Why wouldnt Microsoft just make more Kinects to meet demand?

It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

You could always not buy it until it has something worthwhile... in which case you may never have to waste the money.

You could always not buy it until it has something worthwhile... in which case you may never have to waste the money.

Pug-Nasty

It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

15strong

It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

15strong

THIS. so funny that it works. MS intentionally undersupplies products and so you get the 'limited stock' all over the place. and people who normally are on the fence or planning to get it someday will now pre-order the thing because of the dreaded 'limited stock' crap that they post on store shelves.

im pretty sure they've already made a ton of Kinect units. they just havent shipped them to the suppliers. they will definitely flood the market this holiday. so much for 'limited stock'.

EDIT: actually, Wii was NOT this kind of model. they advertised alot of Wii, showed so much, and developed games internally because third-party devs did not believe in the Wii's potential. and people seemed to have bought it. unlike Kinect, there was much, much more curiosity and anticipation for the Wii. its demand was really high that they actually went out of stock because Nintendo did not anticipate this kind of reaction.

on the other hand, MS even went as far as to have Oprah shove the Kinect in her audience's throats. big difference.

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It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

rawr89

THIS. so funny that it works. MS intentionally undersupplies products and so you get the 'limited stock' all over the place. and people who normally are on the fence or planning to get it someday will now pre-order the thing because of the dreaded 'limited stock' crap that they post on store shelves.

im pretty sure they've already made a ton of Kinect units. they just havent shipped them to the suppliers. they will definitely flood the market this holiday. so much for 'limited stock'.

EDIT: actually, Wii was NOT this kind of model. they advertised alot of Wii, showed so much, and developed games internally because third-party devs did not believe in the Wii's potential. and people seemed to have bought it. unlike Kinect, there was much, much more curiosity and anticipation for the Wii. its demand was really high that they actually went out of stock because Nintendo did not anticipate this kind of reaction.

on the other hand, MS even went as far as to have Oprah shove the Kinect in her audience's throats. big difference.

Do you have any proof to back this up? EDIT: and I'm not talking about Oprah...

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[QUOTE="15strong"]

It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

KevinnButlerNPK

THIS. so funny that it works. MS intentionally undersupplies products and so you get the 'limited stock' all over the place. and people who normally are on the fence or planning to get it someday will now pre-order the thing because of the dreaded 'limited stock' crap that they post on store shelves.

im pretty sure they've already made a ton of Kinect units. they just havent shipped them to the suppliers. they will definitely flood the market this holiday. so much for 'limited stock'.

EDIT: actually, Wii was NOT this kind of model. they advertised alot of Wii, showed so much, and developed games internally because third-party devs did not believe in the Wii's potential. and people seemed to have bought it. unlike Kinect, there was much, much more curiosity and anticipation for the Wii. its demand was really high that they actually went out of stock because Nintendo did not anticipate this kind of reaction.

on the other hand, MS even went as far as to have Oprah shove the Kinect in her audience's throats. big difference.

Do you have any proof to back this up? EDIT: and I'm not talking about Oprah...

it's first-year Economics. there's no need for proof whatsoever because you won't find evidence for this. it's a repeated practice. do you really think the pre-orders of Kinect were as high as 2 million units? the pre-order range was probably in the hundred thousands, and MS is telling me that it's already out of stock? oh please.

It is absolutely impossible to get Kinect in the States, Im currently on craigslist looking at someone posting this Kinect for 185 and im thinking about calling. I called about 8 gamestops, 8 targets, you name it, nowhere to be found. IS this intentional by Microsoft to get people to buy the bundles? It seems odd to me that this item is absolutely impossible to buy at retail price.Ultratechfan

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

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[QUOTE="rawr89"]

THIS. so funny that it works. MS intentionally undersupplies products and so you get the 'limited stock' all over the place. and people who normally are on the fence or planning to get it someday will now pre-order the thing because of the dreaded 'limited stock' crap that they post on store shelves.

im pretty sure they've already made a ton of Kinect units. they just havent shipped them to the suppliers. they will definitely flood the market this holiday. so much for 'limited stock'.

EDIT: actually, Wii was NOT this kind of model. they advertised alot of Wii, showed so much, and developed games internally because third-party devs did not believe in the Wii's potential. and people seemed to have bought it. unlike Kinect, there was much, much more curiosity and anticipation for the Wii. its demand was really high that they actually went out of stock because Nintendo did not anticipate this kind of reaction.

on the other hand, MS even went as far as to have Oprah shove the Kinect in her audience's throats. big difference.

rawr89

Do you have any proof to back this up? EDIT: and I'm not talking about Oprah...

it's first-year Economics. there's no need for proof whatsoever because you won't find evidence for this. it's a repeated practice. do you really think the pre-orders of Kinect were as high as 2 million units? the pre-order range was probably in the hundred thousands, and MS is telling me that it's already out of stock? oh please.

I think Kinect is at the point now where it is popular and well-known enough to be on short supply because demand genuinely is outstripping supply. Microsoft did once predict only 3 million units would sell over the holidays, so it wouldn't shock me if they're having a hard time keeping them in stock.

Despite all that, I do think Kinect's success will be very short-term. I am not convinced it will generate enough compelling content over the next year or two to sustain the interest of either casual or hardcore audiences.

[QUOTE="Ultratechfan"]It is absolutely impossible to get Kinect in the States, Im currently on craigslist looking at someone posting this Kinect for 185 and im thinking about calling. I called about 8 gamestops, 8 targets, you name it, nowhere to be found. IS this intentional by Microsoft to get people to buy the bundles? It seems odd to me that this item is absolutely impossible to buy at retail price.Dire_Weasel

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

[QUOTE="Ultratechfan"]It is absolutely impossible to get Kinect in the States, Im currently on craigslist looking at someone posting this Kinect for 185 and im thinking about calling. I called about 8 gamestops, 8 targets, you name it, nowhere to be found. IS this intentional by Microsoft to get people to buy the bundles? It seems odd to me that this item is absolutely impossible to buy at retail price.Dire_Weasel

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

The stores in my neck of the woods seem to have plenty as well. Maybe it is a regional shortage?

If you're listening to the simple feeble minds who think that creating a shortage is the only way to compete, and that MS is doing this on purpose, I challenge all impudent simpletons to stick a metal rod in their head, hopefully they can find the pea sized brain of theirs, and stand outside a lightning storm to hopefully charge those neurons nested together in what most people call a brain.

Done it? Yeah? Good.

Now simply put, the reason there isn't enough is because when you make a product, it doesn't just happen overnight. Factories can push only so many of these tools out as so many times. Parts need to be in storage for the company to use said parts, people need to make sure the products are tested and pass QA, and then there are the people working in said factories who work for certain hours before going hom. In laymans terms, the companies can only make so many and ship so many in a single day. Don't worry, you'll get your kinect, just be vigilant and patient. :)

They thought the demand would be satisfied with 3 million initially. Then they upped their supply to 5 million but even so the demand seems to have been underestimated by MS. Same thing happened with 360 although that was even more supply constrained. Considering the time (Holidays) it's no wonder the thing will sell out.

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It is absolutely impossible to get Kinect in the States, Im currently on craigslist looking at someone posting this Kinect for 185 and im thinking about calling. I called about 8 gamestops, 8 targets, you name it, nowhere to be found. IS this intentional by Microsoft to get people to buy the bundles? It seems odd to me that this item is absolutely impossible to buy at retail price.Ultratechfan

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

theres no demand. m$ is just making a few of them so it would look like kinect is running out of stock but its because there were only a few kinects out to begin with in my honest opinion imho

If you really want one just get Move. You get a EyeToy with a bunch of games already out and Move for 100 bucks.Keiji993

Wait...So you are suggesting that he spends more money on something else....Instead of something he clearly wants....Sorry but the move just does not compare to the Kinect.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]If you really want one just get Move. You get a EyeToy with a bunch of games already out and Move for 100 bucks.ImportBMWRacer

Wait...So you are suggesting that he spends more money on something else....Instead of something he clearly wants....Sorry but the move just does not compare to the Kinect.

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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]If you really want one just get Move. You get a EyeToy with a bunch of games already out and Move for 100 bucks.Keiji993

Wait...So you are suggesting that he spends more money on something else....Instead of something he clearly wants....Sorry but the move just does not compare to the Kinect.

Easily kinect is better than Move. He clearly said that he wanted one in his man cave...So maybe next time instead of making a fool out of yourself, you follow your own advice.

They want the publicity of being sold out.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Wait...So you are suggesting that he spends more money on something else....Instead of something he clearly wants....Sorry but the move just does not compare to the Kinect.

ImportBMWRacer

Easily kinect is better than Move. He clearly said that he wanted one in his man cave...So maybe next time instead of making a fool out of yourself, you follow your own advice.

They want the publicity of being sold out.

XboximusPrime

I've actually had no problem seeing Kinects in stores here in Daytona. Maybe it's just a Florida thing. :P

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[QUOTE="Keiji993"] If you actually read he has kinect in his house and are u joking? Ur saying kinect is better?Keiji993

Easily kinect is better than Move. He clearly said that he wanted one in his man cave...So maybe next time instead of making a fool out of yourself, you follow your own advice.

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[QUOTE="Keiji993"] If you actually read he has kinect in his house and are u joking? Ur saying kinect is better?Keiji993

Easily kinect is better than Move. He clearly said that he wanted one in his man cave...So maybe next time instead of making a fool out of yourself, you follow your own advice.

Kinect has given us a glimpse into the future of Gaming, though as of right now there is not much for Kinect.

I own both, and would LOOOVE to swap pictures with you. I will post a picture of my GS Tag playing the Kinect/Move, though I will only do so once YOU have done it. Though I would be more than willing to place money that you don't...Because you can't.

Just because the Kinect is better than Move does not mean Move is bad...Its just a gimmicky way to play games....I am not a big fan of Wii, though I did enjoy Wii Sports. You have no idea how well most Kinect games play, and how intuitive Kinect is....It just so seamless with everything it does...The Move is an Obvious Wii Clone...But who can blame Sony? Look at how well the Wii has done! The Kinect like I said, is a glimpse into the future of gaming.

So when shall we see those pics?

[QUOTE="Ultratechfan"]It is absolutely impossible to get Kinect in the States, Im currently on craigslist looking at someone posting this Kinect for 185 and im thinking about calling. I called about 8 gamestops, 8 targets, you name it, nowhere to be found. IS this intentional by Microsoft to get people to buy the bundles? It seems odd to me that this item is absolutely impossible to buy at retail price.Dire_Weasel

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

well thats good for you but im not lying, and whats with the anger? Im asking why wouldnt they just have these kinect sensors out all over the place so it sells to meet demand, right now nobody can find it....

Yea people thought i was lying when i said that i still cant find the stand alone kinect anywhere to purchase and this was about 2 weeks ago. Those things are really selling only the kinect bundles are being sold but i just need the stand alone.bigboss5ak

im buying it for 185 on craigslist, yet people think im making it up, oh well, ill probably sell back kinect adventures so it wont but that much more if i purchased it retail.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

Absolutely false. Again, I was just in Target, they still have shelves full of them... just like every other big box store in the Chicago area.

Nice try, though. Also, why the heck would you want one? Got a big itch to play Joyride, or something?

[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"][QUOTE="kenmid"] nice try, I'm not saying that your lying, but I just did a stock check at local Chicago stores, and they're all sold out. I used the zip code 60607http://www.target.com/gp/store-info/find-target-store.html?asin=B002BSA298

themyth01

Last Sunday, specifically, there were at least a dozen Kinects at the Target on Elston and Logan Square. Target.com does indeed show them as being out of stock now but I wasn't that hung over.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"] Hmmm, Seems someone has been caught lying....again. Good Job Ken!Dire_Weasel

Last Sunday, specifically, there were at least a dozen Kinects at the Target on Elston and Logan Square. Target.com does indeed show them as being out of stock now but I wasn't that hung over.

Wow just wow....:roll:

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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Indeed, can't understand why do that though, it's not like it'll warp reality to match their wishes. ImportBMWRacer

Last Sunday, specifically, there were at least a dozen Kinects at the Target on Elston and Logan Square. Target.com does indeed show them as being out of stock now but I wasn't that hung over.

Wow just wow....:roll:

Yes, wow. Target sells out of something in a couple of day. Impossible, I know. Carry on, then.

impossible? walmart is full and kmart.. and every other stor in my Area.. what are you talking about?VideoGameGuy

what state are you in? Im gonna go out and try Walmart right now, I will report back on my findings, either way im getting it tomorrow as I have a deal for it for 185 on craigslist, spoke to the guy..... ill let you know how it turns out.

saved myself a trip, called and ALL OUT....if you like the number i can give it to you thanks.

It's all about supply and demand. It is a business model that worked great for the wii. If it is hard to get and find one, more people hear about it, thus making them think it is popular and want to get one too.

15strong

They thought the demand would be satisfied with 3 million initially. Then they upped their supply to 5 million but even so the demand seems to have been underestimated by MS. Same thing happened with 360 although that was even more supply constrained. Considering the time (Holidays) it's no wonder the thing will sell out.

themyth01

thanks i guess that makes sense, I just dont understand why not just make 7 million and sell it over time instead of lowballing the figure... I wish I was making this up as well...

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They thought the demand would be satisfied with 3 million initially. Then they upped their supply to 5 million but even so the demand seems to have been underestimated by MS. Same thing happened with 360 although that was even more supply constrained. Considering the time (Holidays) it's no wonder the thing will sell out.

Ultratechfan

thanks i guess that makes sense, I just dont understand why not just make 7 million and sell it over time instead of lowballing the figure... I wish I was making this up as well...

[QUOTE="Ultratechfan"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

They thought the demand would be satisfied with 3 million initially. Then they upped their supply to 5 million but even so the demand seems to have been underestimated by MS. Same thing happened with 360 although that was even more supply constrained. Considering the time (Holidays) it's no wonder the thing will sell out.

JohnF111

thanks i guess that makes sense, I just dont understand why not just make 7 million and sell it over time instead of lowballing the figure... I wish I was making this up as well...

its possible but at this time I feel like im gonna get shut out and that would be one less sale....bottomline is if they had a ton of units out there it would sell a ton nontheless.....

Think outside of SW nonsense sometimes.

You could always not buy it until it has something worthwhile... in which case you may never have to waste the money.

Pug-Nasty