Why would Konami NOT make a 360 version of MGS4?

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#1 the_h_bomb
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii
  • Software sales are a joke
  • Konami is a business and as such wants to make money
  • The 360 has comparable specifications to the PS3
  • MGS is a title that primarilty appeals to western consumers (territories where the 360 is more successful)
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#2 adastos
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Maybe they don't like M$ or the do not want to remake the game for the 360.
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#3 Spartan8907
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Maybe they are being paid by Sony?
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#4 Jimmi323
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Maybe they don't like M$ or the do not want to remake the game for the 360.adastos

Businesses are not about "not wanting" to do something. They are about making money. They would make lots of money by porting MGS4 to 360... which is precisely why I'm wondering why they aren't.

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#5 fuzzysquash
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because Konami and Sony have already signed an exclusivity agreement.

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#6 JayPee89
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Because they are stoopid? :?
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#7 Anti-Gamer
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Because kojima doesn't want to? :|
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii
  • Software sales are a joke
  • Konami is a business and as such wants to make money
  • The 360 has comparable specifications to the PS3
  • MGS is a title that primarilty appeals to western consumers (territories where the 360 is more successful)

the_h_bomb

they could be paid by sony

2) MGS movie deal could be connected with theMGS4 deal

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#10 Vis-a-Vis
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because Konami and Sony have already signed an exclusivity agreement.

fuzzysquash

Thats a lie.

Konami could very well port it to the 360, Sony wouldnt be too happy about that though.

For now MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3 and it's gonna stay that way until Konami says otherwise.

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#11 clone01
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maybe kojima is loyal to sony, maybe kojima isnt a traitor, maybe your a fanboy, maybe mgs4 has been stated time and time again to be an exclusive, maybe you need to shut up, maybe your an idiot, good enough reasons?linkin_guy109

maybe your wrong. i'm sure its an exclusivity contract.

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#12 hiryu3
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Because Konami said they weren't

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#13 Jared2720
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[QUOTE="adastos"]Maybe they don't like M$ or the do not want to remake the game for the 360.Jimmi323

Businesses are not about "not wanting" to do something. They are about making money. They would make lots of money by porting MGS4 to 360... which is precisely why I'm wondering why they aren't.

That's not necessarily true. Remember the Xbox version of MGS2? It was a complete failure. Konami tried it already and it didn't work. They won't make the mistake of doing it again. There are also more financial issues involved with porting MGS4 to the 360. First of all, you do you have pay people to port a game to a different console. Additionally, it would almost certainly require multiple discs--that drastically cuts into profits as well. There won't be a 360 version.

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#14 asdasd
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"We're telling our fans that if you want to play 'Metal Gear Solid 4', you have to buy a PS3," said Ryan Payton, the assistant producer of the game.

"The PlayStation brand has always been good to us, and we're pretty bullish on the PS3."

It aint coming to 360. DEAL WITH IT.

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#15 hip-hop-cola2
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[QUOTE="Jimmi323"]

[QUOTE="adastos"]Maybe they don't like M$ or the do not want to remake the game for the 360.Jared2720

Businesses are not about "not wanting" to do something. They are about making money. They would make lots of money by porting MGS4 to 360... which is precisely why I'm wondering why they aren't.

That's not necessarily true. Remember the Xbox version of MGS2? It was a complete failure. Konami tried it already and it didn't work. They won't make the mistake of doing it again. There are also more financial issues involved with porting MGS4 to the 360. First of all, you do you have pay people to port a game to a different console. Additionally, it would almost certainly require multiple discs--that drastically cuts into profits as well. There won't be a 360 version.

what happened to the xbox ver of mgs2? if it was bad sales then that point is kinda void since the ps3 dose have less consoles out there. OR is the American market haters of mgs? that would make more sense as its the place 360 breeds lol

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#16 Swift_Boss_A
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:| Go bow down and kiss Kojima's feet, maybe he'll listen
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#17 FlamingFlamingo
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii

the_h_bomb

You do know that the PS3 sold more worldwide than the 360 this month. Or are you one of those fanboys who only see certain facts and dissmiss the ones they don't want to see? The PS3 did bad initially, the 360 also had many problems initially.

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#18 MikeB_74
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yea konami is very stupid..

time to wake up and do what capcom did but really who cares ?

mgs isnt that great

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#19 mistervengeance
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they would have to cripple it to put it on 360, and sony pays a lot for exclusivitiy
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#20 Javy03
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yea konami is very stupid..

time to wake up and do what capcom did but really who cares ?

mgs isnt that great

MikeB_74

If I recall Capcom was doing not so well financially leading to them going fully multiplat. Do you remember Capcom's other famously clever moves like moving RE exclusivly to the console with the smallest fanbase for its game as opposed to keeping it on the system that they made the most money off of.

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#21 BuryMe
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I'm sure the 360 can handle MGS4, and i think there is the possibility that it will be ported, but only after the ps3 version has been out for a while.

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#22 osirisomeomi
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Because MGS games for non-sony platforms have always sold really badly...
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#23 Kyoshiro19
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii

FlamingFlamingo

You do know that the PS3 sold more worldwide than the 360 this month. Or are you one of those fanboys who only see certain facts and dissmiss the ones they don't want to see? The PS3 did bad initially, the 360 also had many problems initially.

I agree. A lot of the 360 fanboys do that.I think Konami knows a good console when they see one.:)

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#24 Hitamaru-homia
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Maybe cause they forogt that Japanese games don't sell on 360,Someone name a japanese game that ever sold well on the thing? PLus they're japan. Ryan Payton already said it got like 1 million preorders or so (Check pod cast i think 54-57.It's the one before or after E307,i was listenting to it on my PS3 xD). Plus 360 isn't worth having it cause of the controls. The Controls are terrible go play MGS2 on it. You need a R2 and L2 in MGS games. MGS sells more in japan point blank.
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#25 Tnasty11
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because sony/konami are doing a MGS movie
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#26 Hitamaru-homia
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Because MGS games for non-sony platforms have always sold really badly...osirisomeomi

how a bout only like 15K sold for Xbox version OF MGS2 but PS2 version selling 8 million... plus anyone played MGS2 on Xbox knows how hard it is to play. The Gameboy colour Metal Gear Game sold,so did Metal Gear one and Metal Gear 2,Famicom(Nintendo entertainment system) and MSX(Home Pc xD). The Gamecube remake sold!!! cant think of anything else xD

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#27 akif22
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they're spending so much on developing this that they'll probably have to, unless sales are amazing, which i don't expect on the PS3 the way it's going

plus, with all these rumours about a 360 port, i expect quite a few gamers (inc me) to wait and see if it does get ported, rather than getting it at launch

if after a few years it's still not coming, i'll just get a cheap PS3 for it, when it'll hopefully have a few other great games like GOW3 to justify it

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#28 hiryu3
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/port-update/mgs4-still-being-built-on-ps3-hardware-261471.php?cpage=2
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#29 Funkyhamster
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Attention all "buh buh buh Kojima!" protesters (I don't know if there are any in this thread, but I'm assuming): Any sway Kojima has over Konami probably won't influence them if MGS4 needs to go multiplat to make enough money.
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#30 p4ddym
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MGS has never been on Xbox. Hopefully mgs4 will be as good as MGS2. Which was amazin:o
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#31 -PS360FTW-
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because the ps3 isnt a failure....

ah game of the year 08 ps3 exlusive8)

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#32 -PS360FTW-
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they're spending so much on developing this that they'll probably have to, unless sales are amazing, which i don't expect on the PS3 the way it's going

plus, with all these rumours about a 360 port, i expect quite a few gamers (inc me) to wait and see if it does get ported, rather than getting it at launch

if after a few years it's still not coming, i'll just get a cheap PS3 for it, when it'll hopefully have a few other great games like GOW3 to justify it

akif22

the rumours came to an end when the main guy said

NO 360 VERSION

so yea...

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#33 bluegerbil
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They will probably make a substance version for 360 in a year or 2. I dont really even care if it comes or not becuase it will come eventually.
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#34 turgore
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Maybe they don't like M$ or the do not want to remake the game for the 360.adastos

because theyre american ?

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#35 Funkyhamster
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MGS has never been on Xbox. Hopefully mgs4 will be as good as MGS2. Which was amazin:op4ddym

MGS2 was on the Xbox...

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#36 Mordred19
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of course, Konami only has to snap their fingers and "poof"! A 360 version of MGS4! :D Then they start rolling in the downpour of money that will occur immediatly! :D Because we all know that's how the world works!

Isn't it great, simplifying complex issues into first-grade math?

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#37 istreakforfood
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:| Go bow down and kiss Kojima's feet, maybe he'll listenSwift_Boss_A

i hope he has toe jams and athletes foot. thats like youtube material right there.

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#38 mercenar3
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

because Konami and Sony have already signed an exclusivity agreement.

Vis-a-Vis

Thats a lie.

Konami could very well port it to the 360, Sony wouldnt be too happy about that though.

For now MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3 and it's gonna stay that way until Konami says otherwise.

in a nutshell

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#39 stereointegrity
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first off...mgs in the states is just as big as mgs in japan..now if u make it for the 360 who in japan would buy it...

the 100,000 360 owners over there..no...

secondly lemmings bash this game on how ugly it looks and how its nothing different then mgs3 and now u want this game?

why why why why why?

really i doubt it will become multi plat any time soon..maybe a year or two later they will decide to port it..but i just dont see it happening..even the japanese will buy a ps3 just to get this game

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#40 insomnia37
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii
  • Software sales are a joke
  • Konami is a business and as such wants to make money
  • The 360 has comparable specifications to the PS3
  • MGS is a title that primarilty appeals to western consumers (territories where the 360 is more successful)

the_h_bomb

Why is it that lemmings are the only ones that still think its coming to the crapbox, unless someone from Konami says its being ported its still exclusive.

To add to ur points:

- the PS3 is at 6 million sales worldwide in one year, thats almost half of the xbox180. This is also with a high price tag, two other competitors and none of Sony's biggest games have been released yet.

- there is a consol that is a failure and thats the 360, i guess lemmings forgot that ms predicted that they would sell 10 million consols by the time the wii and the PS3 were released, it didn't LOL

-the 360's biggest franchise has been released and sales of the 360 barely went up. When Sony's biggest games come out what makes you think that the sales will go down, the only sales that went down is the 360.

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#41 OmegaTau
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man i had no idea that ps3 been out for 4 years already.
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#42 p4ddym
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[QUOTE="p4ddym"]MGS has never been on Xbox. Hopefully mgs4 will be as good as MGS2. Which was amazin:oFunkyhamster

MGS2 was on the Xbox...

True

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#43 MrGrimFandango
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Being paid by Sony, why the hell else would such a stupid/smart decision be made? Its business, not favorites.
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#44 Serraph105
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii
  • Software sales are a joke
  • Konami is a business and as such wants to make money
  • The 360 has comparable specifications to the PS3
  • MGS is a title that primarilty appeals to western consumers (territories where the 360 is more successful)

the_h_bomb

i really do like that last point cause its very true

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#47 --ProtoMan--
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Maybe Sony obtained exclusivity by paying them off?
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#48 Sony_92
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Seriously, i dont understand why people say this a bad idea (or even inconceivable)

  • The PS3 is the biggest failure of our time and is trailing behind the 360/Wii
  • Software sales are a joke
  • Konami is a business and as such wants to make money
  • The 360 has comparable specifications to the PS3
  • MGS is a title that primarilty appeals to western consumers (territories where the 360 is more successful)

the_h_bomb

What starts in Sony, ends in Sony

MGS1 is what made the whole series popular on PS1

MGS4 will end its legacy on the PS3

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#49 wooooode
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Ok well the PS3 is not truely a failure it is still selling about the same as the 360 did in the same amount of time and the PS3 has 2 competitors unlike the 360 so in reality it is far beyound what the 360 has ever done in sales without a true killer app. But it would boost sale dramaticaly for the game. I guess we will see when it comes out wether or not it could be even done on the 360 at this time.
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#50 dipper145
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They wont make a 360 version because sony is paying them enough money that they will make a profit even if they only sell 1 game. If this isnt true then they must be worried because of the attach rate for mgs3 and the ps2. They might not make a profit if sony doesnt pay them enough