Other than sharing that number with PSP, there are people who have multiple accounts.

SolidTy

QFT about the multiple accounts, hell I have a PSN account and dont even own a PS3 or PSP!!!! So does that mean Im a PSN gamer as well?!?!? Game On...

Why are these arguements so one sided?

Yes, some people do have multiple accounts, and also the same type of people have multiple Xbox Live Accounts too...congrats.

QTF! heck I have 17 PSN accounts(don't ask why)
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

SolidTy

I'm interested to see how many GOLD Xbox Live Accounts there are, but it ain't going to happen.

M$ counts PC Live, Zune, Silver and Gold when counting Live memberships.

Didn't MS announce the other day "18 million Xbox Live accounts"...not 18 million Live accounts?

EDIT: Actually it's 17 million Xbox Live account. LINK

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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Funny how people immediately jump on the bu bu bu but what about XBL...We are talking about Sony and its entire "Playstation Family" BS campaign its chose to hype this gen. Instead of staying on task discussing the topic, people want to deter the discussion towards something else. If you want to gripe about the 360, XBL and all things related to MS, make a topic about it. The reason Sony is in its current dillusional state with the PS3 is because of its goofy fanbase. Instead of actually talking about the issues at hand, you rather turn a blind eye and bicker about the competition, which gives Sony the impression that everythang is "A OK" in Sonyland.

So with the issue of not revealing actual PS3 numbers related to PSN it gives the false impression that the gaming network is heavily populated and comparable to the competition. As the attentive gamers everyone pretends to be, the actual impact of your console of choice might be of importance to you...or you could play blind fanboy and assume the world revolves around your entertainment center.

Game On...

thats what sony fans are all about, lies
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

corn_dogs
As a guy who comes here generally for gaming news you take the cake on taking SW too seriously. Go outside and get some fresh air.

finally someone calls him out
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#31 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="corn_dogs"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

PUG_NASTY

As a guy who comes here generally for gaming news you take the cake on taking SW too seriously. Go outside and get some fresh air.

finally someone calls him out

the cows get to you. their desire to act like #2 when in fact they are #3 can make one......irritated.

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I have a PSN account but I am way too busy playing on XBL to ever play any games on PSN. I mainly go on the internet and Playstation Store. I am not that impressed with Sony's online effort so far. I do enjoy the PS3 games like Wipeout, Motorstorm, and LBP but I just don't ever play them online.
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[QUOTE="nc_soldier"]why do you care? really, why?Cole-Protocal

make cows feel insecure?

ha ha ha. I do find it entertaining seeing die hard fanboys squiriming and doing damage control on here. Sometimes it's more fun then playing playing games itself.
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They revealed 17 million PSN accounts. But what some may not realize is that it is between the PS3 and PSP. I am very interested to see how many are PS3 only.

Cole-Protocal
I don't think they have those numbers. I don't think they separate them that much. an account is an account.
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#35 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="nc_soldier"]why do you care? really, why?nc_soldier
Cause maybe folks are tired of these bloated, skewed, "Playstation Family " numbers Sony has been touting this gen...If Sony feels the PS3 is really on the road to gaming dominance why not show real figures (hell they could even go the shipped vs. sold route as long as the numbers are real). What people fail to realize is that gaming is now big business and in the realm of business you have knowledgeable consumers who want to know about the company they are buying products from. Only children just sit back and make requests on purchases without doing any real research...they simply "just want it"... Game On....

That's great, but the guy who's asking the question here isn't a ps3 consumer I belive. He only wants to know so that he can keep spreading his negativ crap about the ps3, which is sad, he should rather go enjoy his 360.... I'm myself gonna go and enjoy my console right now.

You were expecting anything else? This is system wars after all. simple truth is there is no Cow that has rebuttal to what he is asking. It's only fair. Sony is well known for hype and broken promises.
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Do they include people who only play Xbox as part of their account counts too?